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Serge
Amarr
Seraphin Technologies
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2003.10.23 08:48:00 - [1]
 

Yesterday eve I wanted to visit tank. I wanted to jump into Sarum prime to take a look at him and the bunch of kiddies around him.

There it goes:

Jumped and CTDŽd. (CTD1). Relogged, heard the sound of shooting and went nervous. Screen popped up, all read, heavy shooting at me. Tank. CTD2
Now Adrenaline started floodin me and I logged in as fast as I could, calling the passwords names while i typed them. Screen popped up and this time I had some time! Shield gone, armor at 30%, threads everywhere! crap!
Activated shield hardeners, AB, my X-large shield booster and headed towards one of the stations, away from Tank. And jep, I was warpscrambled.
Tank still kept on shootin at me with mls and pushed me out of his range .. slowly, but he pushed me out
When i was 20km away from him I activated warp and CTDŽd (CTD3)
I was hot!
Logged in again and realized I was out and at the station! That was neat: thanks to my X-large shield booster!! what a great piece of equipment!

One question: how in earth is it possible to have that many CTDs in such a short time??? The GM (Swoosh) that showed up in the system didnt answer this question so I am raising it here!

Deneba Zaavi
Jokers
Posted - 2003.10.23 09:05:00 - [2]
 

Hi.

Dunno about this particular issue but i may point out that yesterday the servers were acting out, pretty badly.

I don't know when you had these CTD, but i had three of them in a really small portion of time yesteraday at 14:00 EVE time (more or less). It was a sudden CTD with a message like "The server closed the connection".

It seems other people suffered from this too. Not all the EVE population though.

It maybe was this. By the way, congrats on your survival trial.:D


Booky
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2003.10.23 09:18:00 - [3]
 

Yes, im not supporting Tank, but I too had CTD's yesterday.

I haven't CTD in about 2 months now but I did 4 times yesterday between 0300 and downtime.

Lifewire
TunDraGon
Posted - 2003.10.23 09:37:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Lifewire on 23/10/2003 09:38:28
We had some problems with drones causing CTD for some of our members. They had to buy a new motherboard to fix this.

Another possiblility to CTD is: both players use Dampeners on each other same time.

Some PCs (depending on Hardware) crash when certain sounds or grafics appear, for example we have 1 member that gets CTD when heŽs near a nebula.

So i think, Tank is using an item that causes CTD, for example the sensor dampeners or boosters. Maybe drones. CCP should work on this bugs fast because 30-40 % of lost ships in EVE are destroyed by such bugs.

Me, i am using cruisers, having my BS repackaged in the hangar until these problems are solved...maybe next year??? I wrote all these problems to CCP months ago. What i also did is informing the players when i noticed a CTD, so they have the chance to get their ship back by a petition. Its not funny to kill some1 while he isnt there to see it Twisted Evil

Molly
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2003.10.23 10:18:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Molly on 23/10/2003 10:19:01
Hahahahaha. Isn't that sensor dampening/boosting fixed yet?

Hackett
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2003.10.23 10:43:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Hackett on 23/10/2003 10:44:02
Allegedly yes it is, but one of my corp-mates had a ctd last night during pvp when most of the ships were using some form of EW/sensor boosting.

Makes u wonder......

darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2003.10.23 11:03:00 - [7]
 

Well, when i was trying to fight Tank in my scorp, i was using a sensor booster.

I ctd also.

im thinking the boosters are still giving us problems.

untill they fix the CTD in battle issue, battles are a lottery.

Yet to fight a rat that ctd though, wish they would have some bad luck like usEmbarassed.

Valeria
Caldari
The Spang
Posted - 2003.10.23 11:19:00 - [8]
 

I believe it's the combination of one ship sensor-boosting, and one ship sensor-dampening that frells things up. However, both players CTD so it could be alot worse.

darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2003.10.23 11:27:00 - [9]
 

Quote:
I believe it's the combination of one ship sensor-boosting, and one ship sensor-dampening that frells things up. However, both players CTD so it could be alot worse.


No, just me usually. But to be fair, its happened to a few of my friends also.

Not nice losing a BS this way.

