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Davlos
Deus Imperiosus Acies
Posted - 2006.08.24 11:00:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Davlos on 14/09/2006 00:20:17
Edited by: Davlos on 25/08/2006 02:21:41
To those who don't know me yet, I am a new recruit of Gilead's Bullet, and having tried out Nikolai's SMR-15, and being a firearms afficiando myself, I have been inspired, somewhat, to fabricate my own, as well.

The proposed product is an assault rifle, featuring a traditional design, and an equally-traditional combustion firing system. This is in response to "higher technology" firearms in the market, reliant on electronics for propulsion. The rifle is presently being designed with reliance, versatility and ease of use in mind.

It will feature a firing system that is gas-operated with a rotating bolt. The rifle uses a short-stroke gas system, keeping the receiver relatively clean, enabling the user to fire tens of thousands of rounds without cleaning. The bolt carrier hangs from the recoil spring guide rod and is restricted in side-to-side movement by steel plates embedded in the receiver. The rifle was initially estimated by me to be able to fire about 580 rounds per minute, but upon further optimization, I have been able to accomplish about 710 so far.

Keeping the rifle free of any form of electronics, the rifle sights will have the rear rotary diopter, and a hooded post at the front. The rifle is also stablised with a detachable traditional stock, which can be either removed for close-range scenarios, or replaced with a foldable stock, though the latter is made of polymer, and I have observed stability issues with it so far.

Thus far, the ammunition for the rifle has been in only one variant: The 6.12mm x 42mm full tritanium-mexallon alloy jacket cartridge. I am yet to decide on including more variants, such as armor-piercing or explosive, and will gladly receive any suggestions on this point.

There are plans to make the rifle very customizable, though I am yet to work on the customization rails. However, I have two electronics systems in mind to integrate to the rifle:

These have been discovered by me, made by two small-time firearms afficiandos like I, who have developed such systems purely as a hobby.

Variable Rate of Fire System for Combustion Weapon Systems (VROFSCW):

It is well-known that attempts to fit a Variable ROF System to a combustion type propulsion is a blatant road to disaster, but a Khanid residing in Gallente whom I chanced upon in my travels has managed to engineer such a wonder, and I promptly bought the rights from him for a very small fee. It is able to adjust the default 710 RPM to about 400, for controlled bursts in urban environments.


Automatic Reporter for Battlenet

This is an ambitous project undertaken by a fellow Caldari who has been working for five years as a personal pet project. This system, mounted on the underside of a barrel is able to recognize human body shapes, biomass, and most signatures of known military armor and aircraft, and to report it to the user's battlenet, relaying all information to the rest of the user's squad and field commander. This will help immensely in cutting down comms chatter, eliminating the need for troops to constantly report enemy positions.

Tentative Specifications:

Weapon type: Combustion System

Weapon class: Assault Rifle

Caliber: 6.12mm

Construction: Carbon fiber reinforced polymer; handguard known to have overheating issues

Stock: Traditional 300mm or Foldable 300mm.

Ammunition: 6.12mm x 42mm full tritanium-mexallon alloy jacket.

Loading: 32-round detachable box magazine

Fire Selection: Safety/Semi-Automatic/2-round Burst/Full Automatic

Rate of Fire: 710 RPM / 400 RPM (with VROFSCW)

Weapon Dimensions: 951mm/651mm long (with/without stock)

Any form of criticism/suggestions will be appreciated and duly noted.

Thank you for your time.

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2006.08.24 21:53:00 - [2]
 

Sir,

I read with interest your design and might suggest that if a 'family' of such weapons was produced you include a support variant? I estimate based upon the specifications you have provided here that the rifle has a range of 6-800m, quite exceptional for a carbine design and wholly suitable for urban operations. However the inclusion of increased barrel length and a folding bipod would increase its accuracy to the region of 1500-1800m providing a supressive fire role for longer range engagemnets such as rural operations.

