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Lili Stellaire
shadow and cloaking
Mordus Angels
Posted - 2008.12.18 10:14:00 - [481]
 

In 2 words as in 1000, thank you so much for this pdf :)

Nicholas Skrypets
Caldari
Russian Specialists Group
Red Army Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.19 11:21:00 - [482]
 

will be there Quntum Rise update , need to figure it out about Orca ? and thank u, that's most complete and creative guide i ever read

Internlink
Gallente
Intergalactic Trade and Transport Corporation
Un-Natural Selection
Posted - 2008.12.25 15:31:00 - [483]
 

Helped me alot :) thanks :)

Mona X
Caldari
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.01.04 04:03:00 - [484]
 

Originally by: Nicholas Skrypets
will be there Quntum Rise update , need to figure it out about Orca ? and thank u, that's most complete and creative guide i ever read


You take Rorqual section, strip it with everything excerpt mining bonus, take "2% * 5 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 1.2 = 27%" formula, switch 1.2 with 1.12, do little math and voila. QR edition is ready.

Bast's Cleric
Amarr
24th Imperial Reserves
Posted - 2009.01.14 20:59:00 - [485]
 

Orca Updated Needed, Yea the Math changes a little, But Some Fitting Advise Would also Be worth adding as well.

Per Bastet
Amarr
B.O.O.M
Obsidian Mining Coalition
Posted - 2009.01.23 07:01:00 - [486]
 

Bump, Orca Updates would be Awesome.

Repdo
Posted - 2009.02.04 18:02:00 - [487]
 

Halada, can you please comment on this?

Halada
Caldari
Lone Star Joint Venture
Posted - 2009.02.04 21:57:00 - [488]
 

I'm currently writing version 3.0 and is going slowly.

It will be three times the size of the mining guide because it will cover industry almost entirely.

Expected release date is March 10th with a revision to account for T3 1 month later.

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.02.04 22:30:00 - [489]
 

OMG!

You´re still carebearing like nobodies business!
Cool.
Fire me an EVE mail, if you wanna laber a bit. ugh

Repdo
Posted - 2009.02.04 22:30:00 - [490]
 

Thanks for your work in advance and for everything you've already done. It's very useful and informative. Hope you'll fixed this little inconsistency in the next releases.

Kordel Trask
Posted - 2009.02.05 17:21:00 - [491]
 

Originally by: Halada
I'm currently writing version 3.0 and is going slowly.
It will be three times the size of the mining guide because it will cover industry almost entirely.
Expected release date is March 10th with a revision to account for T3 1 month later.


This is great, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
The CCP guides on the forums have always been greatly lacking.
When I first started I was completely doing it wrong until I found your guide.

Thanks in advance for the whole industrial update!
I can't wait to read it.

Bast's Cleric
Amarr
24th Imperial Reserves
Posted - 2009.02.11 05:50:00 - [492]
 

Bump because this is to awesome to hide on page 5

Per Bastet
Amarr
B.O.O.M
Obsidian Mining Coalition
Posted - 2009.02.19 01:36:00 - [493]
 

Page 6?

Wow, Why the No Love for Halada?

Bertodan
Amarr
Maxx-Invest Corporation
Posted - 2009.02.19 17:07:00 - [494]
 

Thank you very much, Halada.
This guide is helped me a lot to get going in mining!

Bacchhus
Posted - 2009.02.19 19:31:00 - [495]
 

Thanks a lot.

Anne Archer
Posted - 2009.02.24 06:29:00 - [496]
 

Can't thank you enough for the guide and I can't wait for the update!

If only CCP had documentation for the rest of the game this good, How much pain would that have saved everyone?

Here's some Halda Luvin

Anthony Miller
Posted - 2009.03.03 06:47:00 - [497]
 

Very nice guide Halada thanks a bunch it was really helpfull. Too bad we are enemies ingame so I can`t donate ISKSmile.

Ch1pmunk
Posted - 2009.03.19 04:45:00 - [498]
 

did this get updated recently?

just wondering if there r changes with the latest ccp blunders (also known as 'the patch')

Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.03.19 05:20:00 - [499]
 

Edited by: Steve Thomas on 19/03/2009 05:21:44
Originally by: Ch1pmunk
did this get updated recently?

just wondering if there r changes with the latest ccp blunders (also known as 'the patch')
their is a newer bersion.

its very easy to find, it was right below this one,(and im going to bump it so it will be above this) so please stop bumping this its as obsolete as the thread about the T2 loto

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1020825


Adrian Reed
Posted - 2009.05.04 02:23:00 - [500]
 

thank you so much for this guide very helpful

Anol Angus
Posted - 2009.05.04 11:06:00 - [501]
 

Halada, please contact Carribean Queen in game.

Anol Angus
Posted - 2009.05.04 11:10:00 - [502]
 

Halada, please contact Carribean Queen in game in regards to T3 Cruiser mining (it actually beats the ROKH) based on the information in this guide. 4x Deep Core Miners with Crystals pull 245m3/cycle (*4) for 980m3/comparable cycle. With a skill up in Subsystems, this could go *5 for 1225/m3 cycle, and also doesn't count against the possibility of another MLU2. Gotta pay attention though, that hold fills mighty fast.

