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DeckardIRL
The Randoms
Posted - 2006.12.22 22:47:00 - [1]
 

This toon is a Thief, spy and sabateur. scum

This toon is being prevented from leaving his current corp. This post is for anyone that tries to buy this toon should see this post and know that this toon will be forever griefed.

Deck

Flapp
Flapp Corp
Posted - 2006.12.23 00:11:00 - [2]
 

I remember Adsterine from when we both were part of FAMULUS EXTERORUM for a brief time.
He always was a jumpy type of character. Never satisfied, he was always looking for something to push harder to the limits.

As an example, when deadspace was something new as well as level 4 missions, our corp tried out some remote armor repair fittings.
Adsterine was asked to give us a hand by testing our setup - shooting torpedoes from his raven at that time.
We knew he would like to see us venturing into lowsec. more than just testing something, but we insisted.
The result was a lost BS, as Adsterine was not able from stopping that final torpedo in time. Rolling Eyes

About 2 weeks later he left our corp. for another one which declared war on us within 2 days. Again, it seemed we could not keep up with his pace.

This all happened one and a half years ago. Shortly before i left EVE and returned just a couple weeks ago.
Now who called me from the mere back of his Buddy List?

We had a nice convo all the way, as i do understand by now that all professions or ways to play this game are valid as long as one does not break any major rules.

Adsterine is unique in his approach to the game. I don't curse him for being as he is, nor will i praise him.

But he is as unique as other names i recall from the past, like TankCEO or Charlie Murphy.

Ad, we shall surely meet again. Maybe blue, maybe red. Who cares as long as we have some fun?

Merry Christmas BTW :)









kublai
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.12.23 00:22:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: DeckardIRL
This toon is a Thief, spy and sabateur. scum

This toon is being prevented from leaving his current corp. This post is for anyone that tries to buy this toon should see this post and know that this toon will be forever griefed.

Deck


What he did is LEGAL and a part of the game.

What you're doing, preventing him from leaving the corp is considered and EXPLOIT, there I put it into nice caps for you.


*snip* Not only do you show that your corporation is incompetent here, you also show you respond to legitimate grief tactics with exploiting, good going man.

You, and your corporation just lost alot of credability in my eyes, I forgot who the thief was, or what he did
*snip*

Vodka Neat
Posted - 2006.12.23 00:49:00 - [4]
 

I will be saving him in my buddies list just in case I need to hurt an enemy corp. He is obviously very effective he really got to the OP and he apparently isn't in the same corp!? Good job keep it up and have fun with it.

Kehmor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.12.23 01:01:00 - [5]
 

Luckily for Ads, the GMs will take his side so cry us a river.

Duno what you did Ads but well in

DeckardIRL
The Randoms
Posted - 2006.12.23 01:29:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: DeckardIRL on 23/12/2006 01:38:02
If a GM comes looking I will supply him with proof.... in the meantime nice to see that thieving scum are rife in the Eve universe. I will fight fire with fire... hmmm the OP is now 3 hrs old and no GM....

The thief should have quit as soon as his job was done. Now he is caught.... it is not the business of GMs

Deck

Ottozia
Posted - 2006.12.23 02:03:00 - [7]
 

If this toon wants to play by his rules then thatís fine by me, but he and others like him need be except such behavior must have a price if caught. We in turn need to have the ability to catch them and make their life hell.

Such tactics are not clever or unique, but because itís done by a few sad peps itís considered part of the EVE game play. I wonder how CCP would consider if this became the norm and peps started to leave the gameÖ.

Have either a code of conduct or anarchy, and then expect the same back, STFU to those who think we are not allowed to counter back.

Meanwhile whilst he and others like him slide back into the dark little corner they came from, we would have moved on and properly encountered the next new slimy player.

Long live EVE.
Very Happy

Exogene
Posted - 2006.12.23 02:09:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Exogene on 23/12/2006 02:09:44
It is against rules to hold a player in a corp against his will, whether he stole all your assets or not it doesn't matter. I hope for your sake Deckard that you just get off with a warning, because this an exploit and you can get banned for this to my knowledge.

You can provide all the proof you want about the corp thief to the GM's, it does not make a difference and no action will be taken against him I am afraid. ugh

edit: p.s. It is your fault for giving him access and have not proper security measures.

Cadela Fria
Amarr
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2006.12.23 02:12:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: DeckardIRL
Edited by: DeckardIRL on 23/12/2006 01:38:02
If a GM comes looking I will supply him with proof....


Well isn't that cute...proof that you were naive and stupid enough to give the guy access to your stuff? Because thats all the proof you have buddy.

Originally by: DeckardIRL

in the meantime nice to see that thieving scum are rife in the Eve universe. I will fight fire with fire... hmmm the OP is now 3 hrs old and no GM....


