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Trovarion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2006.12.19 14:50:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Trovarion on 19/12/2006 14:55:14
So first of all this is not a rant, I am just trying to give feedback and get some reports of other people on the topic to see if my observations are wrong/correct.

So since I cannot be arsed to run missions I decided to set my 2 higher SP characters up in low sec and get some ratting done. I do this in Minmatar and Gallente space, simply because I have all my stuff/corps/friends etc. around there, short: It's where I am living anyway.

So in the Minmatar area I get to shoot at Angels, which drop the following:

Alloyed Tritanium Bar
Burned Logic Circuit
Charred Micro Circuit
Fried Interface Circuit
Smashed Trigger Unit
Thruster Console
Tripped Power Circuit

with the bold ones appearing to be unique for the Angel rats.

Now I can make 3 quite usefull rigs out of these, with Fried Int. Circuit unfortunately overlapping on two:

+Projectile Damage increase with the Smashed Trigger Units (which subsequently rules out taking any of the other Projectile rigs due to identical component needs; needs Fried)
+Cargohold increase with the Alloyed Trit. Bars -unfortunately also needs Fried but I regard everything else that needs Trit Bars and no Fried rather useless...
+Speed increase rig with the Thruster Console (my sink for Tripped Circuits, unfortunately sharing Charred Circuits with the Damage increase rig, but I seem to be finding a nice amount of these, more than Fried ones anyway...)

So now we add the Gallente Region stuff, which gives additionally:

1. Broken Drone Tranceiver
2. Conductive Polymere
3. Contaminated Lorenz Fluid
4. Malfunctioning Shield Emmiter

Now I've encountered a few problems there finding rigs to specialise in additionally to the first 3, because:

ad 1.: Actually the smallest "Problem" here, namely being that I consider 2 rigs really usefull that are obviously both needing the Drone Tranceiver, but I'll prolly just go for the Drone Mining rig, because it's a sink for the Bunred Logics and not competing with my other rigs for Charred ones. So about fine here.
ad 2.: simple Poblem - Damaged Artificial Neural Networks dont drop for me, so I have no use for them.
ad 3.: They are for Habrid turrets rigs. All turret rigs need Charred and Fried. Which I cannot afford to spread out on more BPOs, so no use of them either.
ad 4.: Well guess what. All shield rigs need Charred or Fried.

So ratting in an additional region gives me the possibility to build ONE more rig type, which personally i find a bit low. I guess people will say I can just have to trade the ones I cannot use at all for some Melted Cap Console or Tangled Power Conduit hehe...sure, but one more rig for the additional region doesn't sound right.

So from my point of view (which could be all wrong and that's why I am hoping to get more views on the topic posted) I think we need a slight increase of Fried and Charred Circuits, since a lot of rigs use them (could be biased there, how do others see it?), so dedicated salvagers (well yeah, for a while I will be one I guess) don't need to specialise on 2-3 rigs but maybe 5-6. Unless it is all intended by CCP of course and yeah a Corp dedicated to salvaging could of course make it all better, but Salvaging is just as much carebearing as I can cope with =)
Or we get an additional Circuit and rotate this into the BPOs so not 4, 5, 6, types (like all turrets, shields,...) use the same 2 circuits.

So, other reports...?

Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
Posted - 2006.12.19 15:02:00 - [2]
 

The best thing to do is start a partnership. With diffrent people in all the regions. Catch we can make rigs for laser and armor. But need parts for the other things.

It appears each region only gives out parts for two types of rigs.




Succurso
Scare Tactics
Cult of War
Posted - 2006.12.19 15:04:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Succurso on 19/12/2006 15:05:24
Alloyed Tritanium Bars, smashed Trigger units and the thruster Controls also drop in the new regions. (i.e the ones with the drones.) I am at work at the moment so dont have my full list but I will post it later.

Although I will say now that it seems in my region anyway that there is a much greater range of components dropping. (sorry I cant provide number etc, but it does seem to be all types of circuits dropping.)

Along with a huge amount of Broken Drone trancievers (no surprise there :) )

Trovarion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2006.12.19 16:24:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Trovarion on 19/12/2006 16:25:45
Edited by: Trovarion on 19/12/2006 16:24:33
On a side note...it appears that Battlecruisers drop the worst for me and it's not like there's few out there in 0.1, I seldom have a 3BC spawn that drops more than once, most of the time i get three times nothing. And if they drop it's seldom more than 3 things.

It's kinda a slap in the face when CCP says "yeah big rats should drop more than small ones" and then you get more stuff from 10 frig drops than from 3BC drops (and i mean actual drops, not tries)...

could be just my bad luck, but I don't know :( (mission)BS dropped ok-ish, but BC seem to miss out...

Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.19 16:36:00 - [5]
 

In metropolis we can make cargo rigs and projectile rigs no problem off of cosmos.

Dejana Morgana
Posted - 2006.12.19 16:55:00 - [6]
 

no ****? Cool

I can make them too from belt rats in Minmatar Space, but that's what I said above, right? Rolling Eyes

Brother Tycho
Amarr
Posted - 2006.12.19 17:00:00 - [7]
 

I get enough to build a cap control every few missions in amarr space vs sanshas and blood imo the best rig you can build

Xsag
Caldari
Red Galaxy
S I L E N T.
Posted - 2006.12.19 17:14:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Trovarion
Edited by: Trovarion on 19/12/2006 16:25:45
Edited by: Trovarion on 19/12/2006 16:24:33
On a side note...it appears that Battlecruisers drop the worst for me and it's not like there's few out there in 0.1, I seldom have a 3BC spawn that drops more than once, most of the time i get three times nothing. And if they drop it's seldom more than 3 things.

It's kinda a slap in the face when CCP says "yeah big rats should drop more than small ones" and then you get more stuff from 10 frig drops than from 3BC drops (and i mean actual drops, not tries)...

could be just my bad luck, but I don't know :( (mission)BS dropped ok-ish, but BC seem to miss out...


by any chance is your salvage skill 2? i found that bc's where very poor droppers too until i got my salvage to 3 then it went alot better

just thought id mention that thnx

Trovarion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2006.12.19 17:44:00 - [9]
 

the skill is at level 4. sorry for the alt posting above.


 

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