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Zarithas
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.12.28 19:57:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Zarithas on 28/12/2006 20:31:22
Hey, I need some help on my Thorax setup. It'll primarily be used solo, but there'll definitely be used in gangs too. I can't use t2, so please keep that in mind. I'd prefer if it was focused more on damage than tanking. I honestly cannot decide what to use for my high and low slots, but I know i'll need a webber, a warp disruptor, and a MWD for the mid slots. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

Code'X
Posted - 2006.12.28 20:14:00 - [2]
 

(My 2 posts above jus messed up)

^^ Need the same help as the OP, i jus made kinda the same post a few mins ago :)

Khavi Vetali
Gallente
Posted - 2006.12.28 20:17:00 - [3]
 

For solo work I prefer a heavy electron II in highs, 1x sar II 1x 1600 plate 1x rcu II 1x dcu 1x mag stab II.

Small gangs usually a 800 plate, small rep ion fit. If I really need dps I go for 5x heavy neutron, 3x mag stab 1x rcu 1x dcu lows.

Zarithas
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.12.28 20:30:00 - [4]
 

Well, first off, I can't use t2, so that wouldn't work for me. =/

Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights
The Cool Kids Club
Posted - 2006.12.28 20:37:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Zarithas
Well, first off, I can't use t2, so that wouldn't work for me. =/


Then just substitute in the best named tech 1 and experiment from there

velocoraptor
Art of War
Cult of War
Posted - 2006.12.28 20:51:00 - [6]
 

Depending on your fitting skills and as u said you want more gank than tank:

HI: full of named med neutron/ion blasters (maybe dish one for a small/med nos
MED: mwd, web, scram (7.500m)
LOW: 2 mag stabs, 1 med rep, rest fitting mods/tank/another mag stab.

5 valkyries

There you have it, the gangkarax ;-)

ponieus
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2006.12.28 22:39:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: ponieus on 28/12/2006 22:39:57
I dont recall the excat fittings but here is something you might like

high:
3x the best named small blasters you can get
2x best named med nos you can get

mid:
best named mwd you can get
best web and scramble you can lay your pirate hands on

low:
1600Rolled Thung.(or was it 800 ugg been so long i cant remeber)
Med rep (agian Best named)
as many Mag stabs as you can fit.

drone bay mix of meds and lights

Used that setup many of times. Works great.

Takahashi Chiaki
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.12.29 00:12:00 - [8]
 

T1 version of the t2 electron fit:
5x Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Reactor Control Unit I (probably need good skills, need skills + T2 RCU for t2 electrons)
Small Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener I
Armor Kinetic Hardener I

Hints:
- use good drones. My personal pick is valkyrie I (or II's)
- substitute the small rep for a magnetic field stab (or hardener) if you have friends with rep drones or stuff.

Black Spartan
Posted - 2006.12.29 01:50:00 - [9]
 

i would pretty much go with ponieus's post......... small turrets / 2 named nos
and it was 1600 plate
get in as fast as you can hit em with the sml turrets screws up the optimum ranges and 1600 plate will tank for a long time with the 2 nos powering your armor rep :D

Samirol
Love is Hate
Posted - 2006.12.29 02:18:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Takahashi Chiaki
T1 version of the t2 electron fit:
5x Modal Electron Particle Accelerator I

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Reactor Control Unit I (probably need good skills, need skills + T2 RCU for t2 electrons)
Small Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener I
Armor Kinetic Hardener I

Hints:
- use good drones. My personal pick is valkyrie I (or II's)
- substitute the small rep for a magnetic field stab (or hardener) if you have friends with rep drones or stuff.
/signed, i use the t2 version regularly, its ftw

Goumindong
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2006.12.29 02:24:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: ponieus
Edited by: ponieus on 28/12/2006 22:39:57
I dont recall the excat fittings but here is something you might like

high:
3x the best named small blasters you can get
2x best named med nos you can get

mid:
best named mwd you can get
best web and scramble you can lay your pirate hands on

low:
1600Rolled Thung.(or was it 800 ugg been so long i cant remeber)
Med rep (agian Best named)
as many Mag stabs as you can fit.

drone bay mix of meds and lights

Used that setup many of times. Works great.


Why not fly a Maller if you arent getting the bonus from the small blasters?

Its marginally slower [5 m/s] has an extra low and an extra high for an EAN and extra blaster.

You will have less cap, but the 33% damage increase from guns[fit 4+2 nos] should make up for the loss of drones and you will tank ~66% better.

Damien Smith
The Insane Tormentors
Posted - 2006.12.29 02:49:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: ponieus
Edited by: ponieus on 28/12/2006 22:39:57
I dont recall the excat fittings but here is something you might like

high:
3x the best named small blasters you can get
2x best named med nos you can get

mid:
best named mwd you can get
best web and scramble you can lay your pirate hands on

low:
1600Rolled Thung.(or was it 800 ugg been so long i cant remeber)
Med rep (agian Best named)
as many Mag stabs as you can fit.

drone bay mix of meds and lights

Used that setup many of times. Works great.


