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Davodi
Posted - 2007.11.09 17:52:00 - [421]
 

So here we finally got some new information regarding "ambulation". This is information just a few days old from the fanfest. Enjoy

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/1557/gameID/14/page/1

Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2007.11.09 21:06:00 - [422]
 

yet again... not one hint as to WHEN! not even a "soon"

Cey Shirii
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.11.11 02:51:00 - [423]
 

I really dislike the idea of combat in stations... It would change EVE so much.

Davodi
Posted - 2007.11.11 22:44:00 - [424]
 

Edited by: Davodi on 11/11/2007 22:44:28

Of course they cant set a date, or even close to one. Thats just common sense Tressin Khiyne.

Originally by: Cey Shirii
I really dislike the idea of combat in stations... It would change EVE so much.


Depends on the type of combat. It would be weird to have hundreds of warriors in the same station but no fights, dont you agree?

Willow Whisp
Sadist Faction
Posted - 2007.11.12 10:29:00 - [425]
 

Originally by: Davodi
Depends on the type of combat. It would be weird to have hundreds of warriors in the same station but no fights, dont you agree?


They aren't warriors... They are uber nerd demi-gods that pilot spaceships from pods full of goo. I'll be damned if their musles are either just for show, or mostly atrophied. The true warriors would be the cheap marines, slaves, and other "livestock" that we transport. The pod pilots probably have a full security detail surrounding them most of the time.

thion li
g guild
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2007.11.14 12:18:00 - [426]
 

Originally by: Jin Toh
Shocked

You'll double the number of people playing EVE.


Better Duke Nukem Style strippers too! Please?

Irina Delorean
Caldari
TURBINIUM
Posted - 2007.11.15 02:54:00 - [427]
 

Originally by: Cey Shirii
I really dislike the idea of combat in stations... It would change EVE so much.


Some kind of "mission whit your friend mates in a "party" gang against NPC" would be cool. But in the first steps of this new era...i think that social interaction and some kind of activities or research missions are enougth.

Anyway, The ambulation stuff seems to increase the fun a lot.

Exus
Die Trying
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2007.11.16 10:04:00 - [428]
 

as of my research about a "when"
first release maybe added current june or july. And it will be base release with more content added during the end of 2008.

Davodi
Posted - 2007.11.16 14:38:00 - [429]
 

Originally by: Willow Whisp
Originally by: Davodi
Depends on the type of combat. It would be weird to have hundreds of warriors in the same station but no fights, dont you agree?


They aren't warriors... They are uber nerd demi-gods that pilot spaceships from pods full of goo. I'll be damned if their musles are either just for show, or mostly atrophied. The true warriors would be the cheap marines, slaves, and other "livestock" that we transport. The pod pilots probably have a full security detail surrounding them most of the time.


Then i must say, you have no idea of what a warrior is. A warrior is not something with big muscles and a hardened skull. A warrior is a person that wage war and puts him self in the front, ready to kill och be killed in the heat of battle. I dont care if they are in a pod and are 40 kg slim. They have the mind of the warrior, wich is the most important aspect.

Besides http://eve.tentonhammer.com/ has put up ALOT of movies regarding ambulation from the fanfest. Feel free to watch them and discuss, I think it looks real nice. In the movies CCP also describes why fighting wont be allowed in the beggining, for you that want to know why.

Myra Rodan
Minmatar
Borderlands corp
True Reign
Posted - 2007.11.16 21:27:00 - [430]
 

Haven't read entire thread, so it may have come up already, but I think it would be great to have a setup akin to an old western (in theme, not necessarily style). You walk into the tavern to see who's around. Different rooms available for different activities. Perhaps if you have high enough standing with a particular corp you would gain access to the back room where they have their corp unique LP offers (for NPC corps anyway).

How about poker tables? Each one could have several players and it's own chat so you could discuss business over a game (would be great for my corp). Or just risk your hard won isk gambling against the house or the other players.

Perhaps corps or alliances could each sponsor their own location. Could work like the station offices do now, only you'd have different services available for different charges. Just the basic office to do the paperwork involved with joining up for a low price, add a tavern (with the poker tables) for some additionial fee. Add some other activity for another fee.

