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Captain Stephanie
Posted - 2006.10.10 18:28:00 - [1]
 

I recently started mining in 0.0 and need a new industrial after losing one last night. I had a Sigil with all expanders in the lows. I warped into the belt to collect ore from my can but found some new rats had spawned right at the can. One warp scrambled me and there goes my Sigil.

So what I need is a Industrial that can fit one warp core stab, and with expanders have 9200m/s so in 3 trips I can empty a jet can. It also should have enough mids to fit 2 hardeners and a booster, maybe an AB as well. And a high for a tractor beam.

What ship is going to do the job best and fastest with a racial industrial skill at level 3?

Shasinaha
Posted - 2006.10.10 18:37:00 - [2]
 

Well I take it you have lvl 3 in amarr, but if you're in 0.0 and you aren't using a tank to tank the rats while mining you might want to just get lvl 5 industrial and get transport ship and use a Prorator or Impel

Personally I like the Prorator for the job, it cannot hold as much, but ive never had a rat scram me due to the +2 built in wcs strength. If you go Impel which is fine, probably fit it as such, and it can tank a fair bit.

Other then that and keep in industrial, all I can say is pretty much use a buddy or an alt account, since they die easy to those sided mobs.

Captain Stephanie
Posted - 2006.10.10 23:01:00 - [3]
 

Like I said I want the ship that can do this at racial industrial skill at level 3. Won't be taking a month+ to train for transport ships.

GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2006.10.10 23:07:00 - [4]
 

There are no industrial ships that meet those qualifications. The Bestower comes close, but comes about 130 m^3 short. Everybody else carries even less than that, or requires racial industrial skill above three.

If you wanted to train the industrial skill to level four, the Mammoth is sheer ownage, and could manage 11k m^3, a WCS, and a five slot shield tank.

death chant
Kensai Inc.
Posted - 2006.10.10 23:09:00 - [5]
 

Just for the record, rats in belts dont warp scram.

inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
Asomat Drive Yards
Posted - 2006.10.10 23:13:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: death chant
Just for the record, rats in belts dont warp scram.
Sure they do. Not up in newbie land, but NPC interceptors in 0.4 and below do. Wink

Freyda
Gallente
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation
CURSE.
Posted - 2006.10.10 23:14:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: death chant
Just for the record, rats in belts dont warp scram.


urm.. some do. I've been warp scrambled by a rat in a 0.2 system while mining before.
Thankfully I was well equipped for the rats in 0.2 space.

Commander Thrawn
M. Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2006.10.10 23:15:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: death chant
Just for the record, rats in belts dont warp scram.


lol ya they do

death chant
Kensai Inc.
Posted - 2006.10.10 23:18:00 - [9]
 

Must be something new, I've only been ratting in feyth the last year, and no rats here warp scram :\ Sorry then, and it was completely offtopic off me :p

Mordorg
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2006.10.11 00:13:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Captain Stephanie
I recently started mining in 0.0 and need a new industrial after losing one last night. I had a Sigil with all expanders in the lows. I warped into the belt to collect ore from my can but found some new rats had spawned right at the can. One warp scrambled me and there goes my Sigil.

So what I need is a Industrial that can fit one warp core stab, and with expanders have 9200m/s so in 3 trips I can empty a jet can. It also should have enough mids to fit 2 hardeners and a booster, maybe an AB as well. And a high for a tractor beam.

What ship is going to do the job best and fastest with a racial industrial skill at level 3?



None at Industrial 3, and Industrial 4 a mammoth would be a option. Its not bad at all. Depending on what will be shooting you. You can get 13k m3 with T1 expanders, and still have 5 mids for harnders/extenders/whatever.

Dexton
Caldari
Posted - 2006.10.11 00:28:00 - [11]
 

I just have to say IWinButton the answer to this question and all other in eve is CALDARI, Badger mark II 2x hi slots 6x mids 3x lows(2xexpanders,1xwcs) u will get alitle less than 10km^3 with skills at lvl 3 and best expanders but i think its the ship for u.

GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2006.10.11 01:07:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Dexton
I just have to say IWinButton the answer to this question and all other in eve is CALDARI, Badger mark II 2x hi slots 6x mids 3x lows(2xexpanders,1xwcs) u will get alitle less than 10km^3 with skills at lvl 3 and best expanders but i think its the ship for u.
I hate to break it to you, but if he had the best named expanders, his Sigil would do the trick (9,700).

So yeah, most industrial ships can do that with leet expanders. Mammoth > Badger I, II, or maybe even III. Laughing Caldari Industrial V for the win!

Sphit Ker
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2006.10.11 01:37:00 - [13]
 

A Bestower *can* do this. Say hello to Giant Secure Containers.

Install 3 cargo expander modules which will give you about 9069m3 which is good enough to fit 3 Giant Secure Containers (3 GSC will hold 11,700 M3 (3.900m3 x 3))in its belly while leaving a free low slots for the Warp Core Stab.

It have 3 mid slots for your hardening stuff and two high for tractor beams.

I fly this thing as my ore hauler everyday day since two months. It need 3 trips for a full jet can.

Dexton
Caldari
Posted - 2006.10.11 09:08:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: GC13
Originally by: Dexton
I just have to say IWinButton the answer to this question and all other in eve is CALDARI, Badger mark II 2x hi slots 6x mids 3x lows(2xexpanders,1xwcs) u will get alitle less than 10km^3 with skills at lvl 3 and best expanders but i think its the ship for u.
I hate to break it to you, but if he had the best named expanders, his Sigil would do the trick (9,700).

So yeah, most industrial ships can do that with leet expanders. Mammoth > Badger I, II, or maybe even III. Laughing Caldari Industrial V for the win!


Since when does the sigil have 4 mid slots? plz if u got one of those sell it to him. 1xshield booster + 2xhardeners + 1 ab= 4 items that fitt into mid slots, also the sigil needs more than 4 expanders to get 9200+ m^3 leaving no space for a stab.

Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Veto.
Posted - 2006.10.11 11:09:00 - [15]
 

Mammoth:

Tractor beam
2x hardeners, med booster, extender, 10mn AB
2x WCS, 2x mark 1 expanders

Gives you 9700 m/3 cargo with 1k shields @ 60/70/55/40 using em+invuln.

Down side requires minmatar industrial 4.

GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2006.10.11 14:24:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Dexton
Since when does the sigil have 4 mid slots? plz if u got one of those sell it to him. 1xshield booster + 2xhardeners + 1 ab= 4 items that fitt into mid slots, also the sigil needs more than 4 expanders to get 9200+ m^3 leaving no space for a stab.
For one, the afterburner is pointless if he has a tractor beam and instas. If he doesn't have them, it will be painful hauling even with the afterburner.

Two, with your "best named expanders" scenario (totally ridiculous, I might add), the Sigil CAN get 9700 with just four low slots. Remember, +15% from the industrial skill.

Captain Stephanie
Posted - 2006.10.11 17:10:00 - [17]
 

Yeah I got instas' and a tractor beam, I don't really want to spend another 4 days training a industrial skill up to lvl 4, so I guess that leaves the Badger II and Bestower.

What I'm wondering now, is if I have instas' would a Prototype Cloaking Device be a good thing to put in the extra hi slot? Never used one yet, but I'm thinking I could warp to a belt, cloak if there's rats, align to get out, and warp away before the rat's target me and warp scramble me. That way I free up a slot for another expander.

onyxy
Posted - 2006.10.11 17:59:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: onyxy on 11/10/2006 18:01:39
Yup that would work coz I do that all the time in 0.0
You align while cloaked then uncloak and warp away

Also very handy to cloak if any pirates appear Laughing


 

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