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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2007.11.07 14:06:00 - [331]
 

While the guide is and always has been uber it lacks info about the infamous capital mining ships - eg the Veldnought etc Wink

Mona X
Caldari
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.11.08 14:31:00 - [332]
 

Edited by: Mona X on 08/11/2007 14:37:59
Originally by: Thenoran

So would I have to fit the 4th one with an MLU 1 or are there other CPU improvements that could help me so I can fit four MLU II's?


Implants Something 'Something' KMB-25, 50, or 75.

Originally by: Heyte
Do leadership skills that you possess (such as mining foreman, director, etc.) apply to you at all times? Or do they only work when in gang?


Gang only.

Algorithmic
Amarr
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
Posted - 2007.11.14 22:16:00 - [333]
 

Thanks guys most helpful

Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Sparse Enterprises
Posted - 2007.11.17 00:38:00 - [334]
 

The section about Mercoxit is wrong. It says that the modulated deep core strip miner with a tech 2 crystal has a yield of 437.5 (base yield 250). This would mean that the mercoxit crystal has a multiplier of 1.75, like all the other crystals. Problem is that the mercoxit crystal is only 1.375. Source.

This seems to have been taken into consideration in the equations at the bottom of the section. Also to note the skiff ship bonus is applied to the crystal modifier itself, although its unclear if that was considered when doing the calculations.

Always a fan.

Silenciel
ICE is Coming to EVE
Posted - 2007.11.26 17:41:00 - [335]
 

Just THE miner guide.

Great work.

Helen
White Noise.
Posted - 2007.11.27 11:29:00 - [336]
 

Good to see you keep updating and improving this Hal its a fine piece of work.
Also love to you for whacking me in the credits.Razz

Lord Trikke
Posted - 2007.11.28 03:56:00 - [337]
 

Link to the guide is broken won't let me view or save as : (

Rastaline
Posted - 2007.11.28 08:37:00 - [338]
 

Edited by: Rastaline on 28/11/2007 08:38:03
Do i miss any skills or good stuff ? witch improve my mining

Hulk

Exehumers

mining barge


Drones

mining drone


drone interfacing

drone navigation

drones


Industry

mining

mining upgrade

refining

refining effency

and alle the Difrint ore proccessing skills.


Leadership

Foreman

mining Director


witch gives acces for Mining foreman mindlink


Sceince

astrogeology

cybernetics for the mindling


and ofc you can train trade and social skills for market effency and standing.

i have not taken alle the skills that need to be trained to fly the hulke like sceince, because it dont gives anoy bonus for det mining yield or amount and so on.


I just whant to ask, is there any mining skills that i have missed.?.
and i am not thinking in ice and merox mining yet.

i got my hulk with modulated strip miners 2 in high+ mining crystals tech2
and the 2 tech2 mining laser upgrade.
5 mining drones 1 dont have 2 yet.


and i am lige 40days from the mining forman mindlink

plz reply fellow miners.

(sry for my bad spelling):)











DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2007.12.03 12:46:00 - [339]
 

Suggestion/Request for the Mining Guide, please cover a POS refining section in the mining guide.

Starshift
Posted - 2007.12.07 03:11:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: Alatari

* Aoede Mining Upgrade - 25% bonus, 6% cpu penalty
Very Happy


Actually, its 9% bonus, 7.5% cpu penalty :)

Lrrp
Minmatar
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.12.09 16:15:00 - [341]
 

Just another big "Kudos" to Halada for his very excellent work

Rattus Ranjiniae
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.12 00:21:00 - [342]
 

/me buys the OP some alcohol

Sainna
Minmatar
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.12.12 17:52:00 - [343]
 

I cant even find the link to get the guide.

/me kicks computer.


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Myra Rodan
Minmatar
Borderlands corp
True Reign
Posted - 2007.12.13 19:34:00 - [344]
 

Edited by: Myra Rodan on 13/12/2007 19:53:16
FWIW:
I mostly run missions, but decided I wanted to at least be competent at mining so I could produce my own ammo if nothing else. Therefore, I set out to get the most bang for the least investment of skill training and equipment. Being as I only fly minmatar right now, my choices were somewhat limited.

Here is what I came up with for my alt (I don't fly BS):

With just three skills:
Mining 5, Astrogeology 4, Mining Upgrades 4

and the following setup on my Maelstrom:
-HI-
8x Miner 2
-Med-
3x cap recharger 2
1x large shield booster 2
1x survey scanner
1x whatever
-Low-
3x co-processor 2
2x mining laser upgrade 2
-Rigs-
3x ccc - were already there for combat tank

everything runs forever, and with decent drone skills it will take care of any rats that show up in empire space.