GM's aren't staring themselves blind on the forum waiting for YOUR post...it can be anywhere from 5 minutes from now, till tomorrow.

Originally by: DeckardIRL

The thief should have quit as soon as his job was done. Now he is caught.... it is not the business of GMs

Deck


On the contrary..it IS the buisness of the GM's..you're abusing an exploit, which is against the rules. The other guy isn't...what part don't you understand?

Oh, and do yourself a favor, don't call Kublai an alt..cause thats the last thing he is. if only your dimwitted brain cared to amount to doing a bit of homework before saying something stupid like that.

Yarek Balear
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.12.23 02:14:00 - [10]
 

While I don't condone corp theivery on a moral standpoint, the OP makes himself look more of an idiot than the theif.... Is this an official Xelas Alliance thread then ???

P.S. posted with main incase you have problems polishing your p33n...

DiuxDium
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.12.23 02:15:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: DeckardIRL
This toon is a Thief, spy and sabateur. scum

This toon is being prevented from leaving his current corp. This post is for anyone that tries to buy this toon should see this post and know that this toon will be forever griefed.

Deck


When I click his link, I get a big pop-up of my characters face.....Shocked

Quilan Ziller
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2006.12.23 02:29:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: DeckardIRL
This toon is a Thief, spy and sabateur. scum

This toon is being prevented from leaving his current corp. This post is for anyone that tries to buy this toon should see this post and know that this toon will be forever griefed.
Deck


Does not it amaze everyone that people who whine and cheese the most about the game mechanics are also calling EVE characters "toons"?
For Amarr God's sake, they are not "toons". They are characters.
What this guy did is completely legal as far as game mechanics is concerned.
It was the corporation's fault that the assets were not secured properly.
The OP, however, is an exploiter and griefer according to CCP rules.
He is preventing the character in question from leaving his corp (a documented
exploit). He is also threatening to hunt this specific character forever (harrassment
and griefing).
Sorry, no sympathy here for the "victim".
Cheers to the thief! It was probably a nice heist if this... CEO is so ticked offVery Happy

Dario Wall
Posted - 2006.12.23 04:45:00 - [13]
 

Just to clarify some missing points that seem to have been left out...

1. Adsterine is not, and never was a member of Bravehearts.
2. He appearantly stole and destroyed ships that were in space at a POS, because the setting got bugged and allowed alliance members in.
3. Deckard's a nubbing.Laughing

Personally, I think everyone is overreacting a bit on the issue. Oh well, they're only human...


Kumu Honua
Posted - 2006.12.23 05:41:00 - [14]
 

What others have said.

What you are doing is an exploit, and can get you into trouble. Is your vendetta against him important enough to risk disciplinary action against YOUR account?

Not a good idea.

Dario Wall
Posted - 2006.12.23 06:04:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: DarknessInc
PS: Rule of Thumb in EVE. "dont fly what you cant afford to replace" also translates into "Dont put in your corporate hangars for people to take, that you cannot afford to replace without proper security measures in place"


Don't comment if you don't read the replies. If you had, you would have seen that Adsterine was never a member of Bravehearts, so he never had access to the hangars. What happened was he got inside a POS shield because the shield settings got bugged somehow, and then removed and destroyed ships that were floating INSIDE the shield.


Major Stormer
Caldari
MEK Enterprises
Posted - 2006.12.23 06:17:00 - [16]
 

Dont Mistake your rubbish shield settings for a bug.

Nice POS. Or it was..

batloard
Amarr
Debitum Naturae
Drop the Hammer
Posted - 2006.12.23 07:55:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: batloard on 23/12/2006 07:57:54
Aye. It wasnt a bug, dont say it was, he offlined a tower belonging to his own corp, The only person to blame is the ceo for giving him acess.

DarknessInc
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.12.23 08:09:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Dario Wall


Don't comment if you don't read the replies. If you had, you would have seen that Adsterine was never a member of Bravehearts, so he never had access to the hangars. What happened was he got inside a POS shield because the shield settings got bugged somehow, and then removed and destroyed ships that were floating INSIDE the shield.




you still were idiots. I just checked his Corp history and he is an ex GHSC.

Personally I wouldnt accept GHSC members into MY alliance knowingly. and I wonder if you have ANY proof that he killed those ships that were inside the shield. Also, FYI you cannot target things inside the shield. Or perhaps instead of trying to blame someone of another corp, you should look into someone inside your own that took down the shield, allowing the ships to be destroyed, and then reinitializing it and onlining everything all over again

:)

Stakhanov
Metafarmers
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2006.12.23 08:42:00 - [19]
 

GHSC strikes again Very Happy

A fool and his ISK...

Dario Wall
Posted - 2006.12.23 09:17:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: batloard
Edited by: batloard on 23/12/2006 07:57:54
Aye. It wasnt a bug, dont say it was, he offlined a tower belonging to his own corp, The only person to blame is the ceo for giving him acess.