I like my ship to have a pilot at the controlsCool

Shadowthrone
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2003.10.23 11:38:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Shadowthrone on 23/10/2003 11:41:03
The only time i have ctded from combat is directly after initiating a sensor dampner against magua , probably a month or so ago.

It happened directly after i activated this module. Magua did not ctd. I think he was using a sensor booster. This happened after this issue was supposedly fixed. I still think there are ctd issues regarding booster/dampners interaction.

Shauna Trader
Posted - 2003.10.23 11:59:00 - [11]
 

any one thought of "Ship scanning" tank, NOT cargo.


I think you'll find its not what you think it is..,Shocked

Garth
Posted - 2003.10.23 12:41:00 - [12]
 

It's a lag problem with all the drones he and his friends have out. You can do the same CTD in a roid belt with to many drones minning.Shocked

Serge
Amarr
Seraphin Technologies
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2003.10.23 13:13:00 - [13]
 

I seriously wondered that i survived this happening!

However - I couldnt even activate ONE module be4 my first CTD (this one was during warp into sarum). When i quickly relogged I could NOT activate a module be4 I again CTDŽd
Tank was on all the time so far i can tell.

After my third re-loggin I managed to activate a load of modules ... even sensor booster! and the sensor booster didnt make me CTD! my 3rd CTD was shortly after getting into warp out of the jump-in point.

This was at approx 21.00 game time.

Shadowthrone
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2003.10.23 14:12:00 - [14]
 

Tank Ceo was buying large quantities of mines yesterday on trade channel so im sure it will only get worse at Sarum Prime.

Lifewire
TunDraGon
Posted - 2003.10.23 15:04:00 - [15]
 

In another post i wrote drones, mines and NPCs should be kicked out of the game...why? Because i want the server ressources for real players. n1 cares...

It will need years to fix EVE. But i try again:

- Drones: Frigate players are like drones Laughing so why stealing their job?

- Mines: Its possible to drop thousands of them and lag the game out.

- NPCs: better use 1 Police BS then 5 small frigates. Every ships causes lag. Or better use 1 pirate cruiser then 4 small crafts.

- Sentry guns: they are really unrealistic. Would be better to give stations and gates weapons--->less lag and much more realistic.

Kahlan
Blood crossing
Posted - 2003.10.23 16:51:00 - [16]
 

wouldnt know what a ctd is havnt had one in months (prolly cause i turn off eve sound with alt+control+shift and f12) which we all know its the sounds in the game that causes most ctds not the module or device itself

Lifewire
TunDraGon
Posted - 2003.10.23 17:10:00 - [17]
 

Or press the ctrl, alt and del-key to disable the grafik - for the nebula grafik bug WinkConfused

darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2003.10.23 17:15:00 - [18]
 

Quote:
wouldnt know what a ctd is havnt had one in months (prolly cause i turn off eve sound with alt+control+shift and f12) which we all know its the sounds in the game that causes most ctds not the module or device itself


I need my sound. wouldnt even think about turning it off.

PoXiE
Minmatar
ARK-CORP
SATRAPY
Posted - 2003.10.23 20:27:00 - [19]
 

not saying he was...but Tank has exploited before and wouldn't be surprised if he was at it again.

Ring
Caldari
Posted - 2003.10.24 02:29:00 - [20]
 

I think it was the f90 sensor booster you were trying to buy tank? oops Twisted Evil

Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2003.10.24 09:30:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Hardin on 24/10/2003 09:32:43
As a loyal Amarrian Corp PIE has been working with its allies in the CVA to diminish the activities of Tank in Sarum and ensure the system is safe(r) for travellers.

In fact yesterday evening Tank CEO spent most of his time hiding in a station or logged off and the system was open for travel during peak hours.

I have to say that during our various run ins with Tank CEO that we have not encountered any serious exploitation on his behalf apart from a few cans at the jump in point which are probably used for collecting his loot.

In the 4/5hrs we kept Sarum clear while I was on Tank did try and engage our fleet protecting the jump in point a few times and as far as I am aware no one suffered CTD's. It was just fortunate for him that we didnt manage to get a warp scrambler on him for the few seconds that he showed up!

