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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
The Firm.
Posted - 2007.01.01 19:54:00 - [1]
 

It's a touchy subject, so no flaming please. Smile

I was going to let this footage die, but I keep hearing that logoff tactics are fair play because gatecamps aren't. Next time you have to argue that point, link to this.

Logoffs, 24MB, 640x480, 1:58.

NereSky
Gallente
RETRIBUTIONS.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2007.01.01 23:01:00 - [2]
 

its good u showed it, its logoffs like these that make me sad as to what Eve is becoming.
Shame CCP won't grow a pair and do something

Xori Ruscuv
Multiversal Enterprise Inc.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2007.01.02 05:56:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 02/01/2007 05:55:53
Dude, awsome music! Very Happy
Love to see vids with great music! o7


Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.01.02 14:16:00 - [4]
 

some one nerfed eve files as the video isn't working

Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
The Firm.
Posted - 2007.01.02 18:12:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
some one nerfed eve files as the video isn't working

EVE Files does have temporary issues sometimes, try again later. I just checked, it is still there, and it plays fine in WinAmp and VLC. Smile

Nir
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
Posted - 2007.01.02 21:40:00 - [6]
 

Awesome. Very Happy

zero2espect
Amarr
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
Posted - 2007.01.03 02:09:00 - [7]
 

yes yes. every logoffski i catch on fraps will be included as a trailer in all my future videos with the pilots name shamefully noted.

Zurtur
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.01.03 04:44:00 - [8]
 

Sad Sad

Z

goodby4u
Valor Inc.
Valor Empire
Posted - 2007.01.04 08:34:00 - [9]
 

Nice vid..

Heres a fix for logoffs!

Ok,if your in battle and you press the quit game button,it should then send a loud screeching noise instead of letting you log out.

And if you just close out eve,all your ships including the ones in every hanger you own combust and all your money is given to eve radio as a christmas present.

Or we could just make more funny videos about ships logging off i guess...Confused

Chronus26
Team Laser Explosion
Molotov Coalition
Posted - 2007.01.04 10:00:00 - [10]
 

Is there something about Feroxes that compels the pilot to log off when faced with a PvP situation? Confused

BladeUK
Posted - 2007.01.05 18:34:00 - [11]
 

We had a so called group of pirates known as RHN log of on us in GUC a few times Sad Also had a frieghter log on us at a gate when we were snipin....Did have a screeny of that but lost it Rolling Eyes

Tareen Kashaar
Gyoza Society
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.01.08 04:24:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: BladeUK
We had a so called group of pirates known as RHN log of on us in GUC a few times Sad Also had a frieghter log on us at a gate when we were snipin....Did have a screeny of that but lost it Rolling Eyes


Hahahahahahaha!

Just had to, we used to fight them :D

Dling this.

Olixia Castitatis
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
Posted - 2007.01.15 20:35:00 - [13]
 

Sauce on the music?

Hitman396
Caldari
Asset Relocation Specialist Enterprises
Galactic Syndicate
Posted - 2007.01.16 18:46:00 - [14]
 

Damn thats lame, please CCP do somthing Sad

Cilppiz
FinFleet
Posted - 2007.01.17 17:14:00 - [15]
 

Logging off to save ship or pod is so sad, cant imagine why people who practise that even bother to play eve.


Electric Fox
IMPERIAL SENATE
Posted - 2007.01.17 19:41:00 - [16]
 

Nice Vid Sy - particularly liked the music, but then again I was born a generation too late.

Perhaps some system where logging off in 0.0 just leaves you at a deep safe spot so if you want to scan them out you can do, but it'll take a while. They could make it so that your ship vanishes altogether if you have a cloak fitted to a high slot. With prototype cloakers so cheap now, it would mean sacrificing a high slot to safely log off in 0.0 space. Titans and motherships would need work I guess. Ah well.

You should link in your holiday in vale vid so that we can see what a 'ceptor does to a ferox YARRRR!!

Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
The Firm.
Posted - 2007.01.19 22:25:00 - [17]
 

Thanks for all the supportive words, guys. Smile

Music credit is given in the video, Rolling Stones - Paint it Black.

Nearly 2000 page views so far, I wonder if any of the resulting downloads came from the CCP office. If not, I think they should take a look at this, because it is clear Fraps of what we are dealing with out there. Full scramble on, damage being dealt, and the opponent simply disappears or warps off.

The player featured was killed a couple of hours later by an Ishtar, Ferox and Enyo. He did have a WCS or two fitted, but not enough to escape the -4 I had on him every time he logged. I think if you log / lose connection, if your ship doesn't warp fast enough to escape scramble, it should stay and face with the quite reasonable consequences.

In the meantime, this thread gets sigged.