I wonder how many times I'm going to have to repeat myself... Adsterine was never a member of the corporation that got robbed. As far as I am aware of, you can't offline another corporations POS unless you join the corp, get access, then offline it.

Originally by: DarknessInc

Personally I wouldnt accept GHSC members into MY alliance knowingly. and I wonder if you have ANY proof that he killed those ships that were inside the shield.


Members of Bravehearts got mails from the Insurance company stating that they are getting default payment from losing the ships because Adsterine was pilotting them, voiding whatever insurance level was paid for.


kublai
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.12.23 09:46:00 - [21]
 

Lol, you let a guiding hand social club member into your corporation?

Guess some people are so ignorant they don't even haveto use alt's to complete their missions anymore, those guys are merc's, adsterine will probably never breathe a word about this on eve-o and odds are he was paid to **** you off, they specialise in just this sort of thing, though I wonder what they took, as I wouldnt figure them to settle for a few ships o_O

Still, if you're going to allow guiding hand into your corp you better make damn sure you know the guy -well- before doing so.

Oh and funny thing, on this part of the forum, you'll find most people have a great deal of respect for guiding hand social club, just because of how they execute manuvers like this.

Ottozia
Posted - 2006.12.23 10:09:00 - [22]
 

We seem to be missing the point here guys.

If there is no counter measure to theft and such behaviour, this game just like the real world becomes an arena of anarchy. Alliances / Corps / Etc become worthless. These few peps fuel such environments and as long as they can continue good luck to them, but just like the real there must be a price for such behaviour and if they get caught, they must go to jail and be shamed (just like the real world)

If he wants to get out of jail, return what he took (bail) or are CCP saying this game is set in favour of such behaviour, which makes all what we do pointless and creates mistrust and suspensionÖ

So if the mechanism is there to catch them, good and may they suffer like the rest of us for their actions.

Xmas.

kublai
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.12.23 10:14:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Ottozia
We seem to be missing the point here guys.

If there is no counter measure to theft and such behaviour, this game just like the real world becomes an arena of anarchy. Alliances / Corps / Etc become worthless. These few peps fuel such environments and as long as they can continue good luck to them, but just like the real there must be a price for such behaviour and if they get caught, they must go to jail and be shamed (just like the real world)

If he wants to get out of jail, return what he took (bail) or are CCP saying this game is set in favour of such behaviour, which makes all what we do pointless and creates mistrust and suspensionÖ

So if the mechanism is there to catch them, good and may they suffer like the rest of us for their actions.

Xmas.



To translate; "Dear CCP, a mean bully stole my candy, if you don't ban the mean bully and give me back my candy I will go play World of Warcraft and you will go bankrupt!"

Reply from the CCP Game Mechanics to you; Dear sir, Enjoy your adventures in Azeroth, I recomend Night Elf hunter, perhaps with the name "Leggolasz5" don't let the pirates kick you on your way out.

Dario Wall
Posted - 2006.12.23 10:23:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: kublai
Lol, you let a guiding hand social club member into your corporation?

Guess some people are so ignorant they don't even haveto use alt's to complete their missions anymore, those guys are merc's, adsterine will probably never breathe a word about this on eve-o and odds are he was paid to **** you off, they specialise in just this sort of thing, though I wonder what they took, as I wouldnt figure them to settle for a few ships o_O

Still, if you're going to allow guiding hand into your corp you better make damn sure you know the guy -well- before doing so.

Oh and funny thing, on this part of the forum, you'll find most people have a great deal of respect for guiding hand social club, just because of how they execute manuvers like this.


Your corporation name fits you. Since you failed to read and comprehend what I said before, let me say it again... Adsterine is NOT, and was NEVER was a member of Bravehearts. He stole, and destroyed ships that were floating INSIDE the starbase shields.


Ottozia
Posted - 2006.12.23 10:42:00 - [25]
 

Well thanks for that intellectual post Kublai

Itís a shame CCP havenít introduced an IQ test for this game as the forums would be a lot healthier.

Our loss is easily replaced, thatís not my problem, what is, is that peps are allowed to get away with it if they get CAUGHT and peps moaning in here about him being HELD so spare me the crap. Live by the sword die by the sword.

Or shall we come to your Corp / Alliance and have funÖ..go on make my day and let me send my bullies to take your candy...

Anyway I am off to play WOW with my 8 year old son and prepare him for the big bullies...

Awaiting an highly intellectual reply. Xmas.
Very Happy

DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.12.23 10:47:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: DeckardIRL
This toon is a Thief, spy and sabateur. scum

This toon is being prevented from leaving his current corp. This post is for anyone that tries to buy this toon should see this post and know that this toon will be forever griefed.