Steiner
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.08.25 10:13:00 - [3]
 

I find it kind of funny to see this "Loyal to the State"(not sarcasm) corporation producing firearms while they are considered a contraband in the Caldari State space?

Kailea Shandrasekkar
Chor Tempest
Posted - 2006.08.25 14:36:00 - [4]
 

I believe that, due to the VROFSCW system, this weapon is considered a high-tech long gun - therefore legal inside State space.

Vera Nosfyu
Minmatar
Duragon Pioneer Group
Posted - 2006.08.25 16:25:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Steiner
I find it kind of funny to see this "Loyal to the State"(not sarcasm) corporation producing firearms while they are considered a contraband in the Caldari State space?


Slavery is also illegal in the Caldari State, that doesn't stop them from helping the Amarr with slaving raids now does it?

Irias Salo
Caldari
The Star Wolves
Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
Posted - 2006.08.25 16:28:00 - [6]
 

This weapon counts as a hightech weapon, and so is legal within the State.

Malthros Zenobia
Posted - 2006.08.25 17:36:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Steiner
I find it kind of funny to see this "Loyal to the State"(not sarcasm) corporation producing firearms while they are considered a contraband in the Caldari State space?


Such high-tech firearms, as they are producing, are not illegal in the State as they meet the rules and regulations and comply with the laws regarding firearms.

Malthros Zenobia
Posted - 2006.08.25 17:38:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Vera Nosfyu
Originally by: Steiner
I find it kind of funny to see this "Loyal to the State"(not sarcasm) corporation producing firearms while they are considered a contraband in the Caldari State space?


Slavery is also illegal in the Caldari State, that doesn't stop them from helping the Amarr with slaving raids now does it?


Your claims are no doubt as truthful and have as good a reason to happen as Republic incursions into State space.

And like you said, slavery is illegal in the Caldari State. The State cannot regulate what its citizens do outside the State, altho they can be made to answer for crimes, should they be foolish enough to return once their crimes are known.

Cmdr Baxter
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2006.08.25 17:50:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Vera Nosfyu
Originally by: Steiner
I find it kind of funny to see this "Loyal to the State"(not sarcasm) corporation producing firearms while they are considered a contraband in the Caldari State space?


Slavery is also illegal in the Caldari State, that doesn't stop them from helping the Amarr with slaving raids now does it?


Please don't do us the disservice of confusing our corporation's foreign activities for your government's own military weaknesses.

If your government can't stop the slaving raids, which implies problems with internal security and the ability to administrate its own territory, then I wonder why you even bother to bring up the issue with foreigners. Rolling Eyes

This is a matter best brought up with the government of the Republic. Not in a discussion over Caldari internal politics and economics.

Kailea Shandrasekkar
Chor Tempest
Posted - 2006.08.25 20:58:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Cmdr Baxter
If your government can't stop the slaving raids, which implies problems with internal security and the ability to administrate its own territory, then I wonder why you even bother to bring up the issue with foreigners. Rolling Eyes

This is a matter best brought up with the government of the Republic. Not in a discussion over Caldari internal politics and economics.


Quoted for truth.

Vera Nosfyu
Minmatar
Duragon Pioneer Group
Posted - 2006.08.25 21:30:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Cmdr Baxter
Originally by: Vera Nosfyu
Originally by: Steiner
I find it kind of funny to see this "Loyal to the State"(not sarcasm) corporation producing firearms while they are considered a contraband in the Caldari State space?


Slavery is also illegal in the Caldari State, that doesn't stop them from helping the Amarr with slaving raids now does it?


Please don't do us the disservice of confusing our corporation's foreign activities for your government's own military weaknesses.

If your government can't stop the slaving raids, which implies problems with internal security and the ability to administrate its own territory, then I wonder why you even bother to bring up the issue with foreigners. Rolling Eyes

This is a matter best brought up with the government of the Republic. Not in a discussion over Caldari internal politics and economics.


