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CCP kieron

Posted - 2006.12.18 17:29:00 - [1]
 

From the new accouncement posted in the Player News Center:

In conjunction with Harris Interactive, CCP will be holding an e-mail survey for past and present US community members from the dates of 20 December through 4 January. This survey will cover a broad range of topic, including questions concerning playstyle, how participants heard of EVE, what games participants are looking forward to, etc.

Please note: No account or billing information will be asked for in this survey, but participation will require visiting the Harris Interactive website via a link provided in the e-mail.

As with any e-mail solicitation, please exersize caution when visiting any links or requests for information.

If you have any questions, please post them in this thread.

ZaKma
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.12.18 18:12:00 - [2]
 

And why only the US community?

Takahashi Arran
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2006.12.18 19:30:00 - [3]
 

as this is all they will have paid for presumably

Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
Posted - 2006.12.18 20:13:00 - [4]
 

Oh...you pvp'er have had it now! US people like pve games! "Quick maw get the shotgun!"





JForce
Minmatar
Posted - 2006.12.18 23:17:00 - [5]
 

I can't see how the limitations can be a money thing, as an online survey works on economies of scale. It would be just as easy to do all Eve players.

This suggests a targetting of th U.S. market. If the survey did not include "playstyle" I wouldn't mind.

However this now suggests that Eve development direction is driven by the biggest potential market, rather than by ALL players.

No dumbing-down of Eve? We'll see....Very Happy

Jinx Barker
Caldari
GFB Scientific
Posted - 2006.12.19 07:44:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: JForce
I can't see how the limitations can be a money thing, as an online survey works on economies of scale. It would be just as easy to do all Eve players.

This suggests a targetting of th U.S. market. If the survey did not include "playstyle" I wouldn't mind.

However this now suggests that Eve development direction is driven by the biggest potential market, rather than by ALL players.

No dumbing-down of Eve? We'll see....Very Happy


Could it also mean that CCP will begin heavy advertising in USA? Perhaps thats the reason for the survey? Maybe we will see the EVE movies/adverts on SciFI and Vid.Game Channels.

My guess it is just the thoughts of expanding further, you must admit that EVE is heavily dominated by the European player base.

This sounds like a good business descision, but, I still am worried a little bit. Since WOW is too bloody popular in USA and the City Of Heroes and City of Villains, and those are all "baby" games. Dont want EVE turning into something like that, where there is no real risk involved.

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2006.12.19 09:56:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Venkul Mul on 19/12/2006 09:57:22
While I would like a general survey, with results sorted by country, I have a high hopes that EVE will never become too easy.
The fusion with White Wolf is a good indicator that even on the USA market that isn't the probable market strategy, as WW has based his success in the RPG field primary on games for a mature audience, capable of accepting losses and hardships for the playing character.

insanebe
Caldari
draketrain
Posted - 2006.12.19 14:47:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: insanebe on 19/12/2006 14:48:10
europe has a population of 710 million people (thats europe not the E.U which is 500 million) so to find the game populated with lots of europeans shouldn't be that suprising however i actually believe that the number of non europe countries is higher than people realise... and is due to different time zones

Keikko Aranata
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2006.12.19 14:59:00 - [9]
 

Looking forward to the email survey link. I'm US-based, so any concerned EU denizens can send me ISK to assuage concerns.

Have a nice day!



Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
Posted - 2006.12.19 19:59:00 - [10]
 

A third Shard is in the oven ?

Nate D
Hell's Rejects
The Council.
Posted - 2006.12.19 21:06:00 - [11]
 

yeah no one really knows of EVE here in the US... I hope CCP does start advertising here...

-N

Dal Thrax
Perkone
Posted - 2006.12.19 23:20:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Dal Thrax on 19/12/2006 23:21:22
Originally by: Jinx Barker
Originally by: JForce
I can't see how the limitations can be a money thing, as an online survey works on economies of scale. It would be just as easy to do all Eve players.

This suggests a targetting of th U.S. market. If the survey did not include "playstyle" I wouldn't mind.

However this now suggests that Eve development direction is driven by the biggest potential market, rather than by ALL players.