:D

Tlaa Sirk
Posted - 2009.05.26 10:46:00 - [503]
 

Edited by: Tlaa Sirk on 26/05/2009 10:47:26
Edited by: Tlaa Sirk on 26/05/2009 10:46:56
There is new version 3.0 of guide.
Here it is:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1020825&page=1#1

Lee009
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:56:00 - [504]
 

This guide is better than anything out there even those that cost RL money

Spud Mackenzie
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:33:00 - [505]
 

Edited by: Spud Mackenzie on 18/08/2009 12:33:38
Why did someone necro this thread, when the most recent/proper thread is actually Sticky'd up top?

Come on people!? Pay attention to the Stickys, they're not just there to take up space!

Ireland VonVicious
Posted - 2009.10.16 00:38:00 - [506]
 

Edited by: Ireland VonVicious on 16/10/2009 00:46:09
Well I read the guide front to back. Made sure to get every bit of information. For the most part I agree with everything in it. The math was done spot on. However there are two areas you may want to reconsider theory on. First being the battleship v.s. retriever. One huge factor here is attributes. If you have high mem/int and low perc/will the battleship is a very big waste when you compare the total sp/skills you will have for mining in the same amount of time.

The second is drones. This also relates to mem/int skills. Drones are a memory skill and those new to eve and want to be miners should know that memory is the skill to have. Very high memory skills make for very fast mining drone training.
I would recommend that new players remap all memory and the left overs to intelligence. I would also recommend this being done after cruiser level 4 and industrial level 3 are completed so that ship training time is still fast first few days.
Memory will increase your learning speeds for the learning skills. This should be a priority. It will then get you great drone skills that should be done early. It will also get you into a retriever faster with all the other mining skills needed.

Now doing drones early is the way I'd go. This is opposite of the guide.
So here are my reasons: First jettison mining is dumb even day one. Besides stolen ore and wasted hours you can have can flippers that will just blow up new players. This is why learning anchoring is so important for starting miners. Just mine in 0.7 since the rats are the easiest for areas you can still anchor in. Set a giant secure container with password in a belt and fill it up. I recommend up to a dozen. Then use regular containers in your industrial to transport. Secure ones cost more and are unneeded inside your industrial. Use any starter frigate "Calderi are not the best". Just make sure you can tank with your frigate and have one light drone kill the NPC's while you mine.
Reason 2: You will use drones for NPC's at belts for your mining career so get T2 light drones and T2 mining drones. Once you have light drones the mining drones are fast enough to get. Make sure you have your cruiser before training drones past level 1 though.
Reason 3: Drones are never going to be as big of a total percentage of your mining as they will be when you start. Even on a Fully fitted retriever with all T2 items drones can make up around 25% of your total ore per hour.

Now with memory heavy avatar this changes the whole Calderi has best cruiser for mining. The winner will be the Gallente Vexor. This also changes the entire harvester drone thing. Guess what they are very worth it when you mine in 0.5 and above and have them on the astroid right next to your ship. Vexor with harvester drones just stopped you from even needing to train drones to T2 for the early stages and with drone bonuses they will be great for high sec. I'm a massive tester of ships in EFT and Vexor with mining drones at 4 and harvester drones just makes other cruisers look bad. So much so that the vexor is on par with the T1 fitted retriever. Amarr also have the arbitrator which has similar bonus.

Random fun fact Orca the high sec carebear makes a great afk miner when using 5 harvester drones. Grab a few mil while you eat dinner. So yes harvesters suck for anything under 0.5 security but they do have great high sec use.

I know rigs were way expensive not long ago when this guide was written but they are cheap now. Even before the change drone rigs on vexor omg.

I know this guide was made before remaps but some avatars were memory heavy just to mine.

Always have a survey scanner!

If you want more information on any of this say hi in game. Another fun thing about the vexor before I go. Notice it fits 5 light drones and 5 harvester drones in the bay. what a nice 0.5 miner that makes. Also all skills trained when done this way go directly toward mining except the cruiser skills but hey a cruiser to pvp with is good!

Bel'shamharoth
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.10.16 01:33:00 - [507]
 

Way to necro the old guide, moron.

Ireland VonVicious
Posted - 2009.10.16 02:35:00 - [508]
 

Edited by: Ireland VonVicious on 16/10/2009 02:42:57
Originally by: Bel'shamharoth
Way to necro the old guide, moron.


I love it! Within the day. Like I said I read from front to back. I read what expansions were talked about to give me a time referance of when last updated. That is why I mentioned the few changes since. If you know of a newer version post the link instead of just trying to be a jerk. I played during those times in game as well with my first toon and all those points were just as valid during that time.

Just letting new people know there are some better ways to go about things. Oh and pull your head out of your but Bel'shamhartoh Razz

I even went and found the new guide due to your great comment these things are still valid as they are not changed in the 3.0 version.

Only comment that had any mention was the can flipping which did not talk about how they take from can and then put into can and make there own to make you put items in again and make you red to them.

I guess I'll just have to copy paste entire comment into the other thread too.

Wendi Watson
Organization Too Secret To Know
Posted - 2009.10.16 18:49:00 - [509]
 

Originally by: Ireland VonVicious
If you know of a newer version post the link instead of just trying to be a jerk.


It's a sticky at the top of this forum. Rolling Eyes

True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
Posted - 2009.10.20 15:38:00 - [510]
 

Question about Rorqual Compression, or two questions rather:

Does the ME/PE of your compression blueprints have any effect, i.e. is it worth researching them?

Does Compressed Ore fit in the dedicated ore-hold, or just normal ore?


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