I was simply pointing out that the Caldari have a habit of involving them in projects that would be less than legal by the State's own laws. If you know anything of my politics I'm sure you are aware that I am by no means pleased with the way they are handling the current situation.

Now that that's settled, let's return to the original topic. What do you expect this weapon to cost?

Davlos
Deus Imperiosus Acies
Posted - 2006.08.25 22:12:00 - [12]
 

Yes. Though it is my philosophy to have little or no electronics in the firearm, I changed my mind from making these integrations from optional to being part of the package, in order to have it legal.

Such is the exploitation of the loopholes of the rule of law.

I'm afraid I am unable to quote a price for this product, as it is far from complete, and even if it were done, I would have to consult the Directive's friendly production hub, TKI.

Do keep legal and political arguments out of this, please. I really do require feedback, be it positive or negative, and am always looking for willing parties for evaluation. I can offer a set of five to ten prototypes for eval to up to two to three weeks.

Thank you for your time taken in reading this.

Angel Vengen
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.08.26 23:42:00 - [13]
 

*Angel Vengen sits down to write his report, and seems to have a large grin on his face.*

Hey Davlos, sorry it took so long, but I've been having some fun with these things.

I'm glad I opted for the 400 rps model with the VROFSCW, because you weren't kidding when you said there is a overheating problem, but I was also there for the conversation with Dr. Salo and I know about the polymer he spoke of so thats not really an issue. Just don't start passing out the 710 rps models till its worked out, could cause serious problems to those that have no idea what they are getting.

The rounds themselves were just rounds so Ill only give them a line or two in the report, Good distance, not to many with foulings so they all pretty much flew straight on target, with a few zings, but that could have been the drinks.

*Angel chuckles to himself after writing that bit down and grabs a drink*

Ok On to the Rifle. Me and My men like the collapsible stock the best over the traditional fixed stock, because during the simulations it allowed us to easily switch from outdoor to indoor combat relatively easily, by folding the stock. The rifle aslo was able to keep most of the accuracy aswell, which was a really nice attribute. I personally feel that the fully automatic firing mode was, as most weapons not mounted on a bipod or others meant for support, started to loose accuracy after the first three rounds went down range. It was very good for suppressive fire tho. The two round burst was nice because, when combined with the weapons ROF during firing, enabled for easy and quick double taps, almost one right after the other, and damn near on top of each other. But there was a noticable separation of the rounds once you got past 15 meters, and it got exponentially larger the further back from the target we were.

Semi-Auto was of course an extremely accurate mode of firing, especially if ammo is in need of conservation or the Range is too long for the 2 shot burst mode to be effective( see note on range of double-shot) I noticed the rifle's point accuracy up to 300 meters, and a range of up to 650 meters on an Area target, and thats not to shabby.

As far as in close fighting/room clearing as well as mass firing on a small range, there is an extreme risk of catching hot brass from the ejection port, and if that could be affected by a brass thrower fitted on would be great, if not its not a problem, hot brass only hurts for a second or two.

Although you said it didn't need to be cleaned really, its always god to know how to clean your rifle, just incase and i must say that its a relatively easy and quick cleanup.

All in all a good rifle Davlos, the main problem is the over heating, and thats about it. the little nuances are just that, almost creature comforts, and could most definitely be left out of the Military versions.

-Master Gunnery Sergeant Angel Vengen

1st Annex : I don't know if this has happened before, but one of my new recruits was firing the rifle down range and he got a bubble in the barrel. The doc says the bionic arm should work out fine, but i figured i would let you know, no other rifles have shown even the possibility of that happening, but they are being stripped and cleaned again just to be sure, but we have been unable to determine why. They should be ready for you to pick up by Tomorrow the latest, including the one with the warped barrel, so that you can try to figure out why.

Paxtan Staark
Caldari
Deployable Defences
Posted - 2006.08.28 08:46:00 - [14]
 

I'm very impressed by this product and it will indeed be something useful in the future.