No dumbing-down of Eve? We'll see....Very Happy


Could it also mean that CCP will begin heavy advertising in USA? Perhaps thats the reason for the survey? Maybe we will see the EVE movies/adverts on SciFI and Vid.Game Channels.

My guess it is just the thoughts of expanding further, you must admit that EVE is heavily dominated by the European player base.

This sounds like a good business descision, but, I still am worried a little bit. Since WOW is too bloody popular in USA and the City Of Heroes and City of Villains, and those are all "baby" games. Dont want EVE turning into something like that, where there is no real risk involved.


If EVE ever got WoW's 7 million subscribers CCP would be very, very happy. CCP just purchases White Wolf Games, an American company. If nothing else they need a better idea of what American gamers want for the NEW game. That and WWGS is going to release an EvE PnP sometime next year (probably). Means more US exposure soon. On the other hand it also means that a backlash against EvE could hurt WWGS core products.


Jirikki
Posted - 2006.12.20 08:28:00 - [13]
 

I'm a US EVE player and I didn't get any email about this survey. Was I supposed to get it by now? Do I have to do something special to get it?

Dal Thrax
Perkone
Posted - 2006.12.21 01:13:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Jirikki
I'm a US EVE player and I didn't get any email about this survey. Was I supposed to get it by now? Do I have to do something special to get it?


Same here, no E-mail. Has anybody gotten theirs yet? Maybe the poll starts at midnight (or is this a random sampling)?

M3ta
Amarr
Giants in the Playground
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.21 12:44:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: kieron

a broad range of topic



So the "broad range" is only one topic?

Celestiana
Gallente
Order of Excalibur
Posted - 2006.12.21 20:00:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jirikki
I'm a US EVE player and I didn't get any email about this survey. Was I supposed to get it by now? Do I have to do something special to get it?


I got mine this morning...

Kroy
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2006.12.21 20:05:00 - [17]
 

They coudl be targeting the US because Privacy laws are really slack there. They can't get away with so much in the EU, though that depends on what was agreed to during sign up... speaking of which... where is the privacy policy for Eve?


Nullity
Gallente
Posted - 2006.12.21 20:54:00 - [18]
 

When asked what board games EVE players like playing, the results were pretty much as I expected. Monopoly was in the lead with 62.2% followed by Chess with 57.6%. Interesting poll, overall. I wonder what will come of it.

Kerushi
Naval Protection Corp
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2006.12.21 20:55:00 - [19]
 

no offense but i`m not in the US, neither did i gave u guys permission to give out my email addy as i`m now f`ing subscribed to some f`ing "survey" company`s database

Originally by: spam mail

How can I unsubscribe?
If you prefer not to receive any more emails regarding
this study, please send an email to:
unsubscribe_J29785@harrisinteractive.net
and write "Unsubscribe" in the subject line.



this was my most private email wich is only used in sensative payed stuff as it also contains my name

ty f`ing very much Evil or Very Mad

Kerushi
Naval Protection Corp
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2006.12.21 21:28:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Kerushi on 21/12/2006 22:42:05
Edited by: Kerushi on 21/12/2006 21:40:35
brilliant, not even getting an unsubscribe confirmationExclamation

not even my goddamn customers get this email addy or friends with their spam jokes


get my email removed out of their database plz, u put it there, get it out kthxbye

edit: a nice quote from the EULA
Quote:

B. Personal Information
CCP does not guarantee that personal information transmitted to the System, including without limitation information in your Account, will not be disclosed to third parties. While CCP's aim is to keep your personal information confidential and CCP employs security measures to protect the System, third parties may unlawfully intercept transmissions or private communications, or access data within the System. Additionally, CCP may (and you hereby expressly authorize CCP to) disclose information about you to private entities, law enforcement or other government officials, as CCP, in its sole discretion, deems necessary or appropriate to investigate or resolve possible crimes or to respond to judicial, regulatory, agency or similar inquiries.



`nuff said

edit for the clueless
Harris Interactive Inc. is not a private nor a govermental entity

Voltaire Leriel
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2006.12.21 23:25:00 - [21]
 

Quote:
CCP does not guarantee that personal information transmitted to the System, including without limitation information in your Account, will not be disclosed to third parties.


You've read it wrong kerushi, its a confusing sentence with alot of negatives, but it is saying essentially:

CCP does not garantee that personal info <snip> will not be disclosed to third parties.