Di55y
Posted - 2007.11.20 13:30:00 - [431]
 

Well I think its a great step. I wouldn't mind the introduction of some more jobs. jobs, u can only do in stations. jobs, making your company more profitable and making corp work much more complex/detailed (stock traders, human resources department, tax department, ingame warfare/battle planning and mission briefings, bribing to get passages through concord-space with illegal freight YARRRR!!..) - you dont need those workers to run a corp but you benefit from having those ppl.

Valron Xizor
The Xizor Cartel
Posted - 2007.11.21 16:59:00 - [432]
 

Originally by: Arthegon
So they have finally come up with a way to solve lag in game. If we have less pilots in space we automatically have less lag, less gatejumps, less encounters, etc etc etc...

Im sorry but EVE Online is not Quake or SIMS and that is why I play EVE right now. If I wish to play FPS games or some other type of game I will. Is THIS the way this game is going to expand ? Right now EVE doesnt have ANY good competition out there - make it an FPS game and you will be in hard competition not to mention less of the game that we really want to play - i.e. the pew pew in space with little ships, mods and whathaveyou...





And you can continue to play eve as you do now.

End

Driann
Minmatar
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
Alpha Tauri
Posted - 2007.11.21 17:35:00 - [433]
 

It sounds amazing!

I just hope it doesn't take like 5 yrs to be ready

Lord Bleu
Darkstorm Command
Ethereal Dawn
Posted - 2007.11.22 12:49:00 - [434]
 

I dont see alot of CCP posts in here so I am wondering if there's any point in posting questions... Anayway here goes.

Firslty, cant wait for this.

1. Will we be getting to recreate our existing character portrait to fit in with the new 3d characters?

2. WHen is this likely to go live?

Thanks

Areaus Liborius
Caldari
Templar Republic
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2007.11.25 11:50:00 - [435]
 

This should be quite historic. Laughing

Knarfis
Dynaverse Corporation
Sodalitas XX
Posted - 2007.11.26 00:15:00 - [436]
 

Edited by: Knarfis on 26/11/2007 00:21:08
I completely dislike this idea. What happened to the idea of planet interaction?? Thought that was more in line with what EVE is all about. This whole station/avatar idea is nice but its just that, an idea. There really is no room in this game for that kind of idea. EVE isnt WOW or Everquest 1 or 2. This is EVE. Flying around in a planets atmosphere and having station on/in the planet seems more in like the way EVE is heading and what more of what the players out there want to see.

I say to CCP, lets put the effort toward the planet interaction idea and put this station/avatar thing on the back burner for a while. I understand you (CCP) are involved with a new game and this idea is a stepping stone toward that new game. But its not needed in our game.

Here is an idea for you CCP if you read this post. Creat a poll with the question; "what would u rather see in upcoming expantions, planet interaction or space staion/avatar interaction? I think we would find an interesting result from that question. I personally would like to see the results.

Knarfis

drmurda
R E D E M P T I O N
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2007.11.30 05:09:00 - [437]
 

cant w8 Smile

Jonas Xiamon
Caldari
Posted - 2007.12.10 01:43:00 - [438]
 

I didn't read the whole thread but I'm already annoyed by how many people keep posting "waa... I don't want WoW or an FPS..."

It's really irritating...

anyway, when are the devs going to post something new on this?

Misina Arlath
Amarr
Posted - 2007.12.10 10:21:00 - [439]
 

Edited by: Misina Arlath on 10/12/2007 10:21:50
This is going to be so great :)

I really hope the character-creation for full-rendered models will be as detailed/varied as the portrait creation today.

Also, for the costumes, I'm really curious wether you can obtain many different ones, or if you'll be locked with your original choice (as the portraits today), since costumes is half the impression you get of someone.

