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Afonso Henriques
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:31:00 - [451]
 

Originally by: Durvaul
yeh, BOB invade ASCN, **** off half the southern alliances and get wtfpwned by them

Yeh

BOB, u just started a war you cant finish


Aren't you Mr. Happ?

Thought so...

Evil Thug
Minmatar
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:32:00 - [452]
 

Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.


Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?

Malachon Draco
Caldari
eXceeded
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:33:00 - [453]
 

Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Louisa Torres
I find it particularly amusing that the same people who have continuously stated we "avoid a challenge", [...] and "have started a war we can't finish".




agreed those comments are too much but comon the pre-emptive complaint about the lag was a bit rich


We can't complain about the lag, Gob, I've not seen anyone complain about it - what we've highlighted is the fact that CYVOK is prepared to sabotage THE CHANCE of having fun, to ensure victory.

Say what you like about us, that is beyond even our devious and twisted minds to implement. Hopefully our intent to avoid such a scenario will be enough but, ultimately, it's gonna take both sides to make it happen.


If you're gonna fight like you say you're gonna fight, the server might survive. Pointless blobbing one spot when your enemy attacks 3.

Unfortunately, there might just be a bandwagon effect, and that won't do anyone any good. But we'll see.

Lianhaun
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:35:00 - [454]
 

Originally by: Riddari
Hey Lianhaun, "back" so soon?
Hey Al Haquis, you know you didn't lift a finger for Unity?

See, thats all cryptic smack but understood by each one of them! It's in fact not smack but psy-war!



No idea what you mean, perhaps you dont know me as well as youŽd like to think.

Also I didnŽt hear UŽK complain about a lack of support form their old buddies, everyone knows they only need to say the word and people rush to their add waving Minnie banners and screaming anti slavery slogans.

Afonso Henriques
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:35:00 - [455]
 

Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.


Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?


so true man, so very very true.

My ex-huzzah freinds inform me of exctly what you mean.

Durvaul
Caldari
Eyssian Securities Agency
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:35:00 - [456]
 

Originally by: Afonso Henriques
Originally by: Durvaul
yeh, BOB invade ASCN, **** off half the southern alliances and get wtfpwned by them

Yeh

BOB, u just started a war you cant finish


Aren't you Mr. Happ?

Thought so...


Who? And no, this is my main, i have been reading this forum for about a month and making my own decisions based on what i read, i don't think bob can win.

Stamm
Amarr
RHC
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:36:00 - [457]
 

Originally by: Shin Ra
I used to hate these thread, but with the way the forums have been going lately, this so soooo refreshing.




Because it makes everybody forget how badly BE screwed up, by ****ing away the merc reputation you had gained lately?

wazaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Amarr
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:36:00 - [458]
 

Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu (mods@ccpgames.com)

TheLast0ne
Caldari
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:36:00 - [459]
 

Edited by: TheLast0ne on 28/09/2006 21:37:12
There is way too many c o c k y people that post on this forum.

Selpy
Caldari
Penumbra Military Industrial Complex
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:37:00 - [460]
 

Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Itzena
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
We don't play Sim City, we want action and fun fleet fights.

If you want 'fun fights', why is BoB's standard move before a battle begins to come onto these forums and run smear campaigns against whoever you're fighting? Confused


Tradition?

Razz


LOL

Khayman33
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:40:00 - [461]
 

Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Mostly I just hope we get enough huge fights (and let's face it, fights in ASCN home turf are going to be HUGE) to draw more attention to fixing the large fleet/POS issues within the game. If this conflict serves to crystalize dev attention to these issues, then regardless of who wins/loses the benefit to all will be enormous.

Clearly, I hope you ALL die. But mostly I just hope CCP works out a better way to keep the nodes happy enough to allow this to happen.

Have fun!

Agree !

Cmd Woodlouse
Minmatar
moon7empler
Ev0ke
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:42:00 - [462]
 

Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.


Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?


Then its not an "alliance" you are speaking of.

Ofc wars are won by morale. And morale in territorial wars = gaining/losing territorial objects like Outposts.

Now see how you can achieve that. Not by killing BS/Supportcraft. Its by killing Posses and keeping up your own. Rest is patience and in worst cases only waiting in ur own Pos forcefield for something to happen...

stephane devaulx
Gallente
The Rough Riders
Ares Protectiva
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:42:00 - [463]
 

Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu (mods@ccpgames.com)

Adhamhnon
Amarr
Nocturnal Image Exploration and Salvage
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:43:00 - [464]
 

You know what would be really nice? How about everybody, ASCN and BoB, stop auditioning for a leading role on the WoW kiddiesmack forums and just have a good fight? I know, I'm living in some fantasyworld where people might show a little respect for each other and just have a good time playing a GAME, but hey, I can dream.



WildHope
Gallente
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:44:00 - [465]
 

Edited by: WildHope on 28/09/2006 21:44:51
Ahhh the nostalgia...

Threads like these make me want to login.