The SMR-15 is indeed a good choise but this baby packs the sort of firepower that for sure will make me sleep safe and sound.




Davlos
Deus Imperiosus Acies
Posted - 2006.08.31 22:16:00 - [15]
 

I am pleased to announce much progress on the E-1, which I have named tentatively, known as Evaluation model 1.

As I have mentioned earlier on the previous prototype, there was an overheating problem with the handguard, due to the high ROF of the product and the material's inadequacy in heat resistance.

Acting on the recommendation of a friend, I have tried out a substance named a 'phenotic composite' that is mainly used in rocket engines. Though highly malleable, it's rather smooth in texture, and I've had a coating of rough polymer on top of it for better grip.

Tests have been checking out ok so far. The handguard gets a bit warm after two magazines of continued fire, but this shouldn't be a problem.

Furthermore, heat shields may be provided if this problem persists.

Noted, Mr. Vengen, I shall pick the prototypes up ASAP to study this issue.


As for customizations, I have developed new systems and options, such as a dual-sighting system that provides two optics: a small optical sight with 3.0x magnification, and a second reflex sight that projects a red dot onto a glass screen without magnification. This sight may be operated with both eyes open.

I have studied Nikolai's SMR-15's gas-piston operated proprietary twin-clip design, and incorporated it into the E-1. This ensures the user to be able to maintain suppressive fire without the need to reload, or to be able to conserve ammo whilst swapping out partially-expended magazines. An obvious drawback has been noticed - the weight of an extra magazine and the system causes a weight imbalance on the rifle, causing a bit of difficulty for the user.

The Automatic Reporter for Battlenet's position has been changed from the underside of the barrel to the side, giving the product more options for the underside of the barrel. I have devised two options thus far:

Shotgun Attachment

To boost the E-1's CQC (Close-Quarters Combat) potential even further, a shotgun attachment has been developed. The shotgun can hold up to three shells at a time, and may hold various shell types, be it slugs, standard buckshot or flechette.

Triggered Airburst Grenade Launcher Attachment.

Contrary to common impact-triggered grenade launchers, this baby is able to take down hostiles behind cover. Point it over or to the side of cover, launch it and it detonates with a push of a button. The payload is a 27mm grenade, that may come in various types, such as High-Explosive Air Bursting, Thermal and Flechette.

Attempts to integrate a rangefinger to completement with this system have so far met with little and limited success.

Kailea Shandrasekkar
Chor Tempest
Posted - 2006.09.01 13:44:00 - [16]
 

Davos, would you be so kind as to send me some units for evaluation? I'm turning out to be a great admirer of the weapon systems designed by the Directive.

One question. Are you planning to integrate a any exoskeleton interface? My troops use nX0.3390B-enabled exos, and i was wondering if i'd be able to sync with this new model.

Davlos
Deus Imperiosus Acies
Posted - 2006.09.04 01:06:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Kailea Shandrasekkar
Davos, would you be so kind as to send me some units for evaluation? I'm turning out to be a great admirer of the weapon systems designed by the Directive.

One question. Are you planning to integrate a any exoskeleton interface? My troops use nX0.3390B-enabled exos, and i was wondering if i'd be able to sync with this new model.


I will have ten models of the latest prototype prepared right away for you and delivered via courier at an address of your choosing.

However, I am curious, Ms. Shandrasekkar - why do you require a general purpose assault rifle, that is designed for light infantry and marines for exoskeletons? In my experience thus far, I've seen exoskeletons used for heavy fire support.

Vendrin
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.09.04 01:53:00 - [18]
 

And if you are using exoskeletons, you should be using TKI's brand exoskeletons. Superior to all others.

Angel Vengen
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.09.04 08:16:00 - [19]
 

I am going to have to agree with Vendrin here. TKI's version just plain old rocks out. Besides I would think that if a rifle from Gilead's Bullet was going to sync up with any exo it would be TKI's seeing as how TKI is more than likly going to be taking care of mass production anyway. Speaking of that Dav, when they are being made I would like to get a gross of them. Just let me know the information.

