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Miso
Doomheim
Posted - 2003.11.25 11:36:00 - [1]
 

Its a pretty good ship. I'm surprised.

darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2003.11.25 11:51:00 - [2]
 

im first to reply, yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.


Oh! hi miso ma lassEmbarassed.

Miso
Doomheim
Posted - 2003.11.25 11:52:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Miso on 25/11/2003 11:53:37
your reply was almost as pointless as my thread.Laughing

Hi Darth! Ganked DB yet? (in the naked, touchy feely way that is)

actually, anyone care to share their loadouts for this ship? does anyone actually fly one?

Nirvy
Minmatar
Posted - 2003.11.25 12:02:00 - [4]
 

Aye, i bought a weird pot noodle with only asian writing on it yesterday. It was nice. I was suprised also Razz

Slithereen
Amarr
Posted - 2003.11.25 12:04:00 - [5]
 



Well I fly one.

I'm a known collector of weird ships.

The armament is simple.

H:

3 650s. Get the named ones if you can.
2 H-50s. Get the named ones if you can.

M:

Medium Shield
EM shield hardener
One Cap recharger

(Named ones preferable of course)

L:

Do what is needed to fit the above. Usually one CPU booster, and reactor, one gyrostab, and one relay. Named ones preferable of course.

For the drones, which is essential for fighting with a Bellicose,

1 Heavy Drone
2 Medium Drones
5 Light Drones





Sable Moran
Gallente
Moran Light Industries
Posted - 2003.11.25 12:19:00 - [6]
 

Quote:

1 Heavy Drone
2 Medium Drones
5 Light Drones



Could you explain your reasoning for that choise? Wouldn't it be better to get 2 heavy and 2 medium drones instead? (Yes I understand the 'more targets to confuse the enemy' concept, but still.)

Denst Rowell
Minmatar
UNITED KINGDOM MAYHEM
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2003.11.25 12:47:00 - [7]
 

i cry when my little drones die Crying or Very sad

darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2003.11.25 13:01:00 - [8]
 

i hate to say.

But i really dont think cruisers other than the BB and the caracal have much of a place in PVP.


i once used a moa, and it took a mOo member about 5 shots to blow me out of the sky.

Since DMG mods stacking has been nerfed, its a bit better, but now u have tachs and real good dmg on cruisies and torps, cruisers just dissapearShocked.

im saying this cause i know Miso is a PVP, but will this stop her, hell noWink, and should it?, hell noWink.

go get them girl, grrrr.




Miso
Doomheim
Posted - 2003.11.25 13:15:00 - [9]
 

Darth, I feel that thats a bit harsh, but cruisers and frigates are best used in co-ordinated attacts with BS support and BB EW.

I will fly my new ship next time we hunt and I will destroy your puny Scorpion!!! HHAHAHA

Back to reality: I use 3 launchers and 2 projies instead, as the torps and cruise are nicer for the dam agains PCs. But its a nice ship, if a bit weird looking.

darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2003.11.25 14:28:00 - [10]
 

Yeah, maybe i was, sry miss pocket rocketVery Happy., dont pod me plz:)Wink.


What i was really trying to say is, BS do insane dmg sometimes.

I got a hit of close to 1000dmg with a 1400mmShocked.

this isnt a usual hit, but tachs can hit for uber DMG also.

Some of the frigates are good, as long as u use them for EW, and as EW is getting nerfed next patch, frigates will be less usefull.Neutral.


I hate flying a BS around all the time, put interesting USEFULL cruisers/frigates into the game soon plz.

We will b around laters, if u fancy toasting some rats.

Diana Merris
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2003.11.25 16:48:00 - [11]
 

I use the same setup Slithereen does just with 2 heavy and 5 light drones.

Slithereen
Amarr
Posted - 2003.11.25 16:53:00 - [12]
 

Quote:
Quote:

1 Heavy Drone
2 Medium Drones
5 Light Drones



Could you explain your reasoning for that choise? Wouldn't it be better to get 2 heavy and 2 medium drones instead? (Yes I understand the 'more targets to confuse the enemy' concept, but still.)



I got way too many light drones from loot so it does not cost me anything when they die.

The light drones also attract enemy fire, and take the heat off from the medium and heavy drones.


Maud Dib
Caldari
The Bleeding Heart Cult
Posted - 2003.11.25 18:36:00 - [13]
 

Meh if it's not a Blackbird or Caracal it's crap.

Gravedancer
Caldari
LV Praetorians
Posted - 2003.11.25 18:50:00 - [14]
 

One of my corpmates, katjia, flies bellicose and swears by them. I dont know that much about them really but she seems to do ok in them.


j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2003.11.25 19:16:00 - [15]
 

"i hate to say.

But i really dont think cruisers other than the BB and the caracal have much of a place in PVP.

i once used a moa, and it took a mOo member about 5 shots to blow me out of the sky."


... Would take the same if not less to shoot down the Caracal in the same situation, though.

