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Realypk
Dawn of Fire
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:11:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Realypk on 11/12/2006 09:16:23
Ok guys i used to make around 30m an hour ratting in 0.0, recently after the revelations patch thats all gone to hell. I made 16 m in 6 hours.... this really stinks. I've checked with almost everyone else i know that rats, and they admit they never get good spawns anymore all they get is crappy spawns that are worth jack crap...

I can no longer afford to rat and pvp, this is pretty screwed up.....

darklegionca
Caldari
Dark Deliverance Holdings
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:16:00 - [2]
 

dont worry i have called the wahblance for you it will be here shortly

Realypk
Dawn of Fire
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:17:00 - [3]
 

what is a whablance?

Exiled One
Amarr
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:17:00 - [4]
 

Panic Button?. Question

Realypk
Dawn of Fire
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:19:00 - [5]
 

I dunno i just cant make money any more and am kinda distraught..... i might have to get rid of my combat chars and get to mining again... which i really really hate....

Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Tague Corp
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:20:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Realypk
I dunno i just cant make money any more and am kinda distraught..... i might have to get rid of my combat chars and get to mining again... which i really really hate....


Or wait until Wednesdays patch?

Realypk
Dawn of Fire
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:22:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Realypk on 11/12/2006 09:21:56
whats gonna happen in wednesdays patch? that would make ratting a viable way of making isk again?

KingKenny
Minmatar
Warp Core Tech
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:27:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Realypk
Edited by: Realypk on 11/12/2006 09:21:56
whats gonna happen in wednesdays patch? that would make ratting a viable way of making isk again?


I think you will find the salvage drop rate will increase for the larger ships. People need this stuff to make rigs.

It will however take some time for the value of these items to stabalise on the market.

Just give it time.

Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Tague Corp
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:29:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Realypk
Edited by: Realypk on 11/12/2006 09:21:56
whats gonna happen in wednesdays patch? that would make ratting a viable way of making isk again?


Dunno tbh. Doesn't look like it now I actually look at the patchnotes.

Belt Ratting's been way better for me personally since Kali, theres so many more Belt NPC'ers in 0.0 with nice loot since WTZ was introduced.

Miss Overlord
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:39:00 - [10]
 

guristas have been nerfed - serpentis have had about a 20% boost blood raiders are steady and angels have been boosted slightly not sure about sanshas maybe youre current system had its true sec status altered

Lootcatcher
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:40:00 - [11]
 

Check your corp taxes, maybe your CEO went overboard and put it at 75% or something Razz

Realypk
Dawn of Fire
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:40:00 - [12]
 

see i'm talkin bountys... i almost never see good bounty rats anymore :( i always seem to get triple 800k and triple 650k when i used to get triple 1.8m's :(

when i kill them to work up to the 1.8 like it used to be i almost never get a better spawn, most of the time it actually degrades the spawn!!! Loot is meh since i never get good bs spawns any more.... I've gone all around, and everyone i know that rats confirms the above....

I think they may have seriously nerfed ratting in favour of that stupid exploration crap...

Xsag
Caldari
Red Galaxy
S I L E N T.
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:50:00 - [13]
 

ive noticed a drop in loot drops but it does seem variable - i had a really good night last night but that was the first night in a few tbh

James Duar
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:51:00 - [14]
 

You know I've lived with ratting 500k - 950k battleship rats for a while. I can easily make 10 mill ISK in about 2 hours.

Realypk
Dawn of Fire
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:54:00 - [15]
 

I used to make 30m in one hour..... thats been completley shot to hell... guristas suck hard core now :(

Chewan Mesa
Resurrection
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:55:00 - [16]
 

Stop whining, the spawns are as always.

Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:58:00 - [17]
 

a drop in the amount of income will just mean that sellers will need to drop their prices in order to sell. So, in the end, all will stablise back to normal.

Economics is great, innit? Razz

DeckardIRL
The Randoms
Posted - 2006.12.11 09:59:00 - [18]
 

It must be your system- could have been downgraded since Kali. We are getting regular and good spawns- probably more Shadow spawns than previously. We are also getting good salvage. Although salvage does slow down ratting processes we are looking to have a corp looter and salvager so that the ratters just keep killing and the corp pleb comes along and cleans up the belt in an exequror.