-Master Gunnery Seargent Angel Vengen

Kailea Shandrasekkar
Chor Tempest
Posted - 2006.09.04 15:18:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Davlos
I will have ten models of the latest prototype prepared right away for you and delivered via courier at an address of your choosing.

However, I am curious, Ms. Shandrasekkar - why do you require a general purpose assault rifle, that is designed for light infantry and marines for exoskeletons? In my experience thus far, I've seen exoskeletons used for heavy fire support.


I appreciate your attention. I believe Nikolai already have my address on his customer database.

Now, regarding our question. My House has been offering security services to corporations in Lonetrek region for several decades now. Since our beggining, we've been exposed to a wide variety of combat situations, one of the most dreaded being the stalemate involving entrenched armies with similar strenght resulting in use of guerrilla tactics to wear off the opponent's presence. These situations usually lasts for months, wasting precious resources and ISKs.

Our combat analysts suggested that the use of inexpensive light-frame exos would result in a more effective approach. We then spent some time looking for feasible options, only to find none that covered all our needs. The next logical step was to assemble our own R&D staff.

While most of the available exos tends to focus on firepower and load, our models focus on long-term autonomy, communications, survival and portability. One of our models, the SDS-02, weights only 20kg (thanks to a BMF-variant polymer), covers 45% of the total body area, and have a built-in waste processor, allowing our men to stay in the field for 25 or more days without need of fresh water. It also includes standard WIR-e communications interface.

The presence of an exoskeleton greatly boosted our troops performance. In addition, the exos equipped with combat-enhancement subprocessor can deliver recoil control and aiming aid.

I believe i've answered your question by now. =)

Davlos
Deus Imperiosus Acies
Posted - 2006.09.05 03:50:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Kailea Shandrasekkar

I appreciate your attention. I believe Nikolai already have my address on his customer database.

Now, regarding our question. My House has been offering security services to corporations in Lonetrek region for several decades now. Since our beggining, we've been exposed to a wide variety of combat situations, one of the most dreaded being the stalemate involving entrenched armies with similar strenght resulting in use of guerrilla tactics to wear off the opponent's presence. These situations usually lasts for months, wasting precious resources and ISKs.

Our combat analysts suggested that the use of inexpensive light-frame exos would result in a more effective approach. We then spent some time looking for feasible options, only to find none that covered all our needs. The next logical step was to assemble our own R&D staff.

While most of the available exos tends to focus on firepower and load, our models focus on long-term autonomy, communications, survival and portability. One of our models, the SDS-02, weights only 20kg (thanks to a BMF-variant polymer), covers 45% of the total body area, and have a built-in waste processor, allowing our men to stay in the field for 25 or more days without need of fresh water. It also includes standard WIR-e communications interface.

The presence of an exoskeleton greatly boosted our troops performance. In addition, the exos equipped with combat-enhancement subprocessor can deliver recoil control and aiming aid.

I believe i've answered your question by now. =)


Interesting.

Development of a nX0.3390B-compatible interface is under way. I expect it to be done in five days, and will send it to you via courier right after its completion for your eval.

Oh, yes, I have dug up the corporate courier logs for your address, since the CO isn't around, and my courier has reported to me that the delivery was done approx. two hours ago.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

Koshmarnaya Akula
Ghost Festival
Posted - 2006.09.05 05:42:00 - [22]
 

Having served in the Surface Tactical Force in my youth, I personally would find 800m lacking in range. Our main problem was target aquisition, not target disruption or destruction. Our Medium Range small calber rail systems or Mr. S's as we called them in SURTAC, were quite capable of killing a target from far away, but the optics and viewfinders that we had were not suited to a shifting and changing urban environment. You have to rmemeber that in Urban scenarios we are dealing many thousands of meters in height, miles for some cities and corridors etc. I like that the round is small enough to maintain usability, but my concerns as I said, would be more in the implementation of an advanced optics system beyond what was proposed.

