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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.01.03 00:43:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Benglada
Welcome to the internet.

Men are men

Women are men

Girls are FBI agents.

Fixed Wink.

And lol at Izzy Very Happy.

Davlos
Deus Imperiosus Acies
Posted - 2007.01.03 00:59:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: IzzyChan
Oh here we go again. Rolling Eyes


What? You mean that you're actually a girl?! >.> <.<

hormonal babe
Posted - 2007.01.03 11:58:00 - [33]
 

I'm a RL women and my husband got me into the game. I found the learning curve pretty steep (and i'm still learning) but I love the game. The guys in my corp are awesome and respectful, couldn't ask for anything more. I've met 3 other RL women in the game and 2 played male characters to avoid being chased around by little boys who act like they've never had contact with a female. Besides the suprise of finding out I'm female, or rather wanting a pic of me, I'm having a nice time playing. So for all the women out there, Yeah for us.

HB

Sinder Ohm
Demonic Corp
G00DFELLAS
Posted - 2007.01.03 12:30:00 - [34]
 

Firstly I am not a girl, but back in the day when I was a 4 day old noob i ventured into a 0.4 system (Mara). Haylee (she claimed to be a girl) popped my pvp cherry. She killed me and my 2 mates (all 3 of us in merlins and Haylee in a Caldari AF). She was very kind though didnt pod me and after seeing I was 4 days old baught me a new merlin.

Respect Haylee Wink

IzzyChan
Naqam
Shaktipat Revelators
Posted - 2007.01.03 13:12:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Davlos
Originally by: IzzyChan
Oh here we go again. Rolling Eyes


What? You mean that you're actually a girl?! >.> <.<


Cylon, actually. There's a difference. Wink

I wanna be an FBI agent, just like some cool spy movie. YARRRR!!

Lianhaun
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.01.03 14:28:00 - [36]
 

I'm not a girl, the forums tells me so

Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Tague Corp
Posted - 2007.01.03 16:30:00 - [37]
 

Shame threads like this always end up like a car-crash. Sad

Verus Potestas
Caldari
SP4RTANS
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2007.01.03 16:36:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Verus Potestas on 03/01/2007 16:35:43
I've noticed a distinct lack of free stuff as a result of this thread

You guys want me to start posting pictures of some random chick off myspace and saying it's me or something? Confused

Verus Potestas
Caldari
SP4RTANS
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2007.01.03 17:55:00 - [39]
 


Yendri
Perkone
Posted - 2007.01.03 19:31:00 - [40]
 

MMORPG?
Mostly men, online, Role-Playing Girls?
(not that I can talk with this character, but, let's face it, the male achura look like train-spotting accountants.)

it could also be said that the "uggh.... guuurl" responses from sex-starved males is exactly why most women won't let on about thier gender on mmos. I can't blame 'em.


Al Haquis
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.01.03 19:45:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Lianhaun
I'm not a girl, the forums tells me so


LOL SO TRUE , SHE IS A WITCH.


RazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazz

With Love From Al Haquis


Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.01.05 06:58:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Verus Potestas
OMFG SEND FREE STUFFS TO VERUSCHAN

OMFG Shocked.

Lardarz B'stard
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.01.05 07:04:00 - [43]
 

One of my best mates is getting married in June to a girl he met on the internet on one of those daft dating sites.

I was very impressed to discover that she is not a complete monster. She is actually really nice.



Keianhno
Posted - 2007.01.06 23:23:00 - [44]
 

I prefer 'woman' to 'girl', but yeah, I am one :)

I think it would be interesting to find out the male/female ratio of EVE players.

It took me ages to realise how many of the women on EVE are actually men. Strangely I was shocked by it at first. Although occasionally it's amusingly obvious - as in the case where someone (won't mention any names) describes his female alt as a "*****ler" in the bio section
Rolling Eyes

Tiodus
Gallente
City of Certitude
Zinc Alliance
Posted - 2007.01.07 00:41:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Tiodus on 07/01/2007 00:39:55
A couple of articles on the subject

The future of female gaming
"Killcreek"'s take on female gaming at microsofts' site

These maybe could help the OP to get some fresh views on what his daughter will encounter.

Personally, I think in-station gaming (and all it will bring along) will lower the threshold for more women to join eve. Really, atm I find eve to be the definition of nerd-goodness with sci-fi, statistics, analyzers and spreadsheet charts with wild wars to the left and right.