Nooooo!

I swear I want to kill small children every time I see that setup. One of my corpmates (Yes TheJacko, I'm looking at you...) uses that same setup and it winds me up. What's the point of the uber damage bonus to med hybrids it gets if you're going to ignore it completely and fit frigate guns? Go for 800 plate and electrons or 400 plate and ions and make use of that tasty bonus.

The very same corpmate refuses to fit a microwarpdrive (or even an AB!!) to his T2 blasterthron... Crying or Very sad

Zarithas
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.01.05 22:19:00 - [13]
 

Thanks guys for the posts, but I think my hardest decision right now is actually just my high slots. I agree with the other posters saying not to use small blasters, and I agree with them. My Medium Hybrids and Gallente Cruiser skills are kinda high, and I don't want them to go to waste. If I really want better tracking, i'd get in another ship.

What I can't decide is how many Noses should I use. I've heard SO many different things about this. Some people say they never undock a Thorax without 2 Noses, some people say 1, some say none (I haven't heard of 3 Noses o.O ). I honestly just don't know. So, what's everyone opinion about that?

Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
Posted - 2007.01.05 22:40:00 - [14]
 

Well main problem about med guns on rax is that you cannot fit them with proper tank, 1600mm plate + med repper + 3xhardener.
About noses, 1 is all you need to run guns even against heavier nossing on you, just need to sync nos with guns.
What i'm using and i think its REALLY stable fitting, you got gank, you got tank and tackling=]

4xlimited blasters
1xkneave/ghoul nos
1xmwd
1x20km scram
1xweb
1x1600mm tung place
kin/therm/explo n-type.

Its cheap and reliable setup, not many cruisers can kill me in that ^^

Quilan Ziller
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.01.06 01:13:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Damien Smith

Nooooo!

I swear I want to kill small children every time I see that setup. One of my corpmates (Yes TheJacko, I'm looking at you...) uses that same setup and it winds me up. What's the point of the uber damage bonus to med hybrids it gets if you're going to ignore it completely and fit frigate guns? Go for 800 plate and electrons or 400 plate and ions and make use of that tasty bonus.

The very same corpmate refuses to fit a microwarpdrive (or even an AB!!) to his T2 blasterthron... Crying or Very sad


I am usually a big fan of using the ship's bonuses to the max. A medium-blasterrax is a very nice and effective setup. However, sometimes there are very good reasons to fit the Rax with frig guns/big plate.
For example, if you don't have high Medium Hybrid or Gallente Cruiser skills, but can use T2 small guns well (Small Blaster Spec 3 or 4), a setup with 4-5 Light Neutron IIs + MFS will handily outdamage the typical Heavy Electron setup.
In some cases, the small gun setup is preferable just because of the tank advantage alone. I use a small T2 gun/1600mm plate setup to rat Sansha battleships (up to 1.7 mil variety Lords), and I have yet to be killed by these rats. I have tried a medium blaster setup for that purpose before. Sanshas were dying marginally faster to bigger guns, but I had major trouble tanking even the triple 800 K spawn.
An added advantage of small guns is that most of the time I can summarily own the odd inty or AF pilot that decides a "noob" cruiser is easy prey. Small blasters do less raw damage than medium ones, but their faster tracking and better signature resolution can save your day in many situations.

Kalek Astroth
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A
Posted - 2007.01.06 04:37:00 - [16]
 

when you gank you pick your target so np using med blaster instead of small one Wink
you can try also to skill for ecm drones (not a long path)
they can be very usefull when you go for a big target or your prey call back upYARRRR!!

Riho
Gallente
Drop of Blood
Posted - 2007.01.06 12:59:00 - [17]
 

hes asking for a gank setup and all i see is some crap small gun setups pft

atm useing whit ok results:

5x med neutron t2 (use best named if u cant use t2)
mwd, scram,web
2x rcu, 3x mag stab (t2 if u can)

still havent lost one too :D

Tisanta
Amarr
Stargazer Exploration Company
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2007.01.06 13:29:00 - [18]
 

tbh the thorax is a bit crap solo, 5 small blasters dont have the dps and 5 med blasters ruins your tank(unless electrons).

if you want to really kill things quick in solo make sure you are the one to engage the combat and use the following setup.

5 med neutron (t2 if ya can)
mwd, webber, scrammer
2/3 damage mods, repper II, dcu II (bit expensive) and eanm II if you have the room.
5 hammerhead II ( or valks.. hammerhead II are more effective)

Tisanta
Amarr
Stargazer Exploration Company
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2007.01.06 13:29:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Tisanta
tbh the thorax is a bit crap solo, 5 small blasters dont have the dps and 5 med blasters ruins your tank(unless electrons).

if you want to really kill things quick in solo make sure you are the one to engage the combat and use the following setup.

