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DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.01.11 00:23:00 - [31]
 

See this post, read down to my responses
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=457922


newtronic, and his alt
lil dirtbeard

DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.01.11 00:53:00 - [32]
 

Also you should check in with the corp CEO to make sure they are indeed corp thieves so people don't blacklist those who someone has a vendetta against, or just to be a @$#.

DeckardIRL
The Randoms
Posted - 2007.01.11 14:00:00 - [33]
 

That thread is locked. People have not just been added to this list. As you will see if you read the entire thread and the list at the top. Booster Terrick is a player of very high regard and is not bringing rl into the game. Its the people who are thieves that are complaining about being called thieving scum or worse cause "its a game".

Deck

Booster Terrick
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.01.12 03:19:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Booster Terrick on 12/01/2007 03:19:34
Edited by: Booster Terrick on 12/01/2007 03:16:12
Quote:


I see you fell foul to corp theft, Bitter much ? Very Happy

lol, Why would we care if people know ? I stole from a corp... It's clearly written in my Bio ingame i'm a corp theif.

Oh Noes ? .... Like many have said allready. No one cares Rolling Eyes

Alliaanna



Actually I'm not bitter at all, but your cavalier attitude about it shows your level of maturity. I realize it's a game, but while your principles stop at the door to EVE, mine don't.

I treat people the same way in this game that I do in RL, so save the pointless jabbing and trying to "get my goat".

CCP does too little to punish criminals as it is, and to the contrary, creates an environment where they thrive. For the "law abiding citizens" in EVE who generally mind their own business, there is little recourse to be had against thieves, scammers and gankers who "have fun" at my expense...YARRRR!!

What this game needs is an overhaul in its treatment of the criminal element, making it a bit more realistic...so far it's a pathetic joke. CCP does a very good job at replicating a dynamic economy, now all it needs to do is create an environment that doesn't leave all but vindictive asshats "out in the cold" when it comes to a form of justice.

Corp theft would be very difficult to write code for, but I think a redesign of the current bounty system (let's have CONCORD assign bounties based on notoriety, instead of players footing the bill?) and docking fees imposed on negative sec ratings would do for starters.

For now, if I know of a corp theif, I'm going to tell people ingame or out of it. If you're juvenile enough to try to drag my ingame reputation through the sewer, then so be it. People that know me will tell you otherwise.Very Happy

Regards,
Booster.


Cherry Venture
Gallente
Posted - 2007.01.12 04:02:00 - [35]
 

A couple fo thoughts for the conversation:

1. People do care. Don't judge opinions on this very small section of the Eve community that are loud in the Crime and Punishment forum... Loud people often make the mistake of believing that because they only hear the echo of their empty voices in their vacuous heads that those voices are the opinions of the masses...

2. Like anything, the negative folk will abuse a website of this nature if it comes to exist. It is part of the 'gremlin' mentality that many corp thieves have. There would have to be a system of assessing the validity of a claim. This process should, if possible, not include the opportunity for flame wars. :) Perhaps something simple as only letting corp CEO's make new entries using an IGB and each entry checked to see if the corp is legit.

3. Corp thieves are often very crafty. Blaming the victim for the crime is both not very helpful and also not very accurate. Here is a paralell. A person gets drunk and drives the car down the road. They are so drunk they drive up on the footpath and kill a person walking there. Should the person be blamed for not protecting themselves sufficiently from the chance of drunk drivers killing them? I mean walking on a footpath only feet from a busy road...what do you expect. Sooner or later someone was going to kill that person...

Not to mention, even if the corp is open and trusting with it's new corp members, it is not the act of a criminal. Stealing from them is, even if there is no mechanism within Eve to enforce it. Simple.

4.

Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.01.12 04:27:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Eldwinn on 12/01/2007 04:25:21
Originally by: Mr Jay
Originally by: FooB2
Originally by: Leviathan9
Edited by: Leviathan9 on 08/01/2007 17:48:43
Aye, Alliaana Dallaii aka Typherin Laidai, stole from RHN... bastard.

.


AND HAS THEREFORE STOLEN HIS/HER WAY INTO MY HEART.


way to go on that one.


Signed Very Happy


Awww <3


Monde
Gallente
TOG Empire
Posted - 2007.01.12 05:19:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Monde on 12/01/2007 05:15:51
I care.

If you join a corp to play with people then why steal from them? I am a pirate also doesn't cut it as you can also throw "Honour amoungst Thieves" back. What it comes down to is in game or out of game stealing is stealing. Being a pirate / or a dishonest sort is fine. But treating others with respect is what is required and IMHO it is clever or cool to steal from a Corp or friends and it is not a laughing matter.

But hey who I am to complain and no I am not a Carebear.

Zardenim
Posted - 2007.01.12 05:29:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Booster Terrick
Actually I'm not bitter at all, but your cavalier attitude about it shows your level of maturity. I realize it's a game, but while your principles stop at the door to EVE, mine don't.