-Tiodus

Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.01.07 08:47:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Keianhno
I prefer 'woman' to 'girl', but yeah, I am one :)

I think it would be interesting to find out the male/female ratio of EVE players.

It took me ages to realise how many of the women on EVE are actually men. Strangely I was shocked by it at first. Although occasionally it's amusingly obvious - as in the case where someone (won't mention any names) describes his female alt as a "*****ler" in the bio section
Rolling Eyes

20:1, give or take some according to some recent statistics either CCP or that survey we took put out...I forget the source so don't quote me.

hired goon
Posted - 2007.01.07 14:12:00 - [47]
 

Argd, who was that really hot girl who used to have a picture of herself in a kemono in her sig before it was nerfed into oblivion?

Moses Mortensen
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.01.24 16:03:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Moses Mortensen on 24/01/2007 16:24:50
Hey
I read some place that there are 95% RL male players and 5% RL female players in EVE. Would be interesting to know how many EVE-female avatars and how many EVE-male avatars there are...Wink

Im a RL woman player and I also prefer the woman to girl.
I think one of the reasons ther isnt that many female plyers (yet) is that it is quite diffecult to get in to this game if you havent played a lot of mmo's or computer games before. You need cuite a lot of pre-knowleged to not feel compleatly lost in the beginning! I think the game could benefit with more female players.

It is also intersting to note that in the overall game statistics 62% are male players and 38% are female players..
But Im curious - do the male players in EVE really want more female players? Because to get more, there would properly have to be some changes in the learning curve, since the female gamers dont have the necesery experince of computer games... yet! (hopfully the younger generations will! Very Happy)

Kalahari Wayrest
Posted - 2007.01.24 20:58:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 24/01/2007 21:22:36
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

(edit:think that pic came from one of the other billions of 'girls on teh internets' threads Razz)

Quote:
The smart ones just won't announce themselves here publicly if they want to avoid harrassment.


I r not smart? Sad


Hin Vemere
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2007.01.25 02:21:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Mayoz Miner
I have a six year old daughter who is completely computer game mad and she would play them 24/7 365 if we let her ... she already asks me a million and one questions about EVE if she see me play it


You should let her hop on and have a go occasionally - the results could be hilarious.

Nova Z
Drunk GanG
Reckless Chavs
Posted - 2007.01.25 09:48:00 - [51]
 

I'm a RL female - what I really resent is being asked to prove it. Rolling Eyes


Lianhaun
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.01.25 10:17:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Al Haquis
Originally by: Lianhaun
I'm not a girl, the forums tells me so


LOL SO TRUE , SHE IS A WITCH.


RazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazz

With Love From Al Haquis





Awww your first post without spelling errors. So cute.

Siren Shiva
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.01.25 10:24:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Siren Shiva on 25/01/2007 10:23:31
I'm no girl. I'm a young looking woman.

Wasnt this exact thread already around months ago? With the almost same OP text (not looking for an online girlfriend yadda yadda)

Originally by: Verone
Can think of 5 or 6 offhand who have been in Eve but have since left.

It's not all that uncommon.




I'm active, you bastard.


Kalahari Wayrest
Posted - 2007.01.25 11:43:00 - [54]
 

Quote:
since the female gamers dont have the necesery experince of computer games... yet!


I did Razz

Raya Sunshine
Caldari
Midnight Sojourn Inc.
Posted - 2007.01.25 18:34:00 - [55]
 

I'm a 23-year old real life EVE-playing woman [/signed on the "woman" not "girl" note], but I don't feel the need to share my main's information.

I had never played video games really [Civilization III, Age of Mythology, Sid Meier's Pirates] before starting in EVE. A now ex-boyfriend was really big on EVE, and made me create an account, do the tutorial, yada yada. I couldn't get over how dumb it was [I'm not big on sci-fi]...til I got hooked.

I must admit I resent the implication made by one poster in this thread that the learning curve needs to be adjusted for female gamers. Reading that felt almost like stepping back into some Medieval biology class talking about women as lesser beings. [If anyone wants a REALLY interesting read, check out Linkage ] . I don't believe in any way that my being female and not having super h4x gaming experience crippled me when learning to play EVE.

Additionally, although it can definitely be amusing to get spontaneous "WHAT was that? Did I just hear a female voice?" or "WHOA" or "Uuuughhhh" or even silence in response to "Hi guys, what's up?" on vent, minimizing those reactions would contribute to a decrease in the feeling like I was some sort of exotic animal in the zoo.

