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Shintoko Akahoshi
Risen Angels
Posted - 2003.11.08 07:59:00 - [1]

The threads in the Eve library about Minmatar and Amarr culture have gotten me thinking. There isn't a huge amount of background for the various cultures that make up the Gallente Federation. We know, for instance, that there are the racial Gallente and Intaki, but there isn't a great deal of background. As far as I know only Hodokie Seek has attempted to write any sort of Intaki background or roleplay material beyond "one of these days we should split off from the Gallente Federation". What about the Mannars? They're mentioned in the background, but as far as I know no one has attempted to play one. There are a bunch of Minmatars living in the Federation, too. What about them? Do they all live in their own enclaves, or are they integrated into general Gallente society?

The way I see it, there is a generalized "global" Gallente culture. This is the vibrant, rather sophisticated and urban culture that is typically attributed to the Gallente. But this global culture is the result of blending the cultures of the various Federation member cultures. It's also (probably) very driven by style and fashion, with various aspects going in and out of favor at a fairly rapid rate. That would only make sense in a culture where nothing truly has roots. Part of what would make it attractive to people is it's style and newness, and that requires it to constantly change in order to maintain this newness.

Below this level, however, lie the cultures of the various member peoples. Hodokie wrote some interesting things about the Intaki as part of his stories in the Eve library. It's just a little taste, though. We should have more. Same thing for the Mannars. They both developed on their own worlds, isolated for millennia. They should have some pretty distinct cultures. What about the Minmatars living in the Federation. Tribal culture is very important to the Minmatars, so I can't imagine that these immigrants would just drop theirs. What is "traditional" Gallente culture like? Not the culture of the Federation, but the culture of the Gallente from Gallente Prime?

What would their version of Minmatar culture have picked up from the Federation at large? Cultural exchange goes both ways, so I'd expect that Minmatars in the Federation would have subtle (and not so subtle) cultural differences from their Republic cousins. Same with the Intaki and Mannars, as well. We know that the Gallente trend of facial tattoos is derived from the Minmatar tradition of the same. What else have we gotten from them? How has all of this blended together?

I see the cultures within the federation sort of like salad dressing. The kind with oil and vinegar and various herbs and stuff in it. You can mix it up and get a single bowl of dressing, but it's really made up of little blobs of oil floating in the vinegar, distinct bits of herbs and stuff floating around in that. You can treat it like just a bowl of dressing, but you can never really get to know it without getting to know all the little bits that make it up. We should write that.

Vel Kyri
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2003.11.08 09:26:00 - [2]

Very good point all.

I hadn't even thought of the Minmatar influences - facial tattoos/paints.

I had always imagined the Gallente as something like the European Union - or perhaps something like the UNited States - There is a "Global Culture" but also a great deal more sob-cultures.

For example, there is a idea of "American". MMost US citizens are accepting of multiculturalism, are extremely protective or the ideals of freedom/democracy etc. and are basically slaves to trends/fashions.

I think that of all the races, Gallente "culture" would be the hardest to describe... how do you describe US "Culture" - New York? California? Iowa? New Orleans? Alaska?
Preppie - rappers - etc etc

there are too many subcultures to really describe, and i feel its the same for Gallents.

Unlike the Caldari with the Corporate culture and hyper-capitalism, the Minmatar and tribal culture, and the Amarr and their religion/Empire there is much less unifying in the Gallente.

I would be most tempted to draw similarities to the United states more than anything else.

Thats just my opinion

ps - where is that bit on Intaki?

Hodokie Seek
Old Farts Drinking Club
Posted - 2003.11.08 15:30:00 - [3]

I can not say much on the Mannars as I chose Intaki, but I agree that the culture seems to most resemble the US in many regards. Thre seems to be three distict races or cultures;

The original Decendants of the Tau Ceti Frenchman. With absolutly not offence the the French, the caulture really more resembles the US in how there culture seems to have developed, then again, I am no French history.

Absorbed into the Gallente Federation.

Absorbed into the Gallente Federation.

In the game though, you can only choose Gallente or Intaki, Mannar is not a Bloodline you can choose in game, funny how they are mentioned in the story line but you can not have a Mannar Character.

But as you stated Shintoko, there is no real history writen for the Gallente Federation outside of thier culture always being on the leading edge of fashion and entertainment, sort of representing the Gallentean's as being shallow and having no regard for the past, with the exception of the Reborn Acenstry of the Intaki.

They belive in instilling the memories of the dying into new born children rather then cloning the dying person themself, it is thier tradition and thier respresentation of what they view as the ideal after life. Persons of great imortance such as ship captains and such may use clones though.

Based off of that little information, to be honest, I am making up the rest that is reflected in my stores, i.e., the Reborn Sect only believing in one birth, life, and death and reserving importality for thier Gods/God.

Think I may have strayed a bit off topic hereEmbarassed, but it's sort of how I have thought about the Gallentean Culture thus far.

Lord Eidolon
Posted - 2003.11.09 10:26:00 - [4]

I'd like CCP to provide at least a little more RP material for Gallente players to draw upon. Otherwise, I guess it's up to the players themselves.

Hodokie Seek
Old Farts Drinking Club
Posted - 2003.11.09 21:42:00 - [5]

That would be nice if CCP would. I wonder if Gallente History was ever given much thought at all. As earlier querried on, where are the Mannars? Are they Minmatars that have been absorbed into the Gallete Federation or are they a completely seperate race? Rolling Eyes

Shintoko Akahoshi
Risen Angels
Posted - 2003.11.10 03:29:00 - [6]

It's my impression that the Mannars are an entirely different race.

According to the timeline, the Gallente met the Mannar in 22809, while first contact with the Amarr wasn't until 23180. This contact is credited with prompting the end of the Caldari-Gallente war, as the Gallente supposedly perceived the Amarr as a greater threat than the Caldari. Since the Amarr had already conquered the Minmatar by that point, any Minmatar that the Gallente would have met would be escaped slaves who would bring knowledge of the Amarr Empire. If the Gallente had encountered these Minmatar, it would have prompted the end of the war at an even earlier time.

On an unrelated note, I'm actually quite happy with the level of background provided by CCP. They've created a high-level framework for history and culture in Eve, leaving enough unsaid to give players the opportunity to add their own material. It also leaves the door open for future expansion, something that is often missing from more detailed backgrounds.

Shintoko Akahoshi
Risen Angels
Posted - 2003.11.10 03:31:00 - [7]

One thing I'm really looking forward to is the ability to add notes to your character that other players can see. That way you could, for instance, decide that you were going to play a Mannar. You'd write in your character notes a little blurb about your character and how they are a Mannar and then everyone you met could see that.

Shintoko Akahoshi
Risen Angels
Posted - 2003.11.10 03:39:00 - [8]

Another thing that seems like a fun way to "complexify" Gallente society is for people to roleplay characters outside of the typical Gallente-Intaki spectrum. For instance, Shintoko is not Gallente nor Intaki (see "Evocations" in the library for more). Her people only recently joined the federation. That's provided some interesting opportunities for roleplay. Another for instance would be someone who's created a Minmatar character to roleplay them as one of the Minmatar members of the federation.

I need to shut up now... Very Happy

FarCry Inc
Posted - 2003.11.10 05:19:00 - [9]

Shintoko, I would have to agree, even though the Gallente history may be the shortest one, there is enough specific info for the players to make the history, to tell their stories, of their 'grand parents' stories. The creative can have a field day with the opportunity.

Hodokie Seek
Old Farts Drinking Club
Posted - 2003.11.11 03:26:00 - [10]

When all is said and done, I hope it's the player base that is the history of Eve down the road.


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