When it comes to things to do, it does sound great if they add minigames inside bars and such, like playing pool, card games or darts. Maybe even an option to place some bets. Many times I get burned out from either running missions tenfold of times in a row, mining for hours, or not finding anyone to kill in low/0-sec systems. I actually enjoy just sitting down and chatting with a friend or the corp while in-game. Discussing anything from ships and fittings in the game to real-world politics and gossip about either idiots in the game or how to decorate your living room.

I know many don't want "another FPS" or "another WoW"... well, as was said in the blog... if you don't want to walk in stations, then don't. The "old-skool" UI and access to agents and the market will still remain, so any fast-laners can still do everything from the regular "classic" dockingbay view.

It is, however, a solid and awesome addition for those of us that come from fantasy MMO's and enjoy "person to person" interaction in the game as opposed to seeing your friend as a [ ] 10km+ away from you all day.

CCP has given no hints or dates as to when this is implemented, but to be honest, I prefer it that way. They always delivered quality in their expansion/patches, and I would rather that it takes months extra, than to have a date set, then get grumpy as the deadline gets pushed back or broken, or even worse, have a half-done expansion thrown into the game just to make the community shut up (then get drowned in "I quit" and "this sucks" posts all over the forum).

For my own sake, the new upgrade in the graphics is going to last me a long time, and when Ambulation finally comes, I have no doubt that it will be well-done and thought-through.

If you want the horror story on MMO's going wrong due to throwing them out on market before they are ready, google for Vanguard: Saga of Heroes... read and weep.

Keep up the excellent work CCP!


Exus
Die Trying
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2007.12.13 14:07:00 - [440]
 

TORFI !!! talk to us man ! Surprised

Alinea Mashir
Posted - 2007.12.26 06:39:00 - [441]
 

Originally by: Lord Bleu
I dont see alot of CCP posts in here so I am wondering if there's any point in posting questions... Anayway here goes.

Firslty, cant wait for this.

1. Will we be getting to recreate our existing character portrait to fit in with the new 3d characters?

2. WHen is this likely to go live?

Thanks


1) In some article from the fanfest, I read that we'll have to recreate our avatar, basically. A free plastic surgery, if you will. (And it SEEMS that we'll be able to change them in game, after this, too)

2) Date that sticks out that I THINK I've read is June/July 2008, with more content late '08. Double check me, though.

I'm very excited for this. I don't think it'll tarnish the Eve experience at all.

Dalek Wuscfrea
Posted - 2008.01.01 09:32:00 - [442]
 

It would be amazing if you could walk in stations and do meetings and stuff, and emotes like IMVU or whatever, Rolling Eyes it would be exellent, heres a video : http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U8yC4JwB7AM Twisted Evil

Jaerl
Caldari
Nice Boat Owners Club
Posted - 2008.01.02 21:45:00 - [443]
 

First thing actually... is it just me, or does the real-time character model look a little bit like Bruce Willis? Shocked I mean, besides from the hair obviously.

I think to make ambulation a success, develop it with the same philosophy used as when EVE was first developed - don't do too much at once. Gambling, bar-fights, PleasureHub facilities, whatever - the core value of ambulation to EVE should be to enhance the RPG element, it shouldn't be a combat thing as I'm sure most of you would agree. Start out with simple extra environments, just for viewing pleasure, before adding in actual complex interactions and gimmicks, maybe a few emotes or basic controls (please don't give them the ability to bunny hop, just please don't...) to feel part of it - but keep it basic first and gauge responses from there. EVE is EVE, and EVE takes place in space, so CCP - be careful about this balance!

I think some good basic starting features would be the few station services in rendered environment form, purely for looks. And perhaps 'station instancing' or something to that effect - meet up with gangmates/fleetmates/corpmates/business clients in instanced meeting rooms or something.

And onto the subject of remaking avatars - I do hope that this will be case and we won't just patch it and suddenly have our characters in full-body form with old clothes (even high res) where there are new features and things to apply which have been missed. And what about clothing/portraits? Post-Ambulation, will the 're-render --> swap face for fee' process still apply, or is it possible for us to 'buy' new 'costumes' for our avatars with ISK? I think this would be an interesting point and needs a little probing.

