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Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:04:00 - [1]
 

for the love of God call the logistics ship primary!

Do you have any idea how much armor that Oneiros can remote rep? A LOT!

BLOW IT UP FIRST


Max Teranous
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:10:00 - [2]
 

Bob might as well quit now TBH, now that your tactical genius has ripped their plan to shreds.

Jebidus Skari
Comply Or Die
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:11:00 - [3]
 

Could work but I'd be surprised if there wasn't a decent plan to also keep it alive.

Verus Potestas
Caldari
SP4RTANS
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:11:00 - [4]
 

I have a feeling that BoB would be expecting that, and it would near impossible to kill...

Roxanna Kell
Anormalii S.A.
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:12:00 - [5]
 

Calling the oneiros primary for damage is a gamble.

Reason: High Resistances, Low sig radius, and iam pretty sure it has a HALO full set.
or slave.
If it has Halo set, good luck butter dog, butter brain.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:28:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Butter Dog on 02/12/2006 20:35:05

Originally by: Verus Potestas
I have a feeling that BoB would be expecting that, and it would near impossible to kill...


Dude, its the only ship with a remote armor rep bonus. THINK ABOUT IT.

I know how much one can rep with good skills, and to be honest, its scary. You won't kill one of their ships with an Onieros alive.

In theory, with max skills, it can remote rep more than SEVERAL LARGE reppers (I think the same as 3 or 4 large armor reps). So kill it first.


Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz' aar K'in
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:56:00 - [7]
 

Well last tournament saw a Scimitar with a Halo set, I believe, and that thing *was* impossible to kill.

But the attempt should probably have been made.

Oh noes, I'm in a BoB thread. *flame suit on*

Derrios
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:57:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Max Teranous
Bob might as well quit now TBH, now that your tactical genius has ripped their plan to shreds.



slash chortle

Troubadour
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.12.02 20:58:00 - [9]
 

I was reluctant to post because i don't bother with flame wars, but WE COULD NOT LOCK ****. our drones auto-aggroed and went off and did whatever they wanted. bob damped the crap out of us. The onerios was infact primary along with the celes. But that plan went out the window when all of our lockranges were reduced to 4 km and 50 seconds. even with remote boosting it was futile. Good job on bob's part, i don't blame them for going on the defense, it works.

TWD
Evolution
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.12.02 21:06:00 - [10]
 

Yeah make the logistics ship primary!

reg keeper
Amarr
IRL Research
Posted - 2006.12.02 21:13:00 - [11]
 

Dont you lads with millions in missle skills ever take a few FoF missles along?
Come on at least you would be hitting somthing until you got a lock on a target.
Still im not in the tourney so i dont ge the pressure of fitting before going against the current Champs.

HuDDy
Ninjutsu Assassins Inc
THE UNTHINKABLES
Posted - 2006.12.02 21:19:00 - [12]
 

Your a tactical mastermind Butters someone should employ u to run a team Rolling Eyes

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Weirda
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.12.02 21:50:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: reg keeper
Dont you lads with millions in missle skills ever take a few FoF missles along?
Come on at least you would be hitting somthing until you got a lock on a target.
Still im not in the tourney so i dont ge the pressure of fitting before going against the current Champs.

day one fof and drones (not all - but enough) were going after LeMonde and EvETV cameras... they said they are 'unlockable' today, but neither of those weapons need a lock...

Rift Scorn
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.12.02 21:54:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: reg keeper
Dont you lads with millions in missle skills ever take a few FoF missles along?.


FoF are great at spray and pray. Thats about it though... and have you ever tried spamming FoF's when there's gazillion drones around you? Try it and get back to me on the results from that one.

so yes, plz make the logistics primary, and plz use FoF's.

ookke
GreenSwarm
Black Legion.
Posted - 2006.12.02 21:56:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Weirda

day one fof and drones (not all - but enough) were going after LeMonde and EvETV cameras... they said they are 'unlockable' today, but neither of those weapons need a lock...


Yepp, i personally got two sec hits for attacking lemondes vagabond(with autoagressing drones??) and our fof NH was also successfully spamming his main part of missiles on him Laughing

And to the OP, the oneiros does indeed stay in the background where it's impossible to lock when you are damped to hell and back by the other bob ships :)

Roxanna Kell
Anormalii S.A.
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.02 21:58:00 - [16]
 

we seen the McGreedy files, any plans for the Butter Brain files?

ASIV TRE
FREE GATES
HUN Reloaded
Posted - 2006.12.02 22:00:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Calling the oneiros primary for damage is a gamble.

Reason: High Resistances, Low sig radius, and iam pretty sure it has a HALO full set.
or slave.
If it has Halo set, good luck butter dog, butter brain.


Yep with a FG Halo set you would have a sig radius of about 38 on that ship.

Zrevak Ashek
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
Posted - 2006.12.02 23:43:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
for the love of God call the logistics ship primary!

