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Shaktipat
Posted - 2007.01.20 04:27:00 - [1]
 

What can you take out with this a solo ishkur?

Can you take on most t1 ships (as long as they are not specif-fiited to kill you, like a moa with webs and small rails or a BS loades with rockets).

what can you solo against in a Ishkur?

50freefly
Caldari
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.01.20 04:31:00 - [2]
 

Not a rupture or many other things with a web, sadly. But some cruisers like a caracal are easy kills.

435fdrtert
Posted - 2007.01.21 22:08:00 - [3]
 

got a 0.0 where ratters dont tank em.
take ur load of em drones
go kill :) Ive killed many

just if u get nosfed, warp off :op

DiuxDium
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.01.21 22:13:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: 435fdrtert
got a 0.0 where ratters dont tank em.
take ur load of em drones
go kill :) Ive killed many

just if u get nosfed, warp off :op


em drones are horrible.

Nastratu
Minmatar
Serefon Creatin
Posted - 2007.01.21 23:19:00 - [5]
 

I tested out an Ishkur on a friend's Raven armed with torps and heavy neuts and was able to break his tank eventually.

I would say anything up to a battleship, inties, other afs, of course anything not set up well. This is highly setup dependent. But usually the bigger the ship, the longer it will take to break its tank, the more likely it will call for reinforcements.

Large drones don't hit at all, medium ones do a bit better, but still not enough damage. Even with a web. Light T2 drones as well as light guns mean death most usually.

You do need to have some very good drone and tanking skills. The better, the bigger ship you can take on.

DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.01.22 00:59:00 - [6]
 

the thing is your ishkur can't take on 1 t1 cruiser of any kind and at the same time can take on a bs solo. all depends on setup. most low sec npc'ers have setups that make me wanna cry so it's surprising what u can take on. it all comes down to what drones they have, if they have a web, any nos or neuts, that kinda thing. ships like apocs are definately possible as they probably won't hit you even if u are webbed.

The great things about the ishkur is you can shoot ur targets while ur 5 light t2 drones take out ur victims drones taking the fire off u.

many t1 cruisers pvp setup will kill u, rupture and thorax especially but 90% of the ones u find will die before even targetted u Very Happy

DE



Quilan Ziller
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.01.22 04:26:00 - [7]
 

Ishkur is an awesome "wtf?" frig.
It can usually take almost anything (other AF, cruisers, even battleships)... As long as your opponent's setup is not a very, very specific "anti-Ishkur" setup.
Things that will definitely hurt you in an Ishkur are small T2 drones, small blasters or autocannons, standard missiles or rockets, and (duh) smartbombs. If the ship you are fighting has none of these, you will have very good chances!
Properly setup Ishkur is very resistant to nos or web, and deals enough damage to break most tanks - in time.
I won't divulge the exact setups I use, but I always fit either 2 or 3 small Knave Nos (e5 and above use too much grid). I've killed Thoraxes, Vexors with small T2 drones, Domis, a Mega, and numerous destroyers and frigs.
The closest battle I had so far was with a Thorax setup in the following manner:
4 medium nos, small neutron blaster, 10MN AB, web, scram, damage control, 2 thermic hardeners, 800 mm plate, SAR II, 10x Hobgoblin IIs. It was setup specifically against me.
First time I got the guy to 1/2 hull, he warped out (I was too nossed to get a point on him in time).
Second time I got a point on, and he popped.YARRRR!!

Count Notfarout2
Posted - 2007.01.22 07:26:00 - [8]
 

Quote:
...10x Hobgoblin IIs


A typo error, or just a nice story?

Dr Fighter
Posted - 2007.01.22 07:36:00 - [9]
 

3x electron blasters and small nos
AB II, web and scram
small rep, 200mm plate, energized reactive.

all t2

Vaslav Tchitcherine
The White Visitation
Posted - 2007.01.22 09:19:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Count Notfarout2
Quote:
...10x Hobgoblin IIs
A typo error, or just a nice story?
Thorax can happily fit 10 light drones.

Fondas
Gallente
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.01.22 12:21:00 - [11]
 

Yeap, Thorax`s drone bay = 50 m3 / 5 m3 = 10 light drones WinkLaughing

Kazuki Fuse
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
Posted - 2007.01.22 19:11:00 - [12]
 

I would recommend fitting a MWD to any solo ishkur setup. It's always nice to be able to get out of gate camps or chase down inties.

Deathbarrage
Posted - 2007.01.22 19:17:00 - [13]
 

2x ion, 2x small nos
AB, web, scram
SAR II, DCU II, 200mm rolled tungsten

Christopher Dalran
Gallente
Deadly Alliance
Posted - 2007.01.22 19:17:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: DiuxDium
Originally by: 435fdrtert
got a 0.0 where ratters dont tank em.
take ur load of em drones
go kill :) Ive killed many

just if u get nosfed, warp off :op


em drones are horrible.


EM drones are actually godsend when you find a Ratting raven without any EM hardners because the rats do all therm/kinetic.

Countess NotFarOut2
Posted - 2007.01.24 12:11:00 - [15]
 

Quote:
Thorax can happily fit 10 light drones.


Yep, and since you can fly only 5... I had the impression you suggested flyinh all 10 of them.

Liam Fremen
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.01.24 12:33:00 - [16]
 


Is wonderful alone :)

Plate+tank + drone navigation + drone link augm.

Is the nightmare of any frig sized ship with drones (all warriors for extreme speed or hobgoblin)

3x blasters for wipe out cruisers :)

it rox

Melicien Tetro
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.01.24 13:10:00 - [17]
 

In my ishkur, I'll fight anything smaller than a battleship, depending on the age of the character.
Any frig or destroyer, easy. It's a really versatile ship, and rail setups are great.


 

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