Halcana
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2008.01.03 19:14:00 - [444]
 

I think the idea of combat in stations would be OK...it would be good if stations had different characters when it came to combat. I'd expect state offices, pirate dens and corporate lab facilities to have different views on appropriate behaviour from visiting capsuleers. Also for standing to affect the consequences of starting a brawl - the local hero who gets "tired and emotional" at a respectable corporate facility gets gently guided back to prepared guest quarters, but Joe Schmoe getting lairy in a Guristas bar gets his face smashed by the bouncers, who then extract a "tip" from his wallet and launch him into space - in a pod, if he's lucky.

Max Essen
Gallente
Bison Industrial Inc
Posted - 2008.01.03 21:56:00 - [445]
 

Okay, my 2 ISK worth on combat in stations.
I think that this is the worst possible idea I have ever heard of.
If I want to play an FPS twitch-game, I would not be playing Eve.

Now, with that said, I am understandibly curious as to how walking stations would enhance the entire Eve experience. From all I have read so far, I just don't see it ... of course, I have been accused of wearing blinders. Shocked

CareBear salute: "Fly Safe, Mine Well."

Ryu Icewing
Posted - 2008.01.14 02:20:00 - [446]
 

walking in station would be great i find and i see them doing beter then Starwars galexy did on that front.

TheWhip
Posted - 2008.01.14 13:41:00 - [447]
 

Edited by: TheWhip on 14/01/2008 13:41:07

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2008.01.14 19:46:00 - [448]
 

Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 14/01/2008 19:48:38
For basic beginning combat? "punch" 2-person emote and friends. This will give the RP'ers the tools needed for some drama without really requiring any additional mechanics beyond those of a handshake emote.

EDIT: And please, only enable dance emotes in a nightclub or other specialized area...

Artazzo
Posted - 2008.01.15 08:11:00 - [449]
 

well, i do hope they look at PotBS... the avatars look great but somehow doesn't fit in the whole ship-business (not to mention the swashbuckling there is kinda disappointing)

Voyager Brian
Posted - 2008.01.27 21:00:00 - [450]
 

Well, after more than 2 years after Earth & Beyond online was shutdown, I decided to try Eve Online to see what it was like in comparrison. Answer: Eve online sucks compared to Earth and Beyond. I mean I got to give credit to the Eve DEV's on the nice graphics, star maps, and huge Universe that exists. Other than that, I find the gameplay sort of dull. I will most likely not stay with Eve online for long. I just am bored with it already. Earth and Beyond had something that was unique and addictive. Anyone who decided to buy the rights for the E&B online from Electronic arts and re-start the game from where it left off. Personally, if EVE Online has the capital, I suggest they do that and create a independant branch for E&B service and see how it turns out.

I feel that Earth and Beyond online also pulled customers who were not that advanced on the MMPORG area. Eve online seems much more confusing and complicated that Earth and Beyond was. I think it makes the younger crowds and less MMPORG savy people go away. BOTTOM LINE. Earth and Beyond online originally created by Westwood Entertainment was a superior product. Its only downfall was a unfortunate selling of Westwood to Electronic Arts which created the downfall of the game. Electronic Arts is so big, and has so much money, and the fact that Earth and Beyond was not their creation, and wanted to use the E&B servers for their Sims online along with a lack of advertising was what lead to the downfall of Earth and Beyond.

I am not saying get rid of Eve, I am just saying have Earth and Beyond as a second option. As it stands right now, their is a absolutly huge fan base for Earth and Beyond even after the game has been shutdown for well over 2 years, and we are willing to pay money for playing it again. Until then, we are going to sit on the sidelines and wait for Earth and Beyond to return somehow, and someday down the road whenever that is. And believe me, one day it will return. When it does, whoever that re-establishes the Earth and Beyond online Service will be rewarded from the fans out here who still exsist.

Eve is not the same as Earth and Beyond. I have heard others on here who spoke of the same thing I am speaking now. They have played many online games, and MPORPG's and nothing has compared with the Earth and Beyond online experience. Deal with it, its reality. Bring Back Earth and Beyond online. I hope the Eve DEV's are reading this.


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