Deck

Nicholai Pestot
Gallente
Scorpanti Corporation
Posted - 2006.12.11 10:01:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Chewan Mesa
Stop whining, the spawns are as always.


I would have to disagree.

In syndicate,at least, the serp spawns in a typical system before Kali woul consist of 3 or 4 BS spawns (single or double) and 2 or 3 Battle cruiser/Cruiser spawns.

Since Kali the same typical system is hard pushed to produce even one battleship spawn.

This doesn't bother me too much as i have other sources of income YARRRR!! but it does indicate that things are not 'as always'

Chewan Mesa
Resurrection
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2006.12.11 10:04:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Chewan Mesa on 11/12/2006 10:03:56
I cant really comment on other parts of space, but since the OP was complaining about Guristas, I threw my 2 cents in, since the gurista-spawns have certainly not changed in the north.

Dracolich
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
Posted - 2006.12.11 10:04:00 - [21]
 

Ratting for 6 hours... Ratting is close to be as boring as mining. Fly something cheaper, maybe?

Realypk
Dawn of Fire
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2006.12.11 10:12:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Realypk on 11/12/2006 10:13:26
I'm north as well... been to 5-6 different systems between -.87 and -.1 all had the same results :(


I have asked other ratters in systems.. all they are gettin are obliterators now...

Moonlord
Royal Norwegian Navy
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2006.12.11 10:20:00 - [23]
 

"guristas have been nerfed - serpentis have had about a 20% boost blood raiders are steady and angels have been boosted slightly not sure about sanshas maybe youre current system had its true sec status altered"
No, guristas now have their cap power relays boosted to huge values, same goes with pdu. They also have HAM's wich goes for insane amounts. Its not all in the bounties, u have to look at what u get from them aswell (I dont count faction and officers in these calculations)

James Duar
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.12.11 10:30:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Dracolich
Ratting for 6 hours... Ratting is close to be as boring as mining. Fly something cheaper, maybe?

This man is quite right.

Ishmael Hansen
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2006.12.11 10:49:00 - [25]
 

you were making to much isk, c'mon only tech 2 owners allowed to earn isk in eve.

Wars need to be won, and they usually are won by the people with better technology and more isk to spend, lvl 4 mission were nerfed because of whiners who complained about empire people making isk, eventho I rat in 0.0 for my isk it's only natural that it ended up catching us.

Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
Posted - 2006.12.11 10:54:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Nicholai Pestot
Originally by: Chewan Mesa
Stop whining, the spawns are as always.


I would have to disagree.

In syndicate,at least, the serp spawns in a typical system before Kali woul consist of 3 or 4 BS spawns (single or double) and 2 or 3 Battle cruiser/Cruiser spawns.

Since Kali the same typical system is hard pushed to produce even one battleship spawn.

This doesn't bother me too much as i have other sources of income YARRRR!! but it does indicate that things are not 'as always'


Agree'd. Down in Stain there's been a heavy drop in spawns, and we're seeing almost no Tyrant or Overlord spawns anymore, and the spawn rate is just down right silly (2 hours for a re-spawn).

Akiman
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2006.12.11 11:08:00 - [27]
 

nah not that bad...but yeah its 'nerfed'

Plutoinum
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2006.12.11 11:11:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Plutoinum on 11/12/2006 11:12:11
Couldn't try ratting so far, bloody war.

But my guess is that it has become even easier to make isk in crappy systems/regions, because we can spawn our private complexes via exploration, as I understand it. Haven't also had the time to try that one of course. But my guess is that it's become easier to make isk with doing PvE stuff for many players, who depended on ratting and didn't have access to the uber systems. It probably also has drawbacks, if that's the case (farming). We'll see. Cool

Zaphod Jones
Minmatar
The Real OC
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2006.12.11 11:11:00 - [29]
 

I think the OP really just needs a big hug Rolling Eyes

Wadaya
Trailerpark Industries
Posted - 2006.12.11 11:17:00 - [30]
 

Or the sweatshop he works at wonders why his isk quota is down :)


Wad



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