It perhaps isn't the most effective miner, but it serves my purposes well enough, with a friend to haul and refine ore.

When I mine, I use the Scythe with something that resembles this setup (at work, not sure if it is correct):
-Hi-
1x Miner 2
2x Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream 1 (mining laser)
2x Arbalest Assault Missile Launcher
-Med-
1x Y-S8 Hydrocarbon Afterburner
2x Large Shield Extender II
-Low-
3x Co-Processor

This one can handle all empire rats with no trouble too.

Mona X
Caldari
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.12.18 14:28:00 - [345]
 

Originally by: Rastaline

Do i miss any skills or good stuff ? witch improve my mining

Hulk
Exhumers
mining barge



Astrogelolgy

Originally by: Rastaline

Drones
mining drone
drone interfacing
drone navigation
drones



Drone rigging and drone mining augmentor.

Originally by: Rastaline

Leadership
Foreman
mining Director
witch gives acces for Mining foreman mindlink



Cybernetic 5

And Highwall HX-2 is a better option. Drop mindlink on the guy in battlecruiser/cammandsheep/rorqual.

Originally by: Rastaline

astrogeology
cybernetics for the mindling


Oh, here they are.

Originally by: Rastaline

and ofc you can train trade and social skills for market effency and standing.

i have not taken alle the skills that need to be trained to fly the hulke like sceince, because it dont gives anoy bonus for det mining yield or amount and so on.


But you did. :)

Originally by: Rastaline

i got my hulk with modulated strip miners 2 in high+ mining crystals tech2
and the 2 tech2 mining laser upgrade.
5 mining drones 1 dont have 2 yet.[/i]

and i am lige 40days from the mining forman mindlink

plz reply fellow miners.



Except HX-2 there is also Michi's Excavation Augmentor. Both adds 5%.

KineticOne
Broadside.
On the Rocks
Posted - 2007.12.18 14:29:00 - [346]
 

Thnx m8t for a great guide I have used it many times.....



Lighthugger
Caldari
Rayn Enterprises
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.12.19 23:39:00 - [347]
 

Thanks alot for such a thourough overview! As a newb to mining in 0.0 I am interested in the module buildout for a Rohk to do 0.0 mining. Can anyone go through this with me?Shocked

Hannibal218
Posted - 2007.12.21 23:40:00 - [348]
 

i've read the mining guide and following through it.

i'm 14 days away to finally have a hulk, and using a retriever now.

but i've got into a major bummer, i've sold a mixed amount of some 600k omber, silvery and golden and got 38M, thats 82 isk per 1m3, which is very low,

i refine 100% and have only 2.5% tax, and due to accounting skill i lose only 0.08% of the deal so no great improvment here.

the mining guide talks about milions per hour but i am mining smthing like half of it
and i have mining 5, astrogeology 5, mining barge 4 (14 days to 5)

i have also sold the isogen i got for 68.25 isk, so even if i whould have sold it for 70 it whouldnt made such a big difference

it took me days to mine that much omber and i got only 38M i could have done twice the amount of money doing level 3 missions with my drake

am i missing somthing here?
coz the mining guide talks about much more isk/m3 for omber at this rate, if i fly a hulk it wil take me 2 months just to get the money back from the investment

i am greatly dissapointed for the time that i've lost

can some one enlight me ?

10x in advance

sgt carlini
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2007.12.22 14:46:00 - [349]
 

Edited by: sgt carlini on 22/12/2007 14:46:30
I was wondering.

this is about the hulk tank set up.

Firstly: is it vital to have an a type booster? i'm not going to be tanking 3 battleships with cruiser escorts as it says in the guide. would a b type do? its 150mil cheaper as well.

secondly: does the hulk tank set up include rigs? if so, what are they? if not, will i need them and which ones?

Helen
White Noise.
Posted - 2007.12.23 11:35:00 - [350]
 

Originally by: Hannibal218
i've read the mining guide and following through it.

i'm 14 days away to finally have a hulk, and using a retriever now.

but i've got into a major bummer, i've sold a mixed amount of some 600k omber, silvery and golden and got 38M, thats 82 isk per 1m3, which is very low,

i refine 100% and have only 2.5% tax, and due to accounting skill i lose only 0.08% of the deal so no great improvment here.

the mining guide talks about milions per hour but i am mining smthing like half of it
and i have mining 5, astrogeology 5, mining barge 4 (14 days to 5)

i have also sold the isogen i got for 68.25 isk, so even if i whould have sold it for 70 it whouldnt made such a big difference

it took me days to mine that much omber and i got only 38M i could have done twice the amount of money doing level 3 missions with my drake

am i missing somthing here?
coz the mining guide talks about much more isk/m3 for omber at this rate, if i fly a hulk it wil take me 2 months just to get the money back from the investment

i am greatly dissapointed for the time that i've lost

can some one enlight me ?