DoctorGonzo
Caldari
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:51:00 - [466]
 

Excellent - I may have to come out of retirement! Wink


DarkXeRoX
Amarr
Mind Games.
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:51:00 - [467]
 

Good hunting BoB \0/

New toys explode better as old ones :P

Goberth Ludwig
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.09.28 21:54:00 - [468]
 

Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.


corps hating (YES, HATING) each other


ET I think you know a lot less about ascn than you think you do

Steel Rat
Amarr
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:00:00 - [469]
 

Edited by: Steel Rat on 28/09/2006 22:05:30
Originally by: Havras

Don't be so utterly stupid, it's embarrasing to read.

Do you really think we don't have enough space? We don't play Sim City, we want action and fun fleet fights. It's your alliance leader that's threatening to crash the servers remember.

We offer the gift of combat and you in turn squeel and threaten to bring down the servers.

gg ASCN, way to ruin any respect you might have garnered.




Ya know, I wasn't going to post but I have pretty much had enough. 15 pages of utter BS (frankly from both sides).

First off, far as I am concerned, BOB lost ANY respect and friendship they had with me the moment they started this and that was last nite when they sent their "Diplomat" and friend to my teamspeak server to deliver the news. BoB has chosen to go after the 2 alliances in the game that have always given them respect, helped when asked against their worst enemies (G/D2/Iron, etc.) and yet when its time for BoB to go out in a Blaze of Glory, BoB doesn't chose their enemies to shoot, they chose the people that they have the most friends with but obviously ZERO respect for.

Why are they shooting ASCN and AXE? Not because we have sworn to forever kill them, not because we threatened to take their space some day, not because we exploit but because unlike their real enemies, we actually fight. We don't run around using every exploit in the book like their real enemies, we don't log off and use login traps like their real enemies, we don't fit 4 WCS per raven and log anytime a threat shows up, no, we fight. We lose some, we win some but we fight.

Now BoB comes on these forums posting how ASCN is going to deliberately crash nodes and do this and that, blah blah blah. When the reality is, BoB chose this war with the largest Alliance in the game. We did not choose this war. They have PURPOSEFULLY chosen this war knowing full well that the current state of Eve, the game mechanics and the hardware, can not in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM handle what is about to take place. And now they have used these forums as an avenue to start their smackwar with their FRIENDS to JUSTIY their BS and what is about to take place. Instead of waiting for kali and hopefully new hardware coming in the near future that would allow us to actually have a fight that might be halfway enjoyable, you prefer this. And then you want to f'in smack about it. Sheesh.

No one is going to win this war. The servers and lag are going to be the only winners. And any of you who come on these forums and post such f'in rubbish as I have quoted above are just lame. You guys know this game as well and in most cases better than most of us. YOU KNOW EXACTLY whats going to happen whether its with or without the intent of ASCN. But you chose to do this to prove a point, a point mainly to CCP and yet you chose to do it against many people who considered you friends and at the very least respected you. If you think the servers can handle this kind of war, you are insane. If you think I should just tell my alliance to logoff and let you take my station because "oh its disrespectful to BoB if the node crashes" while we TRY TO F'IN DEFEND OUR STATIONS then maybe you should consider cancelling your account now and save us all alot of headaches because I will defend. And if the node crashes, too f'in bad, not my problem, its your problem for coming into my space.

You want to fight? Bring it. I got no problem shooting you or anyone else in this game even if I think your timing stinks. But leave your lameass smacktalk at home. Win or lose, your going to know you've been in a fight. You don't need to be a bunch of tards in the process.

- Steel Rat
CEO Dirty Deeds Corp
Axiom Alliance Leader

Joerd Toastius
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:00:00 - [470]
 

Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.


Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?


Then its not an "alliance" you are speaking of.

Ofc wars are won by morale. And morale in territorial wars = gaining/losing territorial objects like Outposts.

Now see how you can achieve that. Not by killing BS/Supportcraft. Its by killing Posses and keeping up your own. Rest is patience and in worst cases only waiting in ur own Pos forcefield for something to happen...


Concur. Been saying this for a while. Battlefleets are largely just a distraction while the real work is done behind the scenes. Kill/loss means nothing when everything depends on POS counts...

Traxio Nacho
Caldari
Dark Knights of Deneb
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:02:00 - [471]
 

Originally by: Durvaul
Originally by: Afonso Henriques
Originally by: Durvaul
yeh, BOB invade ASCN, **** off half the southern alliances and get wtfpwned by them

Yeh

BOB, u just started a war you cant finish


Aren't you Mr. Happ?

Thought so...


Who? And no, this is my main, i have been reading this forum for about a month and making my own decisions based on what i read, i don't think bob can win.


Hmmm thats interesting you were in the same corp as Mr Happ for 2 months but don't know who he is Razz, plus isn't MR Happ Aka Lt Sliver? your current and past CEO oh and you been in the same corps as both of them Very Happy

However on topic I can hardly see how you can say ASCN would win by reading the forum for the last month.....