Deck


mmm ok firstly it's not a frickin toon ffs it's a character, stupid term.

secondly what ppl are saying is right. corp theft is a valid part of the game and one that keeps it interesting imo.

preventing someone from leaving their corp is as others have said an exploit.

now it doesn't matter if you don't understand the logic of this, that is irrelevant. all you need to know is that ccp say it is and you will follow their rules or you won't play this game, simple. and having a go at someone for their spelling is kinda childish and makes you look stupid when the person often comes back and says they aren't even english and still spell better than many english.

All in all not a very impressive post.

DE



welsh wizard
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2006.12.23 11:25:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: welsh wizard on 23/12/2006 11:29:51
Originally by: Dario Wall
Originally by: batloard
Edited by: batloard on 23/12/2006 07:57:54
Aye. It wasnt a bug, dont say it was, he offlined a tower belonging to his own corp, The only person to blame is the ceo for giving him acess.



I wonder how many times I'm going to have to repeat myself... Adsterine was never a member of the corporation that got robbed. As far as I am aware of, you can't offline another corporations POS unless you join the corp, get access, then offline it.



He was dude, the tower and Adsterine were both in the same corp. Unless you're talking about something other than the tower.

Celes, don't get involved in the smack please.

kublai
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.12.23 11:37:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Ottozia
Well thanks for that intellectual post Kublai

Itís a shame CCP havenít introduced an IQ test for this game as the forums would be a lot healthier.

Our loss is easily replaced, thatís not my problem, what is, is that peps are allowed to get away with it if they get CAUGHT and peps moaning in here about him being HELD so spare me the crap. Live by the sword die by the sword.

Or shall we come to your Corp / Alliance and have funÖ..go on make my day and let me send my bullies to take your candy...

Anyway I am off to play WOW with my 8 year old son and prepare him for the big bullies...

Awaiting an highly intellectual reply. Xmas.
Very Happy


I have a few things to say and reply to, but as your reply was my favourite i'll deal with you first, I have stolen the following intellectual reply from bash.org:

<Donut[AFK]> HEY EURAKARTE
<Donut[AFK]> INSULT
<Eurakarte> RETORT
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-RETORT
<Eurakarte> QUESTIONING OF SEXUAL PREFERENCE
<Donut[AFK]> SUGGESTION TO SHUT THE **** UP
<Eurakarte> NOTATION THAT YOU CREATE A VACUUM
<Donut[AFK]> RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> ADDON RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> COUNTER-RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-COUNTER RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON
<Miles_Prower> RESPONSE TO RANDOM STATEMENT AND THREAT TO BAN OPPOSING SIDES
<Eurakarte> WORDS OF PRAISE FOR FISHFOOD
<Miles_Prower> ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCEPTENCE OF TERMS

kublai
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.12.23 11:40:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Dario Wall
Originally by: kublai
Lol, you let a guiding hand social club member into your corporation?

Guess some people are so ignorant they don't even haveto use alt's to complete their missions anymore, those guys are merc's, adsterine will probably never breathe a word about this on eve-o and odds are he was paid to **** you off, they specialise in just this sort of thing, though I wonder what they took, as I wouldnt figure them to settle for a few ships o_O

Still, if you're going to allow guiding hand into your corp you better make damn sure you know the guy -well- before doing so.

Oh and funny thing, on this part of the forum, you'll find most people have a great deal of respect for guiding hand social club, just because of how they execute manuvers like this.


Your corporation name fits you. Since you failed to read and comprehend what I said before, let me say it again... Adsterine is NOT, and was NEVER was a member of Bravehearts. He stole, and destroyed ships that were floating INSIDE the starbase shields.




Guess what, eve is a schi-fi mmo set in a world without laws, in Empire you obide by concord's rules, however concord does NOT get involved in corporation policy's etc and as such do not guard you against theft, 0.0 is not claimed by any empire, BoB/D2 etc are all -empires- equal to the gallente, corporate empires that claim space the same way the amarr claim space, and as such you haveto create and enforce your own laws, if you wish to shoot at him for doing this, go ahead, but why would CCP get involved? it doesnt even fit into it if you go all RP on it.

You get no sympathy in this forum, incase you didn't notice, this is the forum for bounty hunters and their prey...as eve is rather lacking bounty hunters, this is basicly where the pirates all hang out.

Long live the thief! YARRRR!!

Cadela Fria
Amarr
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2006.12.23 11:44:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Cadela Fria on 23/12/2006 11:44:32
In short conclusion:

Xelas Alliance: Abusing an exploit and admitting to it...you guys should be punished for this..no seriously, you should.

Ads: Stole stuff from Xelas cause obviously atleast 1 person was gullible enough to give him access. I don't steal myself, but, yay for thief!


Oh btw Kublai, that's my favorite bash qoute! \o/


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