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HankMurphy
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Posted - 2006.10.27 00:15:00 - [1]
 


did i miss this somewhere? did they state what the NPC type(s) will be?

I heard someone mention rogue drones, but no idea if that was just hot air or not.

CCP Mephysto

Posted - 2006.10.27 09:22:00 - [2]
 

NPC's in the new regions are Rogue Drones.

Ficti0n
Heavens Gate Consortium
Posted - 2006.10.27 09:25:00 - [3]
 

Does this mean, no bounty and no mods in their loot?

Just alloys as usual?

Kapitanleutnant Mei
Posted - 2006.10.27 09:30:00 - [4]
 

no as they are asteroid npc's they have bounties.. don;t know aboutb thier loot drops though

PKlavins
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2006.10.27 09:33:00 - [5]
 

will they have the equivalent of officer spawns? like domination angels...er...ubarpwnage drone? Shocked

keepiru
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2006.10.27 10:29:00 - [6]
 

Atm they just drop alloys & compounds, but they're very unfinished - some still lack bounties, there are no baddies above 1m-ish isk, etc.

Bermag
Point-Zero
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2006.10.27 10:46:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Mephysto
NPC's in the new regions are Rogue Drones.


I thought the rogue drones were only place holders.

One good thing, ratting without negative standing agaisnt a faction. Does killing rogue drones give security level boost?

Miss Overlord
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.10.27 11:02:00 - [8]
 

i thought that u were going to add quite a lot of randomness out there (UDI,EOM type rats as well as rogue drones and other named goodies i think for now tho the rogue drones are the first implementation of more diversity over time out in the new regions)

FawKa
Gallente
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2006.10.27 11:25:00 - [9]
 

no loot?

or Faction domi bpc's?
faction drones?

give me Shocked

The Armin
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.10.27 12:00:00 - [10]
 

And a question I've been wondering about, will we see any of the excisting NPC pirate factions move into the new regions, or will we see any of the new NPC pirates move into alraedy excisting regions ?

Like for an instance will the Guristas conquer the North of the new regions, and Angels the southeast one, will the drones conquer Tenal etc ? =P

(By this I mean just in roids, no npc stations pls :o))

MindBender
Lyonesse.
Posted - 2006.10.27 17:27:00 - [11]
 

There are Drones in the new regions, they only drop alloys, but they drop high ammounts. There have been spotted up to 5million bounty Drones (TOUGH too) but I've been told they are a rarity.

Drones are camping gates and in Belts from what I've seen.

John Blackthorn
Foundation
Posted - 2006.10.27 18:24:00 - [12]
 

Dropping alloyws is all good and everything.. but how are you going to get them to empire to refine them? Pos can't refine them that i'm aware of. No outposts :P

-John

Johnathan Roark
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.10.27 19:08:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: John Blackthorn
Dropping alloyws is all good and everything.. but how are you going to get them to empire to refine them? Pos can't refine them that i'm aware of. No outposts :P

-John


I'd be willing to help any group that takes a region solve that problem for a price.

I'm willing to bet we see at least one outpost in the new regions within the first month.

Black Scorpio
Posted - 2006.10.27 19:49:00 - [14]
 

signed.

FroztByteUK
Posted - 2006.10.27 20:36:00 - [15]
 

shh... rogue drones are relly controlled by the jovians and they dont want you to think that they are really controlling the rest of eve..... so keep it quiet....

CCP Mephysto

Posted - 2006.10.27 22:28:00 - [16]
 

Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too.

Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2006.10.27 22:39:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Mephysto
Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too.
Won't this screw up the economy in that part of space though? No one will actually make money, they'll just get stuff that they can sell for money(possibly inducing deflation?).

Father Weebles
Celestial Refraction
Posted - 2006.10.27 22:49:00 - [18]
 

no offense, but rogue drones with no bounties (and prolly no sec increase) is probably a bad idea. Confused

bluecheast
Waiting for Palli
WILD BOARS
Posted - 2006.10.27 23:18:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Verite Rendition
Originally by: Mephysto
Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too.
Won't this screw up the economy in that part of space though? No one will actually make money, they'll just get stuff that they can sell for money(possibly inducing deflation?).


Thats an awsome counter inflation effort then

HankMurphy
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Posted - 2006.10.27 23:24:00 - [20]
 


Originally by: Mephysto
NPC's in the new regions are Rogue Drones.


badarse! a common statement is : Angels are the toughest NPCs in eve (due to 3 damage types, exp focus etc..). Well iirc Rouge Drones have quite a spread of damage types and can be pretty nasty in their hive packs.

I cant wait to see what you have in store for us

Originally by: Verite Rendition
Won't this screw up the economy in that part of space though?


