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Jim McGregor
Posted - 2006.11.22 20:30:00 - [31]
 


Make it a 2 hour downtime. I think everybody wants you to take your time to make things work.

Silver Bird
EmpiresMod
Posted - 2006.11.22 20:39:00 - [32]
 

Sounds like a nice mini drama, record it and play it on eve-tv for the next broadcast.

Best of luck.

rodgerd
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.11.22 20:46:00 - [33]
 

Good plan.

CCP Sharkbait

Posted - 2006.11.22 21:47:00 - [34]
 

i'll be honest. it's not been done before and we don't know for sure it will help us. but unless we try, we gain nothing. if it doesn't work only thing we have lost is a few hour in the day for a few people. got to be worth it imo.

however, if it works. well it will make deployment smoother and it's something CCP can do for other large patches

Kai Tei
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2006.11.22 22:58:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Kai Tei on 22/11/2006 22:59:28
Originally by: Roshan longshot
You know some of us...like all americans will be off tommorrow? Well I guess I can watch a football game instead...






didnt he say it will be during the normal down time period which is about 6am-7am east time U.S American, so i see no problems in missing anything, BTW no football would be on that early LOL

Xporter
Posted - 2006.11.22 23:24:00 - [36]
 

Thanks for the heads-up and I hope it all goes as planned. Good luck

Chuck Tucker
Posted - 2006.11.23 00:58:00 - [37]
 

*cough*
Originally by: Sharkbait
smooth
*cough*
Originally by: Sharkbait
ride.


/me setups long skill training

Wink Good luck, CCP Wink

*cough*

AirwolfRAP
Gallente
Saber Enterprises
Posted - 2006.11.23 01:00:00 - [38]
 

Good to hear that you guys are taking a proactive approach as opposed to a reactive one.Smile

Also if all goes to plan will revelations be rolled out of the 28th as planned.Shocked

Xaverrii
Gallente
Saber Enterprises
Safe And Fun Environment
Posted - 2006.11.23 01:42:00 - [39]
 

Thats great to see guys,hope all goes well as I'll need my EVE fix every day
cant wait for the new patch.

Svanh Mickahl
Infinite Dreams Inc
Posted - 2006.11.23 01:49:00 - [40]
 

Okay I am glad all the Euros are saying this is okay, what the CRAP is CCP thinking. Thrusday is a major US holiday which means US players will be lining up to enjoy some play time. So you are gonna test stuff on the holiday? Guys this is seriously crazy save it for Friday but PLEASE do not do this on a major US holiday and risk making the US players have to sit on their thumbs!


Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
Posted - 2006.11.23 02:14:00 - [41]
 

Downtime is in GMT the closest US timezone is -5hrs. how many people from the US are playing EVE at that time. i know ill be getting up for a car trip to the boston area at around the time TQ is coming up. hmm too bad i dont have WiMAX as im not driving.

Drakma
Buttered On The Wrong Side
Posted - 2006.11.23 02:30:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
Downtime is in GMT the closest US timezone is -5hrs. how many people from the US are playing EVE at that time. i know ill be getting up for a car trip to the boston area at around the time TQ is coming up. hmm too bad i dont have WiMAX as im not driving.


It's not about when it goes down, but when/if it comes back up.

Pellaeonn
Posted - 2006.11.23 02:36:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Svanh Mickahl
Okay I am glad all the Euros are saying this is okay, what the CRAP is CCP thinking. Thrusday is a major US holiday which means US players will be lining up to enjoy some play time. So you are gonna test stuff on the holiday? Guys this is seriously crazy save it for Friday but PLEASE do not do this on a major US holiday and risk making the US players have to sit on their thumbs!



Care factor is less than ZERO,
EVE just is'nt played in the US you know,
build a brigde my friend & get over it. *Sigh*
when are you guys going realize that the rest of the world doesnt care what you think.

Angeldust
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2006.11.23 02:40:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Sharkbait
i'll be honest. it's not been done before and we don't know for sure it will help us. but unless we try, we gain nothing. if it doesn't work only thing we have lost is a few hour in the day for a few people. got to be worth it imo.

however, if it works. well it will make deployment smoother and it's something CCP can do for other large patches


Honestly informing the community of whats going on ftw.
Delays/DTs are so much easier to endure that way.

Good Luck and may it improve patch deployment.

HankMurphy
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Posted - 2006.11.23 03:40:00 - [45]
 


i would suggest keeping various shamen/priests/witchdoctors on site before startup. both on the 23rd and 28th.

maybe even sacrifice a few virgins and goats, just to play on the safe side.

thx for the heads up! g/l !

Dream Theater
47R
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2006.11.23 04:19:00 - [46]
 

good luck, and happy thanksgiving. Cool

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2006.11.23 04:25:00 - [47]
 

GREAT IDEA and GREAT NEWS! Really. Just, uh, ummm, why did it take YEARS of customers bleeding out the eyes with suffering from bad/sloppy patch procedures for you guys to come up with this? Just saying..... But, in all seriousness, and with all sincerity, good luck. I REALLY hope you learn something from the process. And even if you don't, KEEP TRYING. Anything you can do to get these nightmare patches under control is a good thing. Cheers all! Let me know if my services are needed to sacrifice small animals for good omens and smooth sailing...