Just my two cents.

Kailea Shandrasekkar
Chor Tempest
Posted - 2006.09.05 14:03:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Davlos
Interesting.

Development of a nX0.3390B-compatible interface is under way. I expect it to be done in five days, and will send it to you via courier right after its completion for your eval.

Oh, yes, I have dug up the corporate courier logs for your address, since the CO isn't around, and my courier has reported to me that the delivery was done approx. two hours ago.

I look forward to hearing from you again.


The shipment arrived, thank you. I've already sent it to our training facilities. And i'm eagerly waiting for the 3390B version.

Redwolf
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.05 22:32:00 - [24]
 

My Personal Guard have always expressed a liking for models which incorperate a shock stick in the stock. They believe it makes dealing with the odd misbehaving Brutor easier and the clean up less time consuming.

Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
Gilead's Bullet
Posted - 2006.09.06 05:02:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Koshmarnaya Akula
Having served in the Surface Tactical Force in my youth, I personally would find 800m lacking in range. Our main problem was target aquisition, not target disruption or destruction. Our Medium Range small calber rail systems or Mr. S's as we called them in SURTAC, were quite capable of killing a target from far away, but the optics and viewfinders that we had were not suited to a shifting and changing urban environment. You have to rmemeber that in Urban scenarios we are dealing many thousands of meters in height, miles for some cities and corridors etc. I like that the round is small enough to maintain usability, but my concerns as I said, would be more in the implementation of an advanced optics system beyond what was proposed.

Just my two cents.
If you're looking for greater range, the success of the SMR-15 has encouraged me to commercialize another long-running project of mine.

I suggest you keep an eye on the Inter-Corporate Network for further information.

Davlos
Deus Imperiosus Acies
Posted - 2006.09.12 07:24:00 - [26]
 

I must report that development of the nX0.3390B-compatible interface has been running into a myriad of issues, naming one to shut down on its own after thirty or so minutes of usage. If not, it causes the rifle to fire independently, causing it to be a hazard.

Perhaps my aptitude in developing such a system is less than desirable, and any help in this will be duly appreciated.

This issue aside, the core product, the E-1, or otherwise known as Evaluation Model 1, is now designated DC-AR1 by the Caldari State Weapons Oversight Committee Alphanumeric Model Convention. Minor fine-tuning aside, the blueprint will be prepared, and I will submit it to Tsurokigaarai Corporation for mass production, pending approval.

To answer in advance, future questions regarding the designated type, "In cases where the item in development is deemed to contribute greatly to the prestige, profit and power of the Caldari State, the committee may allow the designer to be honoured through the inclusion of initials into the type designation."

Thank you for your time.

Cassidy StarFire
Posted - 2006.09.12 12:59:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Cassidy StarFire on 12/09/2006 13:00:52
Edited by: Cassidy StarFire on 12/09/2006 13:00:04
im not a machinist or anything of the sort but could you develop a sqaud assualt weapon along the same lines that is belt fed with a rof upwards of 1500 rounds a minute variable down to 800 r/m. if so i would order weapons from you for my marine fireteams to replace the aging aresonal they already have.

Vera Nosfyu
Minmatar
Duragon Pioneer Group
Posted - 2006.09.13 18:40:00 - [28]
 

Still no word on the price, Davlos? Also, can it fire in a vacuum?

Aran Cole
Minmatar
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
Posted - 2006.09.13 19:06:00 - [29]
 

Who's GBDT? Gileab's Dullet? Cool

Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
Gilead's Bullet
Posted - 2006.09.13 22:08:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Aran Cole
Who's GBDT? Gileab's Dullet? Cool
Lt. Cain sneaked out of too many spelling classes in order to go to the firing range.

I really can't fault him on it.


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