They DON'T garantee that they WON'T disclose info.

Meaning that they can if they want to.

It's a confusing sentence and i advise CCP to revise it and make it clearer, but CCP can do whatever it wants with your e-mail adress.

Kerushi
Naval Protection Corp
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2006.12.21 23:28:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Voltaire Leriel
Quote:
CCP does not guarantee that personal information transmitted to the System, including without limitation information in your Account, will not be disclosed to third parties.


You've read it wrong kerushi, its a confusing sentence with alot of negatives, but it is saying essentially:

CCP does not garantee that personal info <snip> will not be disclosed to third parties.

They DON'T garantee that they WON'T disclose info.

Meaning that they can if they want to.

It's a confusing sentence and i advise CCP to revise it and make it clearer, but CCP can do whatever it wants with your e-mail adress.

if that`s true, lets just give out every one`s info to every one

this clause is ment to protect our information from being given out, lets just remove it completly Rolling Eyes

Daniel Jackson
Caldari
Planet Watchers
Posted - 2006.12.22 03:28:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 22/12/2006 03:28:31
i got the mail WooT !!!

its was a very long survay like 2 houres long


but ya i also hope that EVE starts getting advertised in the USA on TV and etc cause no people u know of in real life plays the game :P

Voltaire Leriel
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2006.12.22 04:10:00 - [24]
 

Yeah, I never met people IRL who played until i went to Fanfest '06 :D

Dal Thrax
Perkone
Posted - 2006.12.22 06:03:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Daniel Jackson
Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 22/12/2006 03:28:31
i got the mail WooT !!!

its was a very long survay like 2 houres long


but ya i also hope that EVE starts getting advertised in the USA on TV and etc cause no people u know of in real life plays the game :P


Still no E-mail here in either normal or bulk folders. Hum I'm at a yahoo email address, I wonder if for some reason Harris isn't sending to Yahoo and the like.

TheFirstInquisitor
Posted - 2006.12.22 12:55:00 - [26]
 

If I am reading it right, then CCP could be breaching some EU rules if it send out our mails. However, Iceland isn`t a part of the EU because of fishing quotas (this could change after yesterdays announcement but i didnt look into it too deeply) so may be exempt from this. Besides, if a USA playerbase starts to come in from mass advertising they will be inferior to the EU playerbase because they have 4 years of catchup and experience to work on. Are they planning on making an American server or just trying to take the fight to Blizzards stronghold?...

Eskalin
Minmatar
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2006.12.22 13:53:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Eskalin on 22/12/2006 13:56:28
I'm a us player and I'm kind of annoyed that i got this survey in my email i don't like spam and this is something i definitely see as spam. i understand if ccp was conducting a survey fine i wouldn't take it anyway but to give out my email i feel just a bit butt sore. well hope they paid well for it time to get a new email addressMad spelling4tl

Kourg
Posted - 2006.12.22 14:48:00 - [28]
 

DANGER!!!! CCP, don't do this. Don't end up like SWG and SOE. This is a great game. Continue to develope the game with your own free creative minds and by being in touch with ALL of your players. EVE has made it this far with no help from bullsh*t marketing and focus group a-holes. There's no reason to turn down that dark, deseptive and gready road now.
"Easier to play" and "more actiony" will destroy this game. DON'T DO IT.

U.S. player by the way and by no means a great pvp'er, but I wouldn't dumb down a thing.

Please everyone who sees this reconize it for what it is. Don't take it lightly. Protest loadly, scream bloody murder.

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2006.12.22 22:54:00 - [29]
 

I filled it out. I was kind of surprised by my answers tbh. I realized that I'm steadily playing Eve less and less. Why? Because of changes like Warp to 0km and probe nerfs reducing my opportunities to kill other players. in short, the game play changes have nerfed solo piracy a great deal and it's greatly affecting my game play. Quite lame.

And as for the guys commenting about US players liking only PVE: I'm in the US and I filled out my survey 100% pro PVP, and 100% anti PVE. So PVP votes are safe with US players Wink.

Ductoris


ISD YARR
Posted - 2006.12.23 01:25:00 - [30]
 

I just finished mine, note, if you fill it all out you can view the collective results, which are interesting....


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