I treat people the same way in this game that I do in RL, so save the pointless jabbing and trying to "get my goat".

[snip]




While this is respectable you have to realize that it is indeed a game and no one is required in the least to behave with any shred of decency or morality. If this was a rl circumstance then yes I'd agree with you that it's not exactly the best deed to be proud of but this is all EVE.

As for the thread itself... you've got the idea, but its not large enough to be comprehensive. The people you have listed are big-time thieves and any large corp would be easily able to spot them, while the likelyhood of a small corp recieving one of them is slim due to their numbers and size (gotta be curious when out of the blue some many-month old player with loads of ISK wants to join your corp). Plus there's litle money for them in small corps.

So... meh. GL and hope this goes somewhere but for now... just meh.

xh'duality
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.01.12 08:11:00 - [39]
 

OMFG you all are noob's. Deck started a thread about listing all corp thief's. Not yet a nother spam threat. Start growing up and start listing. If you dont have a name then just shut up.

Corp thief:
Brudak
he stole about 300-400 mill.

Vali Spoon
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.01.12 11:33:00 - [40]
 

Excellent thread, corp thieves need to be taken care of, and marked IG for everyone to see, a star on their portrait for exemple.

K, here's my contribution:
CorpTHIEF: DeckardIRL
Crime: stole 2B worth of T2/faction stuff in our hangar after earning our trust, then hacked our website and replaced the hompage with a picture of what we think to be him IRL killing a puppy and the writing "YARRR" in caps above DeckardIRL

DeckardIRL
The Randoms
Posted - 2007.01.12 12:35:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: DeckardIRL on 12/01/2007 12:40:37
Edited by: DeckardIRL on 12/01/2007 12:34:57
Originally by: Zardenim

As for the thread itself... you've got the idea, but its not large enough to be comprehensive. The people you have listed are big-time thieves and any large corp would be easily able to spot them



Thanks Zardenim and I agree its not large enough and as the original post says its small but its a start and its growing. It will take time but at least its a start and this thread contains references from players detailing the crimes. These things are then able to be verified. Yes the big names are there but remember not everyone (as much as the scum would like) knows them so they do need to be listed. The ones you don't or would never hear about are now starting to appear and that is the purpose. Hopefully in the next few weeks I will get the time to be able to make this into an website.

Deck

R0ME0
Posted - 2007.01.12 14:49:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: R0ME0 on 12/01/2007 14:46:13

YAHHHH I AM A CORP THIEF SO WHAT, LIST MY NAME WHAT WILL THAT DO, I WILL JUST USE ONE OF MY OTHER XX TOON NAMES THAT I HAVE PURCHASED FROM THE SPOILS. Razz

DONT FORGET TO CHECK MY BLOG NOW :)




PS. WHO SAYS CRIME DOESNT PAY :).

Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente
the undivided
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2007.01.12 14:53:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: R0ME0
Edited by: R0ME0 on 12/01/2007 14:46:13

YAHHHH I AM A CORP THIEF SO WHAT, LIST MY NAME WHAT WILL THAT DO, I WILL JUST USE ONE OF MY OTHER XX TOON NAMES THAT I HAVE PURCHASED FROM THE SPOILS. Razz

DONT FORGET TO CHECK MY BLOG NOW :)




PS. WHO SAYS CRIME DOESNT PAY :).


If I agree to be your biggest fan will you donate 1billion isk into my account so that I can buy some cool mods for a carrier and grief people YARRRR!!

I will have your man babies,

Alliaanna

Thats right, I'm not too proud to beg YARRRR!!ugh

Priestess Ayumi
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2007.01.12 16:09:00 - [44]
 

Ship Monger.

was CEO of Rock Rangers, got investors to invest hundrends of Millions on ISK. Decided to claim his account was 'hacked' by another member, and drained the corp wallet.

Got more ISK from investors, then decided to get tired of being stolen from and left the corporation.

Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.01.12 18:19:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: R0ME0
Edited by: R0ME0 on 12/01/2007 14:46:13

YAHHHH I AM A CORP THIEF SO WHAT, LIST MY NAME WHAT WILL THAT DO, I WILL JUST USE ONE OF MY OTHER XX TOON NAMES THAT I HAVE PURCHASED FROM THE SPOILS. Razz

DONT FORGET TO CHECK MY BLOG NOW :)




PS. WHO SAYS CRIME DOESNT PAY :).


Was.. was this a post for the visually impaired?


Felinuszzz
Caldari
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2007.01.12 23:48:00 - [46]
 

This topic is kinda funny?




Hey Laidai, whats shakin? Smile

DeckardIRL
The Randoms
Posted - 2007.01.15 10:09:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii

If I agree to be your biggest fan will you donate 1billion isk into my account so that I can buy some cool mods for a carrier and grief people YARRRR!!

Alliaanna

Thats right, I'm not too proud to beg YARRRR!!ugh


Saddest post I have ever seen on the forums... ever... I did say ever didn't I?

