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Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2006.10.11 00:30:00 - [1]
 

i was attacked by a hostile right before i logged... i managed to escape, i was brinign stuff back from a reprocessing station. (ecm bursts ftw mates :P ) i just wanted to know if its considerd bad manners or somesuch to log off after escaping a attack when you have to go anyways... is it?

GrumpyCat
Republic University
Posted - 2006.10.11 00:33:00 - [2]
 

Have you logged back on? Your ship is probably destroyed. You don't emergency warp for 15 minutes if you've been aggressed or have agressed.

Nerf Caldari
Posted - 2006.10.11 00:44:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Nerf Caldari on 11/10/2006 01:07:35
Never, ever, ever, ever, EVER log off to avoid death under ANY circumstances.

EDIT: Oooohhh..... You logged *after* you got out.

Egh, well, after chasing around war targets for 20 minutes just to have them log out on me as soon as I get them on scanner, I certainly wouldn't say it's good form. But it isn't exactly a sin, either.

Nicolae Rasputin
Amarr
House Jin Rei
Posted - 2006.10.11 01:00:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Lance Fighter
i was attacked by a hostile right before i logged... i managed to escape, i was brinign stuff back from a reprocessing station. (ecm bursts ftw mates :P ) i just wanted to know if its considerd bad manners or somesuch to log off after escaping a attack when you have to go anyways... is it?


Assuming I am reading something here that the other posters aren't, you said you logged off AFTER you escaped, correct? If you escaped, ran for distance, made your destination and docked THEN you logged out because you had to leave it's perfectly acceptable.On the other hand if someone logs out TO escape being destroyed then that would be considered bad manners and poor gamesmanship.

However, since you said you escaped it's fine. It's not like you had to call off your appointment, be late for work, tell your date you were running late, etc. just so you could wait for 15 minutes after being attacked and docking. Whoever was attacking you probably had already moved on to their next target. There's no set rules of engagement that state "You must stay logged in and twiddle your thumbs once you've docked after being attacked for at least 15 minutes before having a life."

As it was said above, just don't log off as a means to avoid the combat.

Miyoko Sanae
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2006.10.11 01:01:00 - [5]
 

Do what you need to do.

Dust Angel
Harvest System
Posted - 2006.10.11 01:03:00 - [6]
 

Logging when being attacked is considered bad form. If you warped away and at a planet, then decide to log, its not bad form imo.

Fuujin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.10.11 01:05:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Fuujin on 11/10/2006 01:06:29
If you've logged out after escaping then it's nothing to worry about, though it tends to be more fun to go afk in a station and make the attacker waste his time for a bit trying to catch you.

Kai Lae
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.10.11 01:43:00 - [8]
 

Perfectly ok in my book if you managed to escape the attack and then logged afterwards. As already noted be aware of the 15 minute timer however, so it might not be a good idea.

Complacency's Bane
Caldari
Posted - 2006.10.11 02:21:00 - [9]
 

IMO, if you arent scrambled, you have the in-game ability to evade combat indefinately and logging changes nothing.

The only problems with logging occur when its used as an escape from a situation where there is no other escape (I.E. you're scrambled/about to be scrambled and you cant get out). When logging changes the outcome of a battle, it is a problem.

Karoth Tyu
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.10.11 02:24:00 - [10]
 

Logging out while under attack in a hauler = You suck.
Logging out after escaping in a hauler = They suck.

GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2006.10.11 03:04:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: GrumpyCat
Have you logged back on? Your ship is probably destroyed. You don't emergency warp for 15 minutes if you've been aggressed or have agressed.
Uh, wrong. You warp away as soon as the server realizes you're gone (=right away if you quit). Believe me (didn't matter in the end though, because unfortunately for some people, we have scan probes Laughing ).

Miss Overlord
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.10.11 03:05:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Karoth Tyu
Logging out while under attack in a hauler = You suck.
Logging out after escaping in a hauler = They suck.


agree 100%

Brem Watson
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.10.11 03:16:00 - [13]
 

To the OP, you did what is done in the Matrix movies. Run to the phone booth, pick up the phone and make it back to real life before you get killed.


Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2006.10.11 21:51:00 - [14]
 

well, it is AFTER i got away.. :)
i happened to fit a ecm burst for them pesky rats that are fast, but t worked fine in this application also.
Thanks mates

Miss Overlord
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.10.11 21:54:00 - [15]
 

ECM burst has long been an effective in close defensive module against gate campers just a shame more dont use it but u need to be warping before the sentries get u to.

Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2006.10.11 21:56:00 - [16]
 

hehe ive not been in highsec/ lowsec for any time... exept for missions, when i clone jump to do those. it was a 0.0 system.

Detavi Kade
Posted - 2006.10.11 22:00:00 - [17]
 

nice maneuver. I've fitted ECM burst on a few of my travelling ships just in case of these scenarios. I have worried though about sentry guns.

In anycase, seems if you are traveling at top speed in direction of warp, one pulse of the ecm burst might just break you free from a warp scram. All theory of course, I have not had to actually do this.

aeti
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.10.11 22:01:00 - [18]
 

logging out before getting shot
logging out before decloaking after jumping into bubbles
logging out whilst jumping before you load the system
scanning a gate you are warping to and logging in warp before you drop out if you see something bad

le bad
;[

Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2006.10.11 22:03:00 - [19]
 

the ecm burst took 2 runs, (31 sec of waiting...) and dont work like jammers. They make you lose your target if you roll right, but they can lock again instantly.
btw, my hauler is still alive :)

Miss Overlord
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.10.11 22:05:00 - [20]
 

still used right is a valuable module to have fitted

Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
Posted - 2006.10.11 22:20:00 - [21]
 

you logged after escaping, not bad form. the enemy failed to prevent escape and therefore lost the kill from the start.

Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Posted - 2006.10.12 02:13:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Lance Fighter
i was attacked by a hostile right before i logged... i managed to escape, i was brinign stuff back from a reprocessing station. (ecm bursts ftw mates :P ) i just wanted to know if its considerd bad manners or somesuch to log off after escaping a attack when you have to go anyways... is it?


If you log with agro they have 15mins to probe you out. Personally if you get away and stay away for long enough for the agro timer to run down then I'd say you have escaped and have no shame in logging out. If you logged right after you got away there is a good chance you have been probed out and killed.

If RL calls urgently then take the risk of the log-out timer seeing you lose your ship. You'd have to be very unlucky to have a RL emergency in the middle of a fight though.

Logging to escape a fight is lame, it's like 'winning' eve by never playing it. Sadly I see it all the time. Of course sometimes you just CTD but if that happens I log right back in and face the music. So far the nearest I have got to a CTD in combat was a very embarrasing evening when my vid card was playing up. Every time I dropped a dictor sphere my system would reboot. Embarassed I got a new card the next day.

Jiara Castoumi
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.10.12 02:42:00 - [23]
 

It might be polite to say in local "sorry i have to log, youll have to try kill me later" before logging, if you dont wat to be marked as a logger.

DuckM4n Vo
Posted - 2006.10.12 05:14:00 - [24]
 

let ppl play however they want, go ahead and log

Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Posted - 2006.10.12 05:36:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: DuckM4n Vo
let ppl play however they want, go ahead and log


Play however you want. Logging out of the game is not playing the game though. Meta-gaming has always been lame and nobody likes cheats.

I can see it now. Tee up a game of chess with some Russian grand master, set the board, make the opening moves and play. Then, just as he goes to make the checkmate move you grab all your pieces and run out of the room. Rolling Eyes

When did this become acceptable? Am I just getting old? I'm a gamer, I play games. Win, lose or draw I play. It is a game for crying out loud, you will not actually die if you lose the fight! Lose a few fights you start to learn some skills, then you start winning. If you run from every challenge you will never learn anything and never feel the joy of a true victory or the sweet sorrow of a glorious defeat.

Enough with the alt scouts, enough with the EBay ISK, enough of the logging in and out of combat and enough of all the borderline "yet to be classified" exploits. Just play the damn game or don't play it at all.

Here's an idea, if you don't ever log in you can never lose a ship. If you never lose a ship then you don't have any expenses so you don't need to worry about making ISK. In fact save $14 a month, spend it on some beers and sit on your porch gloating over how you have a perfect loss:kill ratio and nobody in Eve can touch you.

F12 and Ctrl+Q are not for combat.

Noluck Ned
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2006.10.12 08:29:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Miyoko Sanae
Do what you need to do.


This statement is an example of why the rest of us are always going to enjoy playing a lot more than you ever will.

Honour and mutual respect are EARNED. Hitting the I-win button every time YOU screw up(with the abundance of ways to avoid being ganked its YOUR fault when you do)is not going to earn you anything but contempt.
Take your losses with head held high and be gracious in victory.
This is what makes the truly great pilots stand head and shoulders above the rabble and cheap griefers.
Eve has grown and reputation might not mean as much as it once did, however you will always be lowest of the low, even if the only one who knows it is you.


Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleet Yards
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2006.10.12 09:56:00 - [27]
 

Logging out as a hauler = bad form in any shape or form
Logging out to set up a login trap = tactical genius

It always depends on whom you ask :P

Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Posted - 2006.10.12 10:14:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Tharrn
Logging out as a hauler = bad form in any shape or form
Logging out to set up a login trap = tactical genius

It always depends on whom you ask :P



In gaming terms anything that requires you to be out of the game then suddenly enter it to get the drop on an enemy is not a tactic. In terms of the game tactics can only exist within the game, everything else is just meta-bull****.

So 1PG have jumped on the log-in trap bandwagon too now?

Iyanah
Minmatar
Tuikoax
Posted - 2006.10.12 10:22:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Fuujin
Edited by: Fuujin on 11/10/2006 01:06:29
If you've logged out after escaping then it's nothing to worry about, though it tends to be more fun to go afk in a station and make the attacker waste his time for a bit trying to catch you.


you may wish to add to this some comments such as "can't even take down one little hauler" (or words to that effect) into local whilst you're parked at the station, get them really annoyed :P

Joop
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2006.10.12 10:52:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Originally by: DuckM4n Vo
let ppl play however they want, go ahead and log


Play however you want. Logging out of the game is not playing the game though. Meta-gaming has always been lame and nobody likes cheats.

I can see it now. Tee up a game of chess with some Russian grand master, set the board, make the opening moves and play. Then, just as he goes to make the checkmate move you grab all your pieces and run out of the room. Rolling Eyes

When did this become acceptable? Am I just getting old? I'm a gamer, I play games. Win, lose or draw I play. It is a game for crying out loud, you will not actually die if you lose the fight! Lose a few fights you start to learn some skills, then you start winning. If you run from every challenge you will never learn anything and never feel the joy of a true victory or the sweet sorrow of a glorious defeat.

Enough with the alt scouts, enough with the EBay ISK, enough of the logging in and out of combat and enough of all the borderline "yet to be classified" exploits. Just play the damn game or don't play it at all.

Here's an idea, if you don't ever log in you can never lose a ship. If you never lose a ship then you don't have any expenses so you don't need to worry about making ISK. In fact save $14 a month, spend it on some beers and sit on your porch gloating over how you have a perfect loss:kill ratio and nobody in Eve can touch you.

F12 and Ctrl+Q are not for combat.



Someone is verry bitter.

Who cares about logging. Who cares people are gonna say its lame. Its part of the game and you cant do anything about

My advise, Just move on to your next target.


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