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Uinein
Caldari
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2006.10.09 20:35:00 - [61]
 

This story is everything these forums aren't, Factual!

m0jo
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.10.09 22:53:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: darth solo
serious question... whos the ASCN fleet commanders?. or do u even have any?. on sunday u guys lost 90 BS and killed noneShocked... i wouldnt have thought that was possible.. ill log on a an alt or something and call for you if ur finding fleet fights that hard.

You folks need good commanders asap... its turning into a turkey shoot.. you are making BOB look much better than they really are.

anyways, just an outsider looking in. but wow.

d solo.


I dont think they need help finding the X in the top right hand corner there darth.

Ab Initio
Gallente
Evolution
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.10.10 01:28:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Uinein
This story is everything these forums aren't, Factual!


While I agree that it is a good summary of the situation, theres not really anything that hasn't been said by BoB on these forums already. If you read through the relevant BoB posts, it gives a more detailed account of some of the areas included in that summery.

We're just a little more..... Passionate in our descriptions :)

Snare
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.10.10 01:32:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Ab Initio


We're just a little more..... Passionate in our descriptions :)


let me fix that for you

Originally by: Ab Initio


We're just a little more..... biased in our descriptions :)

Ab Initio
Gallente
Evolution
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.10.10 01:55:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Snare
Originally by: Ab Initio


We're just a little more..... Passionate in our descriptions :)


let me fix that for you

Originally by: Ab Initio


We're just a little more..... biased in our descriptions :)



There is a large difference between being biased, and being blunt. The difference between that post and ours, is that it's heavily sugarcoated. The numbers are the same.

Originally by: Eve Tribune

On Sunday, BoB forces were again mostly undisturbed, taking only three losses and causing 88 Battleship losses on ASCN side.



I do agree though, "mostly undisturbed" sounds much better than "busy slaughtering".

welsh wizard
Caldari
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2006.10.10 02:10:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/10/2006 02:18:28
Originally by: m0jo
Originally by: darth solo
serious question... whos the ASCN fleet commanders?. or do u even have any?. on sunday u guys lost 90 BS and killed noneShocked... i wouldnt have thought that was possible.. ill log on a an alt or something and call for you if ur finding fleet fights that hard.

You folks need good commanders asap... its turning into a turkey shoot.. you are making BOB look much better than they really are.

anyways, just an outsider looking in. but wow.

d solo.


I dont think they need help finding the X in the top right hand corner there darth.


bdum tsch!

Shadows of their formerselves, loggers, blobbers, empire choke point huggers, pirates, exploiters, station huggers, irrelevant etc etc

We've been called it all, and yet 3 years later we're still here showing everyones arse to the jumpgate.

Give it a rest.

Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.10.10 02:14:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: welsh wizard
We've been called it all, and yet 3 years later we're still here showing everyones arse to the jumpgates.



Isnt that called Mooning ppl ? LaughingLaughing j/k

No bob thread will ever be complete without celes coming in for some jolly good ole bouting , ahhh way intresting than the boring slump these forums was cpl of weeks ago.

welsh wizard
Caldari
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2006.10.10 02:15:00 - [68]
 

Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/10/2006 02:16:57
nm.

Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.10.10 02:18:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: welsh wizard

And yet one of your members started it!?

Wow!


So? Come on admit that u enjoy it also same as we do , or u rather get back to 1 post a day about dishonoring 1vs1 or robinhood is a corp thief Wink

welsh wizard
Caldari
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2006.10.10 02:23:00 - [70]
 

Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/10/2006 02:25:53
I hate it Yazoul, I really do hate the Eve-O forums when it degenerates into all this crap.

Talk to any of my corp mates, I believe you're friends with and live close to LordChaos? The inside joke is that "welsh is a pacifist", "welsh feels sorry for the enemy when he ganks them", "welsh just wants everyone to have fun etc".

I just don't like negative comments about my friends, I feel obliged to defend them on the forums when its neccessary. Guess that makes me a smack talker, I just hate arguing with people who I know probably think like me but are sat on the opposite side of the fence.

It's a shame, the forums suck but misconstrued facts (in my eyes) must be righted.

Daniel Grim
Minmatar
Fighters of the Rising Sun
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2006.10.10 03:37:00 - [71]
 

*snip* Please post with your main and dont post killmail links -Eldo

Ab Initio
Gallente
Evolution
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.10.10 03:41:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Daniel Grim
*snip* Please post with your main and dont post killmail links -Eldo


No, looks like a fake mail posted on the killboard.

Red Six
Minmatar
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.10.10 03:43:00 - [73]
 

Not true, no idea why someone posted that on ASCN's boards. The time stamp is about 18 or so hours in the future.

Rift Scorn
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.10.10 03:54:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Daniel Grim
*snip* Please post with your main and dont post killmail links -Eldo


This is complete crap. The only bump in we've had with CYVOK's new toy has been documented, smacked, locked, smacked again, post analyzed, smacked, locked for cleaning, smacked further, then moved onto something else someone said about something that happened.

I don't know who fabricated this trash, but it's pretty damn sad they couldn't sort the details out properly at the very least. Rolling Eyes



Mr AtLanTis
Amarr
Active Denial Services
Posted - 2006.10.10 03:55:00 - [75]
 

Edited by: Mr AtLanTis on 10/10/2006 03:55:29
Originally by: Daniel Grim
*snip* Please post with your main and dont post killmail links -Eldo


So, you post here, using an alt, and without looking at the thread thats about 4 threads below this about the same topic?

incase you cant read, here is the link: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=408210

Plan Neun
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.10.10 08:15:00 - [76]
 

Thanks for the link to Eve-Tribune. Very Happy
Site was unknown to me.


