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Ikanex
Posted - 2006.12.14 17:54:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Ikanex on 14/12/2006 17:55:22
helps if i add some content... anyway..

what i mean is that why isnt it setup so that when a bpo is released, you can enter x amount of rps at a chance of winning the bpo, and if you dont win, all of the entered RPs are lost?

i think itd help with the current way things are, where some people have ungodly amounts of rp saved up.

Benco97
Gallente
Terraprobe Dynamics
Posted - 2006.12.14 17:56:00 - [2]
 

Because that would be too fair, all BPOs must go to the same few people, didn't you know that? ;p

Redart
Paxton Industries
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2006.12.14 17:59:00 - [3]
 

I def. think it should be based on if you've been playing for more than say 6months and paying the whole time.

All the T2 Lottery does is reward people who have alts specifically designed for R&D, which mean they already make quite a bit of money and probably already have a few T2 BPOs from the first lottery.

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.14 18:01:00 - [4]
 

It'd be a lovely idea, but its well past that now. You can't change it this late in the game. If you changed it now, all you'd be doing is stripping the few people who win a T2 BPO from now on of most of their RP, while those who have already won them (like the big cartels) STILL have all their RP for the next big draw.

Nice idea, but a few years too late Razz

Azrael Bierce
Epsilon Lyr
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2006.12.14 18:04:00 - [5]
 

pfft.

RP should be just like LP. Pick an agent, pick a speciality, run missions to increase RP, buy the BPO you want after you put the effort into acquiring it.

The lottery needs to DIAF imo.

Letouk Mernel
Caldari
Posted - 2006.12.14 18:24:00 - [6]
 

Yeah, except they don't want a "drop rate" system, where you're guaranteed a BPO if you just put in enough time / camp it / do enough missions. Most MMO's do that, but CCP wanted to manually seed BPO's, so they could go for years without seeding anything. Meanwhile, you accumulate RP's for... vaporware.

Xthril Ranger
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.12.14 19:27:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Ikanex
Edited by: Ikanex on 14/12/2006 17:55:22
helps if i add some content... anyway..

what i mean is that why isnt it setup so that when a bpo is released, you can enter x amount of rps at a chance of winning the bpo, and if you dont win, all of the entered RPs are lost?



it is , you enter x amount of hours getting the required standing , you enter y amounts of hours of skill training and you get a unknown chance at winning a bpo. ugh

Necronomicon
Caldari
The Weasels of Doom
Posted - 2006.12.14 19:33:00 - [8]
 

Because that is the way it is, the same players get the handouts time after time. I do not know what qualifies them for it, but whatever the 'luck' code is assigned to an account, it aint assigned to mine ;)

Wild Rho
Amarr
Silent Core
Posted - 2006.12.14 19:38:00 - [9]
 

This is the most fair way they can do this. Any other system will lead to accusations of favouritism.

While it seems like the same few people are getting the bpos it could simply come down to the fact they have spent alot of time getting ALOT of agents in different fields increasing their odds.

An example was a post earlier, someone said they had 37 agents running. That really tips the odds in a players favour.

Synapse Archae
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2006.12.14 20:05:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Redart
I def. think it should be based on if you've been playing for more than say 6months and paying the whole time.

All the T2 Lottery does is reward people who have alts specifically designed for R&D, which mean they already make quite a bit of money and probably already have a few T2 BPOs from the first lottery.


QFT and it makes me very sad :(
I really wish this system had been implimented better.

Shakuul
Caldari
RuffRyders
Axiom Empire
Posted - 2006.12.15 01:17:00 - [11]
 

Don't you pay for tickets in real lotteries?

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2006.12.15 02:02:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Necronomicon
Because that is the way it is, the same players get the handouts time after time. I do not know what qualifies them for it, but whatever the 'luck' code is assigned to an account, it aint assigned to mine ;)


High charisma.

Trotski II
Rasta Tropical Club
Posted - 2006.12.15 02:41:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Trotski II on 15/12/2006 02:42:48
Because the way things are is better for CCP.

People setup accounts (or they did in the early days of EVE) just to have better odds. More cash for little hardware resources needed. Then they got the prints and got gazilionaire. That helps fuel GTC because if ISK is easy you are willing to give more ISK for real $$$. So people who don´t like PvE start thinking maybe i better work one extra hour at my 9 to 5 job instead of rat/mine/mission 10x more time in my already limited play time.

Of course this is just a generalization but even alone all those extra accounts just to farm RP are nice. Log once every 6/7 days when there´s a loterry going on and no other activity other time.

BPO shouldn´t be farmed by doing a million of missions or any other think that could be classified as grinding but they also shouldn´t be handled by paying, idling and waiting,waiting,waiting.

Anyway this is old news. Nothing new to here.

PS: I´m not acusing CCP of setuping this "evil" plan on purpose but that´s what it turned out to be.

Oarta
Posted - 2006.12.15 02:50:00 - [14]
 

The way they have it set up now the advantage goes to the one with the most accounts. This is more lucrative fiscally then setting up a system which would require continual work to obtain RP, for instance like LP. While this method does tip the favor to those with more accounts, inside the game if you look at each character as an individual it is a fair system. It also gives you the opportunity to double the rate of RP you get if you choose to do missions for your research agents.

Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited
Posted - 2006.12.15 03:58:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Azrael Bierce
pfft.

RP should be just like LP. Pick an agent, pick a speciality, run missions to increase RP, buy the BPO you want after you put the effort into acquiring it.

The lottery needs to DIAF imo.


DIAF? I know DAHD (Die A Horrible Death). But, yes, I agree the lottery should go.

T2 BPOs hard to get, but more on the market over time = good.

Kedryn Caitin
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2006.12.15 04:18:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Andargor theWise
Originally by: Azrael Bierce
pfft.

RP should be just like LP. Pick an agent, pick a speciality, run missions to increase RP, buy the BPO you want after you put the effort into acquiring it.

The lottery needs to DIAF imo.


DIAF? I know DAHD (Die A Horrible Death). But, yes, I agree the lottery should go.

T2 BPOs hard to get, but more on the market over time = good.



I would guess it is Die In A Fire.

I wish they would have only released BPCs in the lottery and not BPOs. Have an automated report that would pull used BPCs and reseed it to the lottery. More people would have more chances to win and the isk would be spread around. Those that want to corner the market would have to spend out isk for limited runs instead of increasing thier unlimited BPO collection.

Of course the ones that were already won would need to be converted for best results and this will never happen. But at least making the change to BPCs would help release some of the anger between the two groups and open up the market to more industrialists.

If invention was all it was suppose to be in the minds of the masses, it would not matter so much. Hopefully we will see some tweaks there after the world settles down some.


 

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