Turkantho
Caldari
AMT.
Ev0ke
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:03:00 - [472]
 

Edited by: Turkantho on 28/09/2006 22:05:26
Begun the whorum wars have, take it ingame ffs Rolling Eyes


@ASCN
just a tip, ignore those childish bob forum whorage or just take it for a laugh

oh and woody is right and yes station ping pong was better

edit:
@BOB
how dare you to take our favourite targets away ?

darth solo
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:05:00 - [473]
 

Originally by: CYVOK
If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.

-CYVOK-


i think u will find thats actually mine.

d solo.

Evil Thug
Minmatar
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:06:00 - [474]
 

Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.


corps hating (YES, HATING) each other


ET I think you know a lot less about ascn than you think you do


Ofc you are right.

P.S. Unfortunately i`m unable to quote alts, that spamming my eve-mail with proposal of buying access on ASCN directors, logistic, junior hq, hq forums. I cleaned my eve-mail box yesterday.

Hakera
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:07:00 - [475]
 

Edited by: Hakera on 28/09/2006 22:07:46
Originally by: Evil Thug


Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?


Divide et impera eh ET, the war for morale has begun already i see with much prophecising on things to come.

though i am not ascn for some time, people have been misquoting and taking out of context many of the posts from there. The one by cyvok about tactics particularly. Whilst yes a tactic of war such is propaganda. The BoB forum machine will be an effective weapon as the saying goes, 'wars are won in the will'.

My own opinion is ASCN will fortify its core systems rather than expend too many resources protecting the likes of PS. Certiantly if 'air superiority' is maintained by the invaders, a tough war it will be, though i dont know the exact objectives of BoB et al.

Though i cant help but draw parallels to the middle earth when sauron marches on the field, will that be cyvok in his titan in the last stand of AZN? Though admitadly I have trouble wondering if mordor is to the east of the map or to the west in eve's case....

more drunken thoughts in another bottle or two!

OzaLoni
Gallente
Poor Old Ornery nOObs
Turdz Asshatz N Grieferz
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:10:00 - [476]
 

Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Excellent - I may have to come out of retirement! Wink




Woot.... Blinky Blinky team 4tw!

Riddari
Gallente
VIT
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:12:00 - [477]
 

Well.

Lets hope it's a good one.

Let us see how CCP can support warfare with the numbers both teams can put into battle, at multiple places at the same time. Not forgetting any 3rd parties wanting to crash in.

Let us see how jump queues will decimate unlucky fleets.
Let us see how fighters take down nodes.

The morale within ASCN is high.
The morale within BOB is presumably high, because they know they are going up against an entity that will meet them on the battlefield.

Game has begun.

Lord Draco
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:12:00 - [478]
 

Edited by: Lord Draco on 28/09/2006 22:13:38
Originally by: Adhamhnon
You know what would be really nice? How about everybody, ASCN and BoB, stop auditioning for a leading role on the WoW kiddiesmack forums and just have a good fight? I know, I'm living in some fantasyworld where people might show a little respect for each other and just have a good time playing a GAME, but hey, I can dream.





I have to agree with you. I personlly like you guys a lot. I'll lways remember the dedication you showed in the EC op with us.

In eve war is a good thing. I dont know what many of you think, but eve was getting very stale. I am glad there is a reason to play again. I for one am sick to death of the 'wait for kali' mentality thats infected the eve populace. Having been here since day one I know that all the sheeple out there would start hoarding isk and bunkering up (as if it was really needed) for the next major expansion. Waiting for kali is imo nothing but an excuse for inaction. I don't pay to play a game where I login, spin my ship and chat with friends. I want to blow stuff up and create more memories with my friends and enemies. Hopefully this will be an event worthy of remembering.

As for all the two-bit flame throwers from parties who arent involved, you've now got a whole new era of posts to proclaim your bob-fanboyism (and to a lesser extent ascne fanboyism). So, please don;t blow your load on the first date here, save some as its going to be a long road ahead. I'll look forward to reading your oh-so-objective posts here and laughing at your stupidity (not aimed at ascn, rather the legion of trolling fanboys). Please don's dissapoint us and try a little better to control your e-envy.

p.s. lets drop the lag argument everyone. we have said our piece, we have laid our cards on the table, lets see what happens ok?

Goberth Ludwig
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:17:00 - [479]
 

Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 28/09/2006 22:18:29
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.


corps hating (YES, HATING) each other


ET I think you know a lot less about ascn than you think you do


Ofc you are right.

P.S. Unfortunately i`m unable to quote alts, that spamming my eve-mail with proposal of buying access on ASCN directors, logistic, junior hq, hq forums. I cleaned my eve-mail box yesterday.


The alliance is big, among that many players of course there will be some backstabbers/lameasses doesnt mean the corps hate each other.

Btw if you get any more mail selling you access to the hq forums could you please forward it to me? I dont have access to the HQ section so I could use the infos Surprised

Trina Tron
Gallente
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2006.09.28 22:19:00 - [480]
 

K guys who blew up the itty V this timeTwisted Evil


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