10x in advance


Are you selling to buy orders?
If so thats probably why. Also Retriever sucks.

Hannibal218
Posted - 2007.12.23 12:04:00 - [351]
 

I am, and i have realized that its a mistake

but where else can i sell my stuff ?

retriever sucks and in two weeks i will be able to use a hulk, but even if the hulk mines twice as fast even 2.25 times (with T2 minig crystals) it still not so much money, at this rate of 5M isk per hour it will take me 30 hours just to get the price of the hulk back

i whould appriciate your help
10x

Tyr Dominator
Amarr
Wolf Pack Samurai
Posted - 2007.12.23 17:24:00 - [352]
 

Great Job Halada

RAYNARK
Posted - 2007.12.29 11:22:00 - [353]
 

Edited by: RAYNARK on 29/12/2007 11:22:32
Guys I have been using this guide and have finally got into a Retreiver with 2 strip miner 1's.

I have been madly mining sharp crokite and have noticed an increase in mining yeild compared to my previous ship (a brutix with 7 miner 2's).

However I can mine 25000m3 in around 45-50 mins... How do u get 30million isk from this per hour? What am I doing wrong? All of the refining calculations I have done suggest around 9million isk.

I have a drake which I use for tanking on my second account.

Jonathan Calvert
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:30:00 - [354]
 

Originally by: RAYNARK
Edited by: RAYNARK on 29/12/2007 11:22:32
Guys I have been using this guide and have finally got into a Retreiver with 2 strip miner 1's.

I have been madly mining sharp crokite and have noticed an increase in mining yeild compared to my previous ship (a brutix with 7 miner 2's).

However I can mine 25000m3 in around 45-50 mins... How do u get 30million isk from this per hour? What am I doing wrong? All of the refining calculations I have done suggest around 9million isk.

I have a drake which I use for tanking on my second account.


The numbers in the guide may be based on different market prices. Seems all minerals have come down in price.

Digit Handscome
Posted - 2007.12.31 01:19:00 - [355]
 

Thanks for the sweet guide! I also wanted to get a clue in here-and you gave it to me! lol

Let me fax you a beer

Apricot Weizen
Posted - 2008.01.01 20:32:00 - [356]
 

Awesome work. This helped me stay in the game, nice pathing for the miner career


sgt carlini
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2008.01.06 14:53:00 - [357]
 

Edited by: sgt carlini on 22/12/2007 14:46:30
I was wondering.

this is about the hulk tank set up.

Firstly: is it vital to have an a type booster? i'm not going to be tanking 3 battleships with cruiser escorts as it says in the guide. would a b type do? its 150mil cheaper as well.

secondly: does the hulk tank set up include rigs? if so, what are they? if not, will i need them and which ones?

p.s. i have already posted this and i am sorry for double posting but nobodies answered it i think because it higher up than newer posts.

Kaakao
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.01.08 10:57:00 - [358]
 

"Finally there is ice, which is now only available in low-sec and 0.0."

Currently mining ice in caldari 0.5 space with my alt.

Marshy 3rd
Posted - 2008.01.12 00:51:00 - [359]
 

Ok i dont want to be a downer but in all your calculations i cant work out your equations. Extract:


3.1 Skill System
The skill levels in EVE, whatever which skill it is, stack. Concretely, it means the following: using the skill Mining as an example, which gives a 5% bonus to the yield of your mining laser per level, if you trained Mining to level 4, it means you get : 5%*4=20% bonus from the skill Mining at level 4.

The effect of the different skills you trained though have to be multiplied together. Say you have Astrogeology at level 4 (which also gives a 5% bonus per level to your yield) and Mining at level 4,
then your net yield would be:
Base laser yield * 1.20 * 1.20 = XXX Using T2 Miners

wheres does the 1.20 come from sureley this should be 0.20 to represent 20% 1.20 would equal 120%. You may have an explanation for this but i cant work out lol.

could you let me know wheather what i say is true or if im talking a load of rubbish lol.

Thurasiz Demir
Posted - 2008.01.12 02:40:00 - [360]
 

Just pure and simple Math.

ok, lets say your Base Yield is 100 m.
If you calculate, as you said, with 0.20 its 100 m * 0.2 = 20 m

so as you can see, the 1 is for having your 100 m Baseyield AND your 20 % Bonus,
as 100 m * 1.2 = 120 m.



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