Latex Mistress
Minmatar
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2006.10.10 10:04:00 - [77]
 

CLS hired BDCI/FRICK (the inception of the MC) to help (first case of a target-turned-employer). CLS/ASCN brought on a bunch of ex-m0o a long while back (Bob GhengisKahn, Riddari, et al) to train FC's (or were they just hired guns?)

My point is that, if the above is true, CYVOK has shown considerable wisdom at times in the past regarding giving his people the support they need. To not do so now means either he's confident in the outcome of the Pendulum War or is victim of oversight (or worse).

Xavier Cardde
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.10.10 12:04:00 - [78]
 

in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory.

we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war.

Louisa Torres
Gallente
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.10.10 12:47:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Xavier Cardde
in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory.

we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war.


And here layeth a big part of why you will lose: Because you don't think you can win.

We have no doubt in our minds whatsoever, we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious. It is merely a question of time.

SkottE
Gallente
SkottE Technologies
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:03:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Third Down
FC == target caller? no good policy!

FC should be covops|recon, and he nominate damage dealer to call primary...!

other way is foolisjh
I know ppl who have flown blastathrons inj close range engagments ot have bee ngang leaders

Funky Feeling
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:03:00 - [81]
 

Please review the Alt rules for this forum here. Post with your main! -Eldo

Amthrianius
Gallente
Keiretsu
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:20:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: Amthrianius on 10/10/2006 13:20:48
Originally by: Uinein
This story is everything these forums aren't, Factual!


I prefer McGreedy's Analysis of the war

Originally by: McGreedy
Then came the lag. More precisely, the exploits used by BoB in ordered to crash the node and insta-log back on again in order to kill our fleet


Originally by: McGreedy
However I successfuly came up with a way to counter the node crash and we implemented that and from about 17.00 Eve time, a GM turned up in TCAG, meaning BoB couldn't crash the node


Originally by: McGreedy
Things were also not helped by a GM moving BoB en masse back into TPAR from TCAG just as ASCN was gaining the upper hand, then moving them back when we didn't expect it and without warning, allowing them to kill a sizeable proportion of our fleet. We're petitioning that.



Oh and last but not least

Originally by: McGreedy
So what am I saying? I'm presenting you with facts without propeganda or embelishment.




Lord Draco
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:31:00 - [83]
 

It's sad watching another xirtam being created in front of my eyes.Crying or Very sad

Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:34:00 - [84]
 

infact, they have several dork lords in one alliance! But credit where credit is due, atleast xirt is seen on the frontline Sad

DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:35:00 - [85]
 

Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 13:35:10
Bring back Halseth!

All is forgotten!

The crazy levels of paranoia in ASCN high command is going to split them wide apart faster than anything we could do or say.

Laughing

dbp

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:36:00 - [86]
 

Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/10/2006 13:40:48
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: Xavier Cardde
in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory.

we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war.


And here layeth a big part of why you will lose: Because you don't think you can win.

We have no doubt in our minds whatsoever, we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious. It is merely a question of time.


You will what? You havent stated ANY objectives, so how can you measure success?

You will note that crucially, he does not believe you can win either. What he says is true - the current game mechanics and server issues mean that a system-by-system seige of ASCN space is totally unrealistic. The most you can hope for are some node crashes and, if you are lucky, the odd lagged out fleet engagement.

As for you taking over ASCN space - quite simply, it will never happen. And everyone knows it. But thats the great thing about not stating any objectives, anything can be a 'victory' as you have not defined your goals.

I will add though, that by any measure ASCN kill/loss against BoB is terrible. I mean, its REALLY BAD. That is ASCN's problem, and I hope for your own sake you can sort it out. As Darth said, you are making them look better than they really are. Don't make excuses about node crashes, everyone is subject to the same server issues. Just learn from your mistakes, and get better.


Lord Draco
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:36:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Hast
infact, they have several dork lords in one alliance! But credit where credit is due, atleast xirt is seen on the frontline Sad


true true

I kinda miss the guy strangly enough.

Rod Blaine
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:39:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Lord Draco
It's sad watching another xirtam being created in front of my eyes.Crying or Very sad


Sad ? I'm laughing my ass off here !

DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:40:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 13:42:39
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: Xavier Cardde
in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory.

we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war.


And here layeth a big part of why you will lose: Because you don't think you can win.

We have no doubt in our minds whatsoever, we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious. It is merely a question of time.


You will what? You havent stated ANY objectives, so how can you measure success?


Just because we haven't stated any objectives to random people like you who have nothing to do with the conflict doesn't mean there are strict objectives set within the BoB leadership by which we can measure success.

Yet again your posting is amusing to me.

Thanks,
dbp

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2006.10.10 13:43:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: DB Preacher


Just because we haven't stated any objectives to random people like you who have nothing to do with the conflict doesn't mean there are strict objectives set within the BoB leadership.

Yet again your posting is amusing to me.

Thanks,
dbp


I understand perfectly that you will not wish to state your objectives.

However, I find it amusing that your forum warriors seem to hint at nothing less than the destruction of ASCN. They talk about 'win' and 'lose' in absolute terms.

This is an easy thing to do without clearly stated goals, and so only serves to make your forum warriors look foolish and short-sighted.



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