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Jinx Barker
Caldari
GFB Scientific
Posted - 2006.12.07 03:37:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: MissileRus
Edited by: MissileRus on 07/12/2006 03:12:27
i would like to see NPC haulers jumping gates and transporting stuff, i would like to see pirates being able to take them down, and you can even escort them to keep the transport safe. since players dont seem to be willing to transport things if your not paying them 2x the price of the thing you bought or even more id like to see something like this someday...

i dont like the ideas of instant delivery Neutral

edit: the skillbook changes for regions to claim in sounds needed though Smile


Instant delivery? I would agree with you that it would be silly. But not being able to Bid/Buy/Claim a public contract just because you are not in the region is pretty bad IMO. Once you got the contract, then you can send an ALT or go there yourself to pick it up, right now it is impossible to claim anything outside of your current regional location. That is the main issue.

Clone Betta
Posted - 2006.12.07 03:50:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: MissileRus

Instant delivery? I would agree with you that it would be silly. But not being able to Bid/Buy/Claim a public contract just because you are not in the region is pretty bad IMO. Once you got the contract, then you can send an ALT or go there yourself to pick it up, right now it is impossible to claim anything outside of your current regional location. That is the main issue.


I think you can. open up contracts, under "view" select a different region, then the get "contracts" button. right click on one your interested in and click on the place bid option. use the simple view.

Letouk Mernel
Caldari
Posted - 2006.12.07 04:04:00 - [63]
 

If you're gonna "supersize" might as well do it faction-wide (the whole Caldari space, f.ex.).

Question about loans, since I haven't checked yet, can I set it up so that someone borrows 1 mil, and have to pay back 110k monthly, and if they miss a payment they forfeit the collateral item?

Herculite
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.12.07 04:13:00 - [64]
 

"- Use the market skill for the contracts like we do for market for claiming/bidding etc."

Crying or Very sad

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.12.07 04:42:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Allen Deckard
Sorry but aint no way I am flying to jita to place a stupid bid on an auction that is going to be up for 5 days.

I can see ur domination warp scrambler I want to buy it but sorry not goin to jita.

Why not just call it "the market" thats all it is only difference I see is I cant see the prices in other regions on the market and I can with contracts.

Was it that much of an issue to let me buy in other regions?



Don't you need to go to the location to make the pickup anyway?

And what are you doing bidding a week before the end?

Deikan Frost
Amarr
Posted - 2006.12.07 05:13:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: Deikan Frost on 07/12/2006 05:13:23
Originally by: Oveur
We're considering a couple of things here, which are both specific to market and contracts.

- Super-regions. Some regions are simply dead, others flourish. Group them together to make super-regions. It decreases the cross-region trading enabled by obscurity. On the other hand distance is a factor and it might decrease the high margins you find, but the volume due to increased visibility might counter this (and show sellers new market more easily. This applies to both contracts and market.

- Use the market skill for the contracts like we do for market for claiming/bidding etc.

- Interbus transport. Inside Constellations you can pay extra for "instantaneous" delivery, longer than that you would be offered to create a courier contract which would have insured delivery by Interbus if a player hasn't transported it within X days (insert any kind of range and criterias here, just examples). This could diffuse the single-system hubs entirely, having them on a constellation level.

Now, these things aren't mutually exclusive or need to all to go in, you can think about combinations between these, tinker with ranges and criteria etc. but it's food for thought.
I really like the concepts there, as long as the Interbus fee isn't too cheap so that people will think twice before using it. As much as it would be nice to see the prices equalize a little throughout a given region (instead of having it cheap in the central systems, and expensive in borders), I think the Interbus idea could be "dangerous" if it's too easily accessible. Maybe make it for orders of a certain size only (as in, don't allow the Interbus option for packages below a certain size, or below a certain jump range). There's a good potential with the idea though, I like it!

Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.12.07 06:05:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Wild Rho

Originally by: Oveur

- Use the market skill for the contracts like we do for market for claiming/bidding etc.


Anything that makes charisma a more useful attribute in skill training is good \o/


That kind of reasoning got leadership specialists 3million skillpoints to train before parity with what they had 2 weeks ago. For the love of God please don't say things like this again.

MissileRus
Posted - 2006.12.07 16:04:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Jinx Barker

Instant delivery? I would agree with you that it would be silly. But not being able to Bid/Buy/Claim a public contract just because you are not in the region is pretty bad IMO. Once you got the contract, then you can send an ALT or go there yourself to pick it up, right now it is impossible to claim anything outside of your current regional location. That is the main issue.


well you can claim/bid and buy... but you wont get the stuff at your doorstep if you know what i mean, that would be so wrong.. Sad

Ghoest
Posted - 2006.12.07 16:06:00 - [69]
 

Isnt the obvious answer to just stick an alt in Jita with a wad of cash?

I thought everyone was doing that now.

MORRS
Posted - 2006.12.10 17:58:00 - [70]
 

I personally do not want to trade in hell hole Jita and it seems that is what is forced on us. Just recently I put a contract up and it cost me over 300k for one BPC at 12 mil, why?

I have 400 cap component, BS, BC, cap mod bpc's to sell and haven't been able to sell a thing since patch. The old escrow system was fine as it was. It had it's faults but enlarge it was great for selling bpc's.

I am currently running 5 full time accounts and I can tell you this is a game breaker for me. for the first time in 3 years I have no desire to log on and play. While I did production, built cap ships, mining, missions, R&D and other aspects of the game; they all revolved around the escrow system to sell my products.

While there are some nice features in the new system and thy should stay and improved, I want the old system back which was quick and easy. Good sorting and you could post all your stuff. YOu could get price references and it was global. It has it's faults but over all it was great system for a reseller and selling bpc's.

There is no reason to be charging exhorbenant amount of isk to use contracts. 300k for a 12 mil item? That is ludicrous. Why do you want us all to sell in Jita?

Even if I were to sell in Jita, to limit me to 13 contracts is insane. I know I am probably repeating what others have said but I am really frustrated with the game right now and my desire to play is diminishing. I do not want to quit game, I want to play as I have had over the years with an escrow system that is global, easy to use and not isk farming me.

Valgore Xizor
Minmatar
The Xizor Cartel
Posted - 2006.12.10 18:24:00 - [71]
 

One thing you could do in the short term.

1. Create a new Caldari character in a free slot (assuming you have one)
2. Transfer some pocket money to your new character.
3. Log on to your new character - default region Jita
4. Place bid with new character, log off, log on your main character, play.

YOu can monitor the auction with your main and should you wish to add a bid, just log on your new char and bid.

El Covah
LOCKDOWN.
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2006.12.10 18:26:00 - [72]
 

Can't we just get escrow back plz ?

Zelea Zinc
Posted - 2006.12.10 19:58:00 - [73]
 

Simple fix to the Jita problem: Tax the HELL out of the sellers. I mean let it be rediculous. Simply set it so that the taxes in a region rise as the market volume increases, and falls when it decreases. That would encourage markets in other regions at the very least.

MORRS
Posted - 2006.12.11 03:41:00 - [74]
 

Quote:
Can't we just get escrow back plz ?


Exactly, now your talking!

Azrael Maxim
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.12.11 05:33:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: El Covah
Can't we just get escrow back plz ?


In light of this remark can we keep contracts, as they are great for auctions and other stuff, and can we have escrow on top of that.

It would be great to have 3 systems to trade with.





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