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General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards.
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:20:00 - [1]
 

Ive seen other threads like this I would like to start a new. This is my first whine thread and I dont like cheese.

The new map:
+ Graphics
+ New features, staions etc easely navigated now.

- Orientation, why isnt my POV saved each time I load the map. Why is the map aligned sideways when opening it?

- It seems it requiers a powerfull computer to run smoothly. I can play halflife 2 on this comp without problems but I cant navigate EvE world map without clicking wrong systems and loose my orientation cause my mouse "laggs" so badly.

- The system map is gone from scanner window. Again I loose my orientation, Yes I think its good that I know where the planets are and related to each other. No I dont have time to press F10 to wait for nice graphic map to load when Im about to scan ppl to kill. F11 works but it also gives you a nice galaxy map and a so usuable constellation map \o/ and it takes 1/4 of the screen.

- Generally harder to make out how the world map is. Smaller dots, smaller lines. You would think it would make it easier but for some reason it gets my head spinning.

The improovements are ok. Especially the new features but IMO its not worth the cost. If devs would consider brining old map back atleast as an option I would for one be really happy. EvE always was easely navigated despite beeing a world in 3d, it isnt anymore.

PeveS
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:22:00 - [2]
 

signed

Draconia Blackheart
Disciples of the Underverse
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:23:00 - [3]
 

I report as a bug the lack of keeping it 'flattened' when you want it flattened. I have to click the 'Unflatten' then 'flatten' again to get that setting back (until the next time opened) I do like the new info on the map though




Zubenelgenubi
Priory of the Lime
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:24:00 - [4]
 

Yes it doesn't save "flattened or not flattened" option chosen by the user :<

Troye
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:27:00 - [5]
 

I hate whinning but i also hate the new map. The pretty zoom gettings boring after a while, id rather a map that just did its job rather than doing cool zooms all over the place.

General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards.
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:27:00 - [6]
 

Aye the flattening thing aswell.

And that reminds me of another -

The map rotates back and forth when closing it. Skip this animation plz, just make it close instantly.

Savio
Caldari
Age of Honour
OWN Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:30:00 - [7]
 

I love the new map but then again my computer aint 5 years old :P

MysticNZ
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:31:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: General Coochie
Skip this animation plz, just make it close instantly.


Yeah, in the middle of battle and I have to wait 5yrs for the map to close :/ should be an option to turn the animations off.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:34:00 - [9]
 

I like the zoom animation, but when you're scanning systems for war targets that can see you in local, every second counts. There should be an option to turn it off.

Zebler
Space Chimps
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:35:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Zebler on 03/12/2006 23:35:01
signed.

Love the map, it looks fantastic, and I really want it to stay in game.

What I would dearly love is for an option to disable the fancy stuff for when i am in space and need to access info quickly.

Maj Woodcock
Minmatar
United Space Aillance USA
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:35:00 - [11]
 

Crying or Very sad
Very very pertty but very very useless.
Bring back the old map. there was nothing wrong with it!!

SIGNED

General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards.
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:38:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Savio
I love the new map but then again my computer aint 5 years old :P


I think its stuipid to implent something that put a strain on computers that this game originally was designed to work for. All other aspects of EvE work excellent for me at best graphics. Must be one of the first games ever where its actually the map the puts the strain on the computer not the everyday battles, exploisions etc.

Maya Rkell
Third Grade Ergonomics
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:41:00 - [13]
 

The brightness changes make it near impossible to see lines on CRT's. CCP, PLEASE test on screens other than LCD's!

Kayle Ki
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:41:00 - [14]
 

I like a lot of stuff with it, but I don't like the black background and smaller lines/dots. The new map hurts my eyes.

d026
temp holding
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:42:00 - [15]
 

signed

Silent Star
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:45:00 - [16]
 

New map has terrible user experience. It's pretty, but that is about it. Takes way too long to play the animation making it useless in dangerous space.

Fren Mallow
Gallente
Bluestar Enterprises
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:46:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Maya Rkell
The brightness changes make it near impossible to see lines on CRT's. CCP, PLEASE test on screens other than LCD's!


On tft's the lines darker than before also.. ;)

Must have to do something with the drwaing method.. looks more like 3d-vectors now, instead the good old flat-lines, they used in the old map.. :(

Cheers

PS: I sign the demand for a simple map, like the old one, without this animations stuff.. even "instant" takes ages.. :(

Znaei
Caldari
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:47:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: MysticNZ
Originally by: General Coochie
Skip this animation plz, just make it close instantly.


Yeah, in the middle of battle and I have to wait 5yrs for the map to close :/ should be an option to turn the animations off.