Idara
Caldari
Queens of the Stone Age
Posted - 2007.01.20 01:20:00 - [18]
 

Jesus christ that's pathetic.

I, thankfully, have never run into this 'logoffski' trend that's been out there for some time, but that's just disgusting.

CCP really should do something about, oh I dunno, having the ship stay logged in when it's being aggroed like that.

Fitting music mang. Smile

Draaggor
Caldari
Igneus Auctorita
Posted - 2007.01.20 02:25:00 - [19]
 

great music...gave me flash backs!!! Had a vetran HH1 helicopter pilot pipe this music in to our head sets durring low altitude patrols.
A solution to the logoff would be simple. 10 second delay for logoff after you leave the combat area. If you want to explore low sec space make sure you can fly the ship you are in. The ship does not make the pilot.

Rule #1....Never risk what you are not willing are not prepared to lose? Cool

Viront
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.01.21 15:14:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Draaggor
Rule #1....Never risk what you are not willing are not prepared to lose? Cool


As it stands you could risk it and if you don't think you will win, use the I WIN hot key (ctrl+q).
So Rule #1 Never risk what can't tank for long enough to logoffski.

I see this so much now but my corp does not allow us to use it, if CCP doesn't consider it an exploit does it count as a built in game mechanic and valid tactic? After all it is supported by CCP. I've seen many fights that I could have logged away from but losing is part of the game when you want to PVP, not a mistake but a reality.

As it stands all I can do is try to see them probed and podded, then I set standing -10 and leave a note "logoffski n" n represents the number of times I see it so I can update as I see it. When logoffski is more than 3 or 4 it is pretty clear that it isn't a coincidence. Of course this is only for my information but you I can get a good idea of the persons character just from looking in local.



E Vile
Posted - 2007.06.19 19:02:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: goodby4u
Nice vid..

Heres a fix for logoffs!

Ok,if your in battle and you press the quit game button,it should then send a loud screeching noise instead of letting you log out.

And if you just close out eve,all your ships including the ones in every hanger you own combust and all your money is given to eve radio as a christmas present.

Or we could just make more funny videos about ships logging off i guess...Confused


Hehe that would be great.

E Vile
Posted - 2007.06.19 19:18:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Idara
Jesus christ that's pathetic.

I, thankfully, have never run into this 'logoffski' trend that's been out there for some time, but that's just disgusting.

CCP really should do something about, oh I dunno, having the ship stay logged in when it's being aggroed like that.

Fitting music mang. Smile


Yea like Star Wars Galaxies if you logged you were still online for a few. Logging to get out of immediate danger was never a tactic. Even as a hunted Jedi padawan there were escape tactics, but nothing as PATHETIC as logging to magically escape. At worse you ran to safety and logged if they camped the locked door you were hiding behind. Point is you needed to run to get there. There was a countdown when you logged. One would never just shut the comp off because it left your char in possible danger unless in your personal home or simmilar locked door.

CCP WTF?! How can you let something like this remain? You pretend this game is for hardcore pvp but this is one of the biggest carebear safe puss moves I ever seen in a mmo.

If it's a possible issue from a server drop, just reemberse the ship after it is proven the server dropped them.

SiJira
Posted - 2007.06.20 18:54:00 - [23]
 

seriously its not like stuff is so expensive - if people cant figure out that they should not fly something that took them 3 months to get the isk for then its their problem not CCP's

no one will quit if you make logoff more harsh - thats a fallacy because the ones logging are already eve addicts


K'reemy G'udness
Posted - 2007.06.20 20:32:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: K''reemy G''udness on 20/06/2007 20:31:46
Originally by: E Vile
blah blah blah


Dood, your metal is BRUTAL. Somebody make vids with THIS music fo sho.

EDIT: Duh, to the OP, awesome video, high quality, makes the point nicely. Old Stones are awesome btw.

Rigsta
Gallente
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
Posted - 2007.06.23 00:09:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Rigsta on 23/06/2007 00:10:25
Originally by: Idara
Jesus christ that's pathetic.

I, thankfully, have never run into this 'logoffski' trend that's been out there for some time, but that's just disgusting.



A 20-man gang decided to roll into BoB space earlier today. When EXE and ISS were setting up for the kill, they ALL logged off. I have no idea what they did prior to that or what became of them afterwards :)

Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
The Firm.
Posted - 2007.06.25 22:07:00 - [26]
 

Cool, nearly seven months on, and it's still getting views. Surprised

We've had a few good changes made to aggro since then, still room for improvement though.

Jan Riksma
Caldari
Cosmic Fusion
Advocated Destruction
Posted - 2007.06.27 08:06:00 - [27]
 

Aloha Sy,

Nice vid. What are your current plans in game. Get on our TS and lets have some fun we might interested you with our plans.

Cheers,

Jan


 

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