What economy? No stations, no regional markets and escrows. Sure there will be outposts eventually, but i think the idea of the new regions is something that we haven't seen yet in eve.

The resources surrounding you will be very valuable, i'm guessing enough to fuel some nice sized cap fleets and many many outposts. But cashing in on them (for the average solo ratting pilot) wont be so easy.

Originally by: Father Weebles
no offense, but rogue drones with no bounties (and prolly no sec increase) is probably a bad idea. Confused


just cause something is different, i dont think its necessarily bad. Especially when the minerals you can get off those drones will likely be worth much more than the average rat bounty.

Cividari
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2006.10.27 23:32:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Mephysto
Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too.



I really love this idea. It will greatly help establishing a market there with the high ammount of minerals it will create.

Ronin Reborn
Bi-Polar Bears
Posted - 2006.10.27 23:41:00 - [22]
 

Forgive me for a stupid question, but having never run a bunch of missions or complexes I know little about rogue drones. All the ones I've seen are small, frigates would be an applicable to compare. Are there going to be larger drone rats, ie cruiser and BS sized? Warp scrambling rats? Sounds different indeed, however if they drop alloys I could see the new regions being either extremely rich or poor. However, I DO think that a group of players with a lot of bpos (and pos(s)/outpost) could stay out there indeffinately due to it.

Father Weebles
Celestial Refraction
Posted - 2006.10.27 23:44:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Father Weebles on 27/10/2006 23:47:16
yeah the minerals might be worth a lot but who in their right mind would want to haul a ****load of mins through 00 entries and sell it when its 15+ jumps back to empire

keep the old system please

"rat" hunting will be nothing more than a mining op

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2006.10.27 23:51:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Ronin Reborn
Forgive me for a stupid question, but having never run a bunch of missions or complexes I know little about rogue drones. All the ones I've seen are small, frigates would be an applicable to compare. Are there going to be larger drone rats, ie cruiser and BS sized? Warp scrambling rats? Sounds different indeed, however if they drop alloys I could see the new regions being either extremely rich or poor. However, I DO think that a group of players with a lot of bpos (and pos(s)/outpost) could stay out there indeffinately due to it.


They do have BS sizes too- "Infested" Dominixes. The rest, to date, have all been frigates though.

Alex Logan
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.10.27 23:52:00 - [25]
 

The 'old system' is still there, it's in every 0.0 system currently in existence...

Would you rather ccp injected something new and exciting into the game or continued pumping out same old same old?

Father Weebles
Celestial Refraction
Posted - 2006.10.28 00:03:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Father Weebles on 28/10/2006 00:03:10
id rather make iskies and get sec increases rather than glorified mining

Alex Logan
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.10.28 00:55:00 - [27]
 

Did you even read what I wrote ?

You can already do that in EVERY 0.0 region in the gameWink

Why should ccp add more of the same ?

Do you not want more diversity in the game ?

Erotic Irony
0bsession
Posted - 2006.10.28 01:29:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Cividari
Originally by: Mephysto
Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too.



I really love this idea. It will greatly help establishing a market there with the high ammount of minerals it will create.


Has anyone speculated if it was worth it in terms of fuel cost and hassle to move into these regions? Don't only the top two or three alloys even yield mega/zyd in respectable amounts? Right now it seems like it seems like its hardly worth the effort.

Just add a few 15/15 drone complexes with infested fighters and carriers to these new regions and lets all get back to farming.

Illuminaty
Posted - 2006.10.28 02:56:00 - [29]
 

So let me get this straight:

-Rouge Drones (that do all 4 types of damage)
-No bounties
-No Modules, much less named modules
-No Sec Status
-No faction standings

-No officer/faction modules

So all you get from ratting is a cargohold full of stuff that has no other use than to refine to minerals.

I'm wondering if they are going to continue with the 90% of 0.0 is trash, and 10% is over the top, wealth distribution and make it basically 100% pointless to rat in anything other than -1.0 systems because all you'll end up with is a cargohold full of compounds that give you trit with some pyre mixed in.

At least make them drop BPCs for named modules or _something_.

I guess the bright side is that since ISS lives in space that nobody else wants, we might get 8 regions to set outposts up in.


I mean, yea, I've got a bit of sarcasm here, but this no bounty, no module thing just isn't striking me as a good idea at all.

MissileRus
Posted - 2006.10.28 03:13:00 - [30]
 

these will be regions that are fought over for the new resources as i get it so i dont mind if there isnt any bounty on the rats. minerals will be good for the ones that builds the first refining outpost. there will be more war in these regions then ratting hopefully ugh


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