Why would you open your map in the middle of a battle? Shocked

Savio
Caldari
Age of Honour
OWN Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:47:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Maya Rkell
The brightness changes make it near impossible to see lines on CRT's. CCP, PLEASE test on screens other than LCD's!


looks fine on my crt screen.. try to setup your monitor proberly? contrast/brightness

Dar Wento
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:48:00 - [20]
 

Signed.

There were absolutly nothing wrong with the old one and it was easy to read and easy to use.

I love the new system map, but please let us have the old and working starmap back.

Regards,

/Dar.

Dahak2150
Arm of Orion
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:50:00 - [21]
 

New map looks great, yeah.

But that's it.

Otherwise it just drags my framerate way down. The always-on stars don't do anything for me visually, except drain my FPS further. The zoom animation is annoying because my computer doesn't display it, just lags from it.

I'd also like to be able to toggle the animation when you reset your camera in the regular window. This zoom around the ship before coming back is annoying as it just further taxes my system, and takes time to respond, making me click the button 3 or 4 times just to get the camera to come back.

Gonada
The Scope
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:51:00 - [22]
 

new map is awsome. doesnt bother me a bit, cept the flattening thing.

good work ccp.

Rumbaar
Solitary Forsaken
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:53:00 - [23]
 

I agree I don't like the new universe map.

1. It doesn't remember position
2. Is upside down and the wrong way around each time I open it.
3. It hangs and then pops up this window which doesn't help when trying to set destinations.


The fact that when you set the map to the 'correct' orientation you don't have much movement to move around as it's on the opposite side.

The zoom out to system and then universe was interesting the first 2 or 3 times, now it's annoying. Specially if you go to warp or want to move back into the ship view again.

Darcie Wray
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:57:00 - [24]
 

YOU CAN TURN THE ANIMATIONS OFF, PEOPLE. LEARN HOW TO USE IT BEFORE YOU WHINE ABOUT IT. Thank you. Smile

PS: Revelations brought MANY changes. Some thingsare DIFFERENT but that does not mean they are worse than before. Trust the developers a little and change the way you think. I, like many of you, also had to adjust to the new changes and guess what? 95% of the changes, bar the bugs, are actually are BETTER than how it worked before!

Yes, there are bugs. Please report them. Yes, a few features that could be tweaked slightly. Dont whine about them. Bug report, post about them in a constructive manner.

General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards.
Posted - 2006.12.04 00:02:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: General Coochie on 04/12/2006 00:08:12
Edited by: General Coochie on 04/12/2006 00:06:04
Originally by: Darcie Wray
YOU CAN TURN THE ANIMATIONS OFF, PEOPLE. LEARN HOW TO USE IT BEFORE YOU WHINE ABOUT IT. Thank you. Smile



Hmmm I look at my settings just now and its defenently turned off. Still the map goes "zoomgshh" rotates right "swwooooosh" makes a 180 degree flip and after a couple of seconds "snip" closes after pressing the F10 button.

TBH I think the map is so bad navigating that I never use it anymore to get an idea of my surroundings. I just roam the systems I know by typing in destination and go there with waypoints help.

I am convinced it will improve cause it cannot stay like this. But I still want the option of using the old map.

edit: spelling

edit 2: A Linky for you Darcie

Murtac
Posted - 2006.12.04 00:03:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Darcie Wray
YOU CAN TURN THE ANIMATIONS OFF, PEOPLE. LEARN HOW TO USE IT BEFORE YOU WHINE ABOUT IT. Thank you. Smile
[...]



You can turn *some* of them off, not all. Learn to check if the pretty buttons actually do what they say before you shout at people about it.

PS. Your caps lock key is stuck.

Maya Rkell
Third Grade Ergonomics
Posted - 2006.12.04 00:06:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Savio
Originally by: Maya Rkell
The brightness changes make it near impossible to see lines on CRT's. CCP, PLEASE test on screens other than LCD's!


looks fine on my crt screen.. try to setup your monitor proberly? contrast/brightness


My CRT is properly calibrated. In fact, I use a brightness/colour matching program because I need accurate colours in photoshop. Also, just because YOU do not have an issue does not mean that other *different* monitors don't have issues.

DefJam101
Gallente
Monolithic.
Advocated Destruction
Posted - 2006.12.04 00:07:00 - [28]
 

/signed if they make the "zoom out" feature zoom faster, too slow.

Verus Potestas
Caldari
SP4RTANS
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2006.12.04 00:08:00 - [29]
 

Signed.

We had an excellent map system, and it's been replaced by a mediocre one.

GoldHorn
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.12.04 00:15:00 - [30]
 

Signed, and while u are at it bring the old escrow back.





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