So if you include Caracal into PvP because it can shoot the jammed people, no reason against including the Moa or any other cruiser on the same conditions...

CLONE 9
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2003.11.25 20:58:00 - [16]
 

Quote:
Darth, I feel that thats a bit harsh, but cruisers and frigates are best used in co-ordinated attacts with BS support and BB EW.


Would be nice to think so .. but with drones being the way they are these days - do you really think a battleship needs support from lower class ships? Just curious.

j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2003.11.25 21:10:00 - [17]
 

"Would be nice to think so .. but with drones being the way they are these days - do you really think a battleship needs support from lower class ships? Just curious."

drone vs frigate
drone vs cruiser

in either case, would you put your money on the drone? :s

(a battleship doesn't need support of smaller ships. But the battleship with support of smaller ships has much better chance of beating the opponent than the battleship with drones...)

CLONE 9
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2003.11.25 21:16:00 - [18]
 

Quote:
(a battleship doesn't need support of smaller ships. But the battleship with support of smaller ships has much better chance of beating the opponent than the battleship with drones...)


Then why is it I never see combined fleets in action but see plenty of BS / Drone combinations? Is everyone playing it wrong or are they all gravitating towards the most efficient combat set up .. as usual.

j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2003.11.25 21:23:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: j0sephine on 25/11/2003 21:26:28

*shrugs* Drones have one big advantage -- you don't need a human pilot for them.

If a corporation is wealthy enough to put all their pilots in battleships (and many of them are) it's no wonder they'll want to do so... a choice between having another battleship in battle vs having a support ship isn't very complicated. --;;

(btw, for what's worth, we were typically operating such mixed force which you 'never see in battle' -- couple of battleships, ew/assault cruisers and the missile frigates for those who like this sort of a ride ;)

CLONE 9
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2003.11.25 21:25:00 - [20]
 

*shrugs*

I wish it wasn't so ..

*walks out of Miso's thread before he gets accused oh hijacking it*

Slithereen
Amarr
Posted - 2003.11.26 00:55:00 - [21]
 



Actually if you want to talk about fleet support, Gallente and Amarr battleships can better do if there is some support, especially from cruisers with missiles and EW. Defenders are a good idea.

Caldari and Minmatar battleships tend to be more self sufficient, especially Minmatar ships.

A good PvP setup for the Belli would be to have 2 720s and 3 H-50s. If you can get Scouts and XP-3200 launchers the better.


Jash Illian
Minmatar
Light Brigade Industries L.L.C.
Posted - 2003.11.26 04:54:00 - [22]
 

Quote:


Actually if you want to talk about fleet support, Gallente and Amarr battleships can better do if there is some support, especially from cruisers with missiles and EW. Defenders are a good idea.



Tried using an Amarr Battleship with an industrial as a support ship?

Sounds strange...but try it. Laughing

Slithereen
Amarr
Posted - 2003.11.26 07:10:00 - [23]
 



If I could, but I'm kind of freelancing right now, so I do things alone.

Varia
Gallente
Posted - 2003.11.26 12:39:00 - [24]
 

Quote:
Aye, i bought a weird pot noodle with only asian writing on it yesterday. It was nice. I was suprised also Razz


Iím surprised that somebody actually likes pot noodle.Smile


Chai N'Dorr
Selectus Pravus Lupus
Posted - 2003.11.29 10:47:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Chai N'Dorr on 29/11/2003 10:49:21
Quote:
|Miso:|
But its a nice ship, if a bit weird looking.


Guess you haven't seen the Scythe then... bought that for laughs (and cheap) this week. Love the thing.

Effective? No...
Go people who see it "WTF is that? oh yes!

Gonna buy me the Bellicose soon, just to have the Minmatar ship set complete Cool


Ithilgore
Caldari
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
Posted - 2003.11.30 02:06:00 - [26]
 

Quote:
Guess you haven't seen the Scythe then... bought that for laughs (and cheap) this week. Love the thing.


I tried it on chaos, and damn its wierd Smile
Must be the most silly ship ingame after the osprey Shocked

Bellicose
Gallente
Caldari Stainless Steel industries
Posted - 2004.01.17 23:19:00 - [27]
 

Shocked

hmmm wierd looking ship ... but i like the name though Laughing

Wink



pooti
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2004.01.18 01:39:00 - [28]
 

they get lost in between stabbers and ruptures, but look like an interesting, multi-purpose ship.

almost bought one for my first cruiser but couldnt save enough and got a stabber instead. almost got one for my second cruiser, but got a rupture instead.

one of these days..

pooti
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2004.01.18 01:40:00 - [29]
 

can hold a few heavy drones too, cant it?

EveJunkie
Posted - 2004.01.18 03:43:00 - [30]
 

I actually fly the arbitrator for fun/agent missions. Its loads of fun to fight with due to it's diverse weapon loadout.

And its nice hearing "OMG what a nice looking ship!" everywherre you go.


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