Tank may get his kicks in what most in EVE think is a lame way (ganking haulers and unaware passerbys at jump in points) but he has not in our experience at Sarum Prime utilised exploitative tactics (yet).


Ocra Nomium
Posted - 2003.10.24 19:52:00 - [22]
 

Quote:
not saying he was...but Tank has exploited before and wouldn't be surprised if he was at it again.


What Tank is doing is how far he can take it with CCP daring and double daring them.
Lmao he even uses his own corp members to test how far they can go.
And they don`t care that they get banned for a view days or longer they just use a spare account.

Well Next patch is gonna fix that i guess but not sure if like it.
Look iam not into the pirate thingy but on some accounts i have to agree with tank his concerns for the rest he acts like a 15 year old with sometimes a good point.

big issues in the game shoud be taken to a choosen group of harcore players and be looked over by them so they can advice balance into the game to CCP.

For the rest iam dunno.

where did i leave that third characterTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil

DREAMWORKS
Gallente
Gangbang-Gang
GUARDS 0F AVALON
Posted - 2003.10.24 21:08:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: DREAMWORKS on 24/10/2003 21:10:09
Cool

I only died today due to a BSOD while fighting in Jan against Masi..

Im 100% sure that its not Biomass, cuz i never CTD before and they are so well known for beeing exploiters Razz Cool Laughing The fact that its the second time i lose a fight due to a "freak bug" while fighting Biomass is just bad luck Cool


....
RIIIIGHT
(but before that incident it was a neat fight.)

Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2003.10.24 21:20:00 - [24]
 

I've never experienced a CTD in a fight with Biomass, and I've jumped into blockades containing 3+ BS and drones.

Just stating facts.


Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2003.10.24 21:25:00 - [25]
 

Quote:
Tank may get his kicks in what most in EVE think is a lame way (ganking haulers and unaware passerbys at jump in points) but he has not in our experience at Sarum Prime utilised exploitative tactics (yet).


My apologies for double posting, but I felt this had to be addressed.

I do not know CCP's standpoint on the issue, but utilizing an 0.0 noob Corp spy at a hostile spot is low. Very low. In my own humble opinion this is an exploit of the game system. Pure thrash.

Play the game, enjoy, immerse yourself. Be a pirate, but do it right eh?

SwitchBl4d3
Heretic Army
Posted - 2003.10.25 12:06:00 - [26]
 

Exploiters are just the same as the Kiddie who download ready made hacks for first person shooters as they havent the Skills to get the Kills. The kind of person who bangs in the cheat code for grand theft auto and has infinate health. open jove space insert them in there then close it again. *problem solved*

Centuri
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
Posted - 2003.10.25 13:15:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Centuri on 25/10/2003 13:22:09
I know 3 people now who have CTD'd against biomass (attack) fleets, all were using sensor boosters at the time. I'm not passing any judgement, that's just my experience with them, never have gone ctd myself while fighting them though.

Quote:
I think it was the f90 sensor booster you were trying to buy tank? oops


Yeah lol, he was buying two of them, kinda hard to miss when he was spamming the channel Very HappyRolling Eyes

Tibor Ferenc
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2003.10.25 13:25:00 - [28]
 

I too lost a ship (raven) due to a crash to desktop yesterday (nothing to do with Tank CEO BTW). I think CCP NEEDS to sort out this problem asap. I dont mind loosing ships due to a superior opponent but when its due to CTD's it does sting. Dont worry tho the raven is being replaced as i type.

TF.
The LBC.

Joshua Calvert
Caldari
Rule One
Posted - 2003.10.25 15:07:00 - [29]
 

Considering the vast majority of battleship owners equip at least 1 sensor booster, I'm finding it hard to believe they are causing CTD's in enough people for it to be exploitable.

Centuri
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
Posted - 2003.10.25 18:04:00 - [30]
 

Quote:
Considering the vast majority of battleship owners equip at least 1 sensor booster, I'm finding it hard to believe they are causing CTD's in enough people for it to be exploitable.


True, but not many BSs go up against npc rats who have sensor dampeners, which seem to be apart of the problem. Only a small % of players pvp enough to notice that this does happen quite abit, it doesn't happen on every engagement but it does still happen and people are loosing ships because of it.


 

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