Svanh Mickahl
Infinite Dreams Inc
Posted - 2006.11.23 04:26:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Pellaeonn
Originally by: Svanh Mickahl
Okay I am glad all the Euros are saying this is okay, what the CRAP is CCP thinking. Thrusday is a major US holiday which means US players will be lining up to enjoy some play time. So you are gonna test stuff on the holiday? Guys this is seriously crazy save it for Friday but PLEASE do not do this on a major US holiday and risk making the US players have to sit on their thumbs!



Care factor is less than ZERO,
EVE just is'nt played in the US you know,
build a brigde my friend & get over it. *Sigh*
when are you guys going realize that the rest of the world doesnt care what you think.


You know this attitude is pathetic, I would call for the same consideration for a major holliday ANYWHERE a big player base was. It is not about it being US based but rather a fact that 30% or better of the subscribers are about to have a major free day at once and they are doing a test that in theory could ruin that day for those players.

Zippy
Caldari
default corp
Posted - 2006.11.23 05:24:00 - [49]
 

Uhh good luck Shocked

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2006.11.23 05:39:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Feng Schui on 23/11/2006 05:39:22
ok... for the USA naysayers...

I'm on EST.. which means, I'm "closer" to GMT than central / west coast peeps..

downtime is 6am - 7am for me..
CST: 5am - 6am
PST: 3am - 4am

and I am missing a timezone.. or i suck at timezones.. one of the other.. something like that.

So if, lets say... server doesn't come back up until noon GMT (12:00 eve-time)... that is still 8 am for ME..

If you are trying to play Eve Online (or any MMORPG).. that early in the morning (unless you work 3rd shift).. and it is your day off..

Go seek help now


On second thoughts, here I was getting all happy about Revelations being patched early Evil or Very Mad

Nadine Desaix
Vorace.
Posted - 2006.11.23 06:11:00 - [51]
 

Excellent idea. And to all those who are concerned about having TQ potentially crash, I believe shark pointed out they're using seperate databases. Even if it crashes it will come back up soon enough. The fewer problems we have when Revelations is deployed the better. I'd gladly sacrifice a few hours of play for a patch that doesn't require crash fixes the day it comes out.

More Ahn
Posted - 2006.11.23 06:17:00 - [52]
 

Cool, looks like I was right. You're testing the deployment during downtime, and if all goes well the downtime won't be extended much. Neat idea.

Hablacraja
Relic Defense Initiative
The OSS
Posted - 2006.11.23 06:59:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Hablacraja on 23/11/2006 06:59:50

Excellent. Good luck, devs, hard work and thoroughness will pay off in the end.

/me smiling, quickly and discreetly changes skill to a V...

Dwindlehop
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.11.23 07:15:00 - [54]
 

Weren't most of the problems with the Dragon release related to the differences between the databases between Singularity and Tranquility? I fail to see how testing with the test database will prevent future problems like Dragon experienced.

More testing before release is good, though.

Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
Posted - 2006.11.23 08:45:00 - [55]
 


How certain are you that after the upgrade the downgrade will be just as smooth?

As far as I know there has never been a downgrade of TQ like that, so we might just loose a day or two of TQ due to issues downgrading and starting up the market or the agent missions and so on.

Anyway I'll see about sacrificing a goat or two and of course setting a very long skill in training. Twisted Evil

CCP Valar

Posted - 2006.11.23 09:09:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Ralitge boyter

How certain are you that after the upgrade the downgrade will be just as smooth?

As far as I know there has never been a downgrade of TQ like that, so we might just loose a day or two of TQ due to issues downgrading and starting up the market or the agent missions and so on.

Anyway I'll see about sacrificing a goat or two and of course setting a very long skill in training. Twisted Evil


Well, you don't have to worry. We are not actually upgrading anything or changing anything thats related to the normal operation of TQ. We will deploy the Kali code in a separate folder on the cluster, running on a separate database server, so the normal TQ code/database will not be touched at all. All we have to do to revert is to kill the Kali processes on the cluster and start up TQ like normally.

Charon Gonzales
Posted - 2006.11.23 09:09:00 - [57]
 

finnaly a good approach!

extend the dt for 1h everey day if you need to, its a small price to pay for smooth release, losing a hour or two per day is small thing compared to broken game for months :)

CCP Sharkbait

Posted - 2006.11.23 10:18:00 - [58]
 

ok we are finalizing the setup now and will be ready in 10 mins or so. there is 3 of us who will be reviewing the logs for errors after we have finished. i will ofcourse keep you updated with information as we get the information.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2006.11.23 10:50:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Sharkbait
ok we are finalizing the setup now and will be ready in 10 mins or so. there is 3 of us who will be reviewing the logs for errors after we have finished. i will ofcourse keep you updated with information as we get the information.


Good luck guys.

ElrondMD
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.11.23 10:59:00 - [60]
 

Great work guys, as someone who has DT from 7pm-8pm every day and is completely effected by any DT outages, take all the time you need, the shortsighted people here whinging are the same people who would be whinging if the patch were deployed with major bugs due to a lack of testing, some people will never be happy.


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