Deck

PS R0me0's post hurt my eyes also....

Captain Hudson
Caldari
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2007.01.15 10:18:00 - [48]
 

this thread is good, shame all the flamers have ruined it.

Kadenlee
Posted - 2007.01.15 10:34:00 - [49]
 

pineapple muffinman
alt is eleme

Victor Vision
Amarr
Central Intelligence Service
Posted - 2007.01.15 15:03:00 - [50]
 

Very useful thread, thanks for posting it.

DeckardIRL, would be great if you could update your list with the newest additions.

DeckardIRL
The Randoms
Posted - 2007.01.15 16:53:00 - [51]
 

The list is continually updated. Please check the last edit date as that is the only 1 am keeping on the post for clarity. First post 8/1/07- current edit 15/1/07.

Thanks

Deck

DeckardIRL
The Randoms
Posted - 2007.01.18 09:00:00 - [52]
 

List continues to grow.

Deck

Neon Genesis
GoonFleet
Posted - 2007.01.18 12:27:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Neon Genesis on 18/01/2007 12:23:16
Originally by: Booster Terrick
Edited by: Booster Terrick on 12/01/2007 03:19:34
Edited by: Booster Terrick on 12/01/2007 03:16:12
Quote:


I see you fell foul to corp theft, Bitter much ? Very Happy

lol, Why would we care if people know ? I stole from a corp... It's clearly written in my Bio ingame i'm a corp theif.

Oh Noes ? .... Like many have said allready. No one cares Rolling Eyes

Alliaanna



Actually I'm not bitter at all, but your cavalier attitude about it shows your level of maturity. I realize it's a game, but while your principles stop at the door to EVE, mine don't.

I treat people the same way in this game that I do in RL, so save the pointless jabbing and trying to "get my goat".

CCP does too little to punish criminals as it is, and to the contrary, creates an environment where they thrive. For the "law abiding citizens" in EVE who generally mind their own business, there is little recourse to be had against thieves, scammers and gankers who "have fun" at my expense...YARRRR!!

What this game needs is an overhaul in its treatment of the criminal element, making it a bit more realistic...so far it's a pathetic joke. CCP does a very good job at replicating a dynamic economy, now all it needs to do is create an environment that doesn't leave all but vindictive asshats "out in the cold" when it comes to a form of justice.

Corp theft would be very difficult to write code for, but I think a redesign of the current bounty system (let's have CONCORD assign bounties based on notoriety, instead of players footing the bill?) and docking fees imposed on negative sec ratings would do for starters.

For now, if I know of a corp theif, I'm going to tell people ingame or out of it. If you're juvenile enough to try to drag my ingame reputation through the sewer, then so be it. People that know me will tell you otherwise.Very Happy

Regards,
Booster.




I hate to break it to you, but most of the content of the game can be described as 'Theivery and murder online'.

Anastasia Korenchkin
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.01.18 14:49:00 - [54]
 

Mjukisdjur - stole numerous battleships from hirr POS during wartime.

Still owes me 50mil too Mad

ItommoI
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.01.18 18:07:00 - [55]
 

Shockedyeah that fecker aragog stole the warp core stabilizer bpo from our guild...its rank 60....your not....guttedCool

Korbin Dallas
Caldari
Bunny Killers Inc
Posted - 2007.01.19 02:58:00 - [56]
 

if your trying to keep a list of scammers/thieves in the eyes of the public have you ever thought of trying to sell the list. all you have to do is post a link in the sells forum. Where as you offer to sell the list for a measly 100isk or so. With the posting rules you would be allowed to bump your thread daily, foever keeping it in the limelight so to speak.

Just a thought.

kublai
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2007.01.19 03:00:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Korbin Dallas
if your trying to keep a list of scammers/thieves in the eyes of the public have you ever thought of trying to sell the list. all you have to do is post a link in the sells forum. Where as you offer to sell the list for a measly 100isk or so. With the posting rules you would be allowed to bump your thread daily, foever keeping it in the limelight so to speak.

Just a thought.


His hoping to get his very own sticky, it's an e-peen thing

mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.01.19 07:13:00 - [58]
 

eve-search has them all recorded, just type in the name and youll get a complete forum history on that person. nice, huh

Rex Everything
Brotherhood of Eternal Love
Posted - 2007.01.19 13:19:00 - [59]
 

I would prefer to channel my complaints via the Internet Police, and have all corp thieves tried in Internet Court. It's the only way to be safe.

Father Lazarous
Posted - 2007.01.20 11:09:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Father Lazarous on 20/01/2007 11:06:15
Hmm, this is all very interesting -BUT- I ask the CCP Mods this...

...as we are being listed by DeckardIRL, can a list be started of who has been stolen from as well that the people on DeckardIRL's list can add to?

Surely it can't be one rule for thieves and another for victims as we are not allowed to add the people concerned... YARRRR!!


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