Do you have any idea how much armor that Oneiros can remote rep? A LOT!

BLOW IT UP FIRST




Quote:
Dont you lads with millions in missle skills ever take a few FoF missles along?
Come on at least you would be hitting somthing until you got a lock on a target.
Still im not in the tourney so i dont ge the pressure of fitting before going against the current Champs.


..and this is exactly why you dont fight in the tournamet and aren't called into the studio as expert commentariesWink

Eldo Davip


ISD YARR
Posted - 2006.12.02 23:45:00 - [19]
 

Play nice on the forums people, refrain from flaming.

dalman
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.12.03 00:12:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Smagd
Well last tournament saw a Scimitar with a Halo set, I believe, and that thing *was* impossible to kill.

The only way to kill BoB's team in the last tournament was very simple.

A Nos team that they didn't predict. (nos-team means lots of nossing - to nos both the scimitar and at least one of the CNR/vulture)

One team was going to kill them with a nos-setup BoB didn't expect, but for some reasons didn't do it Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadRolling Eyes

And so when ASCN's nos-setup came, bob simply switched to a huginn.

Of course, you could have just hammered that Scimitar up until the point where the vulture + CNR would have been out of cap charges and couldn't remote it any longer. But having both the damage output to accomplish that AND the remote repping to keep your team alive was more or less impossible.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2006.12.03 01:04:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: HuDDy
Your a tactical mastermind Butters someone should employ u to run a team Rolling Eyes

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Awww, how cute.

My own little BoB fanboi.


Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.12.03 02:22:00 - [22]
 

IMO this post doesnt belong here or anywhere on the forums coz its pure flamebait and the OP needs serious therapy from "OMG i am obessed with BOB" AKA Annue syndrome.

Seriously how is this post related to EVE TV disscussions etc?

Captain Raynor
Caldari
Posted - 2006.12.03 03:57:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Smagd
Well last tournament saw a Scimitar with a Halo set, I believe, and that thing *was* impossible to kill.

The only way to kill BoB's team in the last tournament was very simple.

A Nos team that they didn't predict. (nos-team means lots of nossing - to nos both the scimitar and at least one of the CNR/vulture)

One team was going to kill them with a nos-setup BoB didn't expect, but for some reasons didn't do it Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadRolling Eyes

And so when ASCN's nos-setup came, bob simply switched to a huginn.

Of course, you could have just hammered that Scimitar up until the point where the vulture + CNR would have been out of cap charges and couldn't remote it any longer. But having both the damage output to accomplish that AND the remote repping to keep your team alive was more or less impossible.



right but you started out rather freaking far from the other team in the 2nd tournament and yes, huginn/rapier just pwned any type of mass nos rush.. :(

TheDevilsJury
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.12.03 05:39:00 - [24]
 

Why would you bother trying to kill it. Surely, Butter Dog, there are other, far more efficient ways to take a logistics ship out of the equation. Granted no way is easy, including killing, but killing it is the first contingency the enemy is prepared for.

Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.12.03 07:22:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: TWD
Yeah make the logistics ship primary!



Am I the only one finding this absolutely hilarious? Laughing

Aldee
Federated Holdings
Posted - 2006.12.03 07:24:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: TheDevilsJury
Why would you bother trying to kill it. Surely, Butter Dog, there are other, far more efficient ways to take a logistics ship out of the equation. Granted no way is easy, including killing, but killing it is the first contingency the enemy is prepared for.


Yeah bump it out \o/

Pilk
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.03 07:58:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Aldee
Originally by: TheDevilsJury
Why would you bother trying to kill it. Surely, Butter Dog, there are other, far more efficient ways to take a logistics ship out of the equation. Granted no way is easy, including killing, but killing it is the first contingency the enemy is prepared for.


Yeah bump it out \o/

He was clearly suggesting that you should tracking-disrupt it.

Psssh.

--P

Chronus26
Team Laser Explosion
Molotov Coalition
Posted - 2006.12.03 07:59:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Chronus26 on 03/12/2006 07:59:59
Bad idea TBH. You wont kill the logistics, thats the first thing any half-decent tactician will expect. Instead you need to remove it from the fight some other way. I'll leave you to decide how, but I'll bet you it has a good few sensor boosters and a cap booster fitted.

For the last few tournaments people have tried to take out BoB's logistics, I can't recall any time that strategy has worked...

Zaethiel
Infinity Research
Posted - 2006.12.03 08:47:00 - [29]
 

You would have a better chance NOSing it and killing something else. It does have a cruiser size cap so its easy to limit it with nos. The problem logistic Cruisers bring is that one they reduce the damage you can output, but greatly increase your survival rate; which means your team must be able to do enough dmg to kill things without a 5th person.

SugarFr33
Transcendence Technology
Posted - 2006.12.03 11:46:00 - [30]
 

correct me if im wrong, but havent bob been the only team to use a logistics cruiser in this tournament? Fight fire with fire maybe?Confused


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