5 med neutron (t2 if ya can)
mwd, webber, scrammer
2/3 damage mods, repper II, dcu II (bit expensive) and eanm II if you have the room.
5 hammerhead II ( or valks.. hammerhead II are more effective)


oh main thing about that setup and pirating is you choose your targets so against a vexor or other cruiser it should be really effective.

Pabs Sco
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.02.15 12:48:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Pabs Sco on 15/02/2007 12:46:58
I've just set up mine as:

[HIGHS]
3 x Small ION T2 Blasters
2 x Med NOS

[MIDS]
1 x MWD
1 x Scram
1 x Web

[LOWS]

1 x 1600mm plate
1 x SAR II
2 x HArdeners
1 x RCU (I need to get Adv Weapon Upgrades :P)

5 x T2 Hammerheads

With void S I only do 3 less DPS compared to best names Mid Blasters with AM. I can;t use T2 Med Blasters Embarassed

wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
Posted - 2007.02.15 13:20:00 - [21]
 

5x neutrons blah blah
mwd, web ,scrambler blah blah ( cap booster)
3x mag fiel stabs, dmg controler, rcu blah blah

5x ecm drones ( they still are as good ?)

DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.02.15 13:37:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Damien Smith


Nooooo!

I swear I want to kill small children every time I see that setup. One of my corpmates (Yes TheJacko, I'm looking at you...) uses that same setup and it winds me up. What's the point of the uber damage bonus to med hybrids it gets if you're going to ignore it completely and fit frigate guns? Go for 800 plate and electrons or 400 plate and ions and make use of that tasty bonus.

The very same corpmate refuses to fit a microwarpdrive (or even an AB!!) to his T2 blasterthron... Crying or Very sad



Shocked WTF? if i was him i'd kill u for posting that lol.

he doesn't use a propulsion mod on a b'thron? lmao even an ab is silly imo but none is nubbish.

have to disagree on the rax tho. light neutron II's work very well actually with much better tracking and still decent damage and 1600 plate, medium rep and medium nos pwns on the rax.

i'm still in shock over TheJacko


DE



Bigby
Lollipops for Rancors
REIGN Alliance
Posted - 2007.02.15 14:00:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Damien Smith


Shocked WTF? if i was him i'd kill u for posting that lol.

he doesn't use a propulsion mod on a b'thron? lmao even an ab is silly imo but none is nubbish.

have to disagree on the rax tho. light neutron II's work very well actually with much better tracking and still decent damage and 1600 plate, medium rep and medium nos pwns on the rax.

i'm still in shock over TheJacko


DE




Depends, if you've got a friendly cov ops providing a warp in point, then as long as you've got enough web on the target I guess you don't need the propulsion mod.

Crazy for sure, becuase if you get caught at the wrong range you're screwed, but would allow for easier fitting.

DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.02.15 15:12:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Bigby
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Damien Smith


Shocked WTF? if i was him i'd kill u for posting that lol.

he doesn't use a propulsion mod on a b'thron? lmao even an ab is silly imo but none is nubbish.

have to disagree on the rax tho. light neutron II's work very well actually with much better tracking and still decent damage and 1600 plate, medium rep and medium nos pwns on the rax.

i'm still in shock over TheJacko


DE




Depends, if you've got a friendly cov ops providing a warp in point, then as long as you've got enough web on the target I guess you don't need the propulsion mod.

Crazy for sure, becuase if you get caught at the wrong range you're screwed, but would allow for easier fitting.


yeah definately nice on the fittings but jees. i'd be ashamed if i lost me mega to a frickin cruiser just because i couldn't get close to him Laughing

or my friend was dying 30km away from me and i couldn't get to him in time becauwse i'm doing 150m/s lol


DE



Christopher Dalran
Gallente
Deadly Alliance
Posted - 2007.02.15 15:14:00 - [25]
 

Try using 1 Multispec ECM and 5 ec-300 drones. If a single rax can break its tank then that will jam it.

Willo Vasquez
Gallente
Raptus Regaliter
Pride - Honor - Duty
Posted - 2007.02.15 15:18:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Willo Vasquez on 15/02/2007 15:16:27
5x Light neutrons
1x 10mwd
1x 7.5k scrambler
1x med cap booster
1 x SAR, 4 x nano's
Tracking rig, damage rig, range rig

nanoblasterax Smile

Or swap 2 of the nano's for mag stabs

Nanogankblasterax Very Happy

/I'll get me coat Cool

dralid maximus
Eighth Army
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2007.02.15 16:34:00 - [27]
 

Shotgun setup :

H : 5x Heavy Neutron
M : mwd, web, scram
L : DCU, PDU (or RCU if u have crappy skills), 1 tracking enhancer and 2 mag stabs

Look for named if you have fitting problems.

Oh and yes, I have tried this setup, I fly it all the time :)

Emsee
Empire Assault Corp
Posted - 2007.02.15 17:28:00 - [28]
 

With good gunnery skills, the platerax still rocks.


 

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