I will say that most of the guys I talk to are respectful of me and seem to get over the fact that I have <gasp> breas*s, although I have encountered a guy who thought it was funny to joke about raping me. After he apologized, I explained exactly why that was not a really funny topic of discussion, and we're fine with each other again. My point in sharing this story is that I believe that for women gamers to become more of a driving force, they are either going to have to learn to deal with perpetual crudeness/sexual innuendo that can sometimes deteriorate to the point where it is offensive, or other players will need to learn that there are some lines that should not be crossed, if not out of respect for the woman they are talking to, then for their mother, grandma, sister, whatever.

Have I gotten free stuff because I'm female? Yes, though I hate to admit it.
Do I play to that and try to get the most I can out of people? No.
Is it nice to feel like I have 20 or so brothers who will answer questions and not act like I'm some idiot? Yes.
Do I sometimes get talked down to like an idiot b/c the person I'm talking to obviously feels like I can't possibly understand the complexity of ship fittings, alliance politics, accounting numbers? Yes.
Have I heard the phrase, [insert name here] is the corp chick? Yes.
Have I responded, "You know, I also do this little funny trick sometimes...it's called FLYING A SHIP AND PWNING? Yes.

Diversity ftw, and I will say that being in such a vast minority has been an extremely unique learning situation about group dynamics. Sometimes I think everyone needs to remember that part of what makes MMOs so amazing and addictive is the community in which we play.

Lastly, I would like to add that I am by no means tech-savvy. EVE is actually amazing for that...when I have a technology problem, I log in and ask for help with whatever it is in corp/alliance chat. It's fantatic to have so many people around who know what they're talking about on that end!

I think that's about enough from me...Women + Science + Math = Unstoppable.


Alowishus
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2007.01.25 20:09:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Alowishus on 25/01/2007 20:08:09
Based on the ******ed way that some guys playing this game act toward women I'm surprised any will admit that they are. I'm not talking about sexism or anything (because that's funny), I'm talking about guys acting as if they've never talked to a girl before. I'd be perfectly happy if no girls played Eve because, frankly, gender makes no difference unless you're looking for an e-girlfriend/e-stalker victim.

Slaem Kona
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:59:00 - [57]
 

hey. I am a woman Eve player too. I think it would be fun to have an all-women corp. Please eve mail me if interested and we can talk further!

Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
Posted - 2007.02.25 15:28:00 - [58]
 

There are female players in EVE. However, only few, fewer then in other, less PvP oriented MMOGs. If you are looking for female companionship, go to The Sims Online, Second Life, Tale in the Desert, or similar things without fighting. Or WoW, of course.

Juwi Kotch

Anatolius
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.02.25 16:08:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Zezman
And if you want a game where there's a ton of WOMEN playing, then go play Dark Age of Camelot, literally half the gamers there or a good 40% or so are real women.


God, yes. In DAoC, well over half my guild was female. There was a reason for this: In DAoC, armor was armor, and breasts weren't quadruple Z.

Also my male characters in DAoC got more free stuff than my female characters. Razz Man, men had it good. Free stuff without being harassed with, "wil u be my boyfriend?1/11/1/1/1!!!!!!!1111111111eleven" Razz


Vari
Carbide Industries
Posted - 2007.02.25 17:06:00 - [60]
 

Okay, two points here,

Have you ever heard the stereotypes: women can't drive, or women can't be engineers/scientists? Well, it's based on the different ways society expects boys and girls to behave. We expect boys to be running around the playground chasing each other and while the girls stand around and talk. Thus, these gender roles continue in different ways, and females end up with stronger communication and social and weaker spatial brain development. And males, vice versa. Easy ways of adjusting for this is to see if there's any sports she might be interested in, letting her play computer games that rely heavily on spatial skill (racing games now, shooters maybe when she's older), letting her watch you/help out when you do mechanical/handyman work, or anything else you might think of. I know plenty of wonderful women who've played sports/videogames (Super smash brothers is a popular one now) from a young age, and they definitely can handle a car and aren't girl-dumb. Eve may train spatial skills, but it depends how you play it.

I know a few females that play Counterstrike competitively and one, professionally. One thing I learned is that women can't have the mental attitude that being a female excuses them for not doing as well. Females play games just as well as males, assuming they put the same amount of focus and time into getting better. Some play games just for the attention, we'll leave those out, but some just make the mistake of letting everyone know she's female. I think for a female to not get too distracted in games, it helps a lot for them to only reveal their gender to those she's trusted. This problem of course, will be obselete as soon as females are no longer treated as rare sights in the games they play.


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