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Deakin Frost
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:11:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Kcel Chim
The op stated it was about SU -> purpose of this thread.

No, the only purpose of this thread is huge forum spin.

"Hey guys! We're owning Goonswarm so hard, we didn't have any losses at all...

...just in S-U that is... ...where only a small part of them hangs out... ...incidentally those that don't have real experience... ...but we're superstars!"

Actually, why do I bother, anyway...

Ashen Brarn
Caldari
More-Cowbell
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:11:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Jacinto Naysmith
Jokes asside, I honestly don't see why you posted this topic. In your original post, you post kills. Newbie ships, shuttles and frigates. Who honestly cares? There are 14 kills of any note. Those kind of losses aren't even as much as you'd expect to see from a small fleet battle, let alone an entire war. This almost seems more like a GALKO post then anything else, ONE FULLY CHARGED INDUSTRIAL KILLED, GALKO IS VICTORIOUS, LET THE ENTIRE EVE UNIVERSE KNOW!


i care ♥

tookar
Amarr
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:12:00 - [93]
 

Go goons ! Looks like your winning to me :) These nabs actually seem to care lol . Bet they are the type who set their alarm clocks for 4am so they can take peoples pos when they are not online . BoB who posted here and that 5 guy are like a black hole sucking all the fun out of anything that comes near them .

Having fun camping su- for days lol . Shame eve has turned into who can bore people for the longest to get a kill .

Edit- Good luck taking those npc stations Rolling Eyes

Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:12:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: steveid
I cant believe peeps are saying good numbers when they smacktalked UDIE's stats.

Goons, get yourself 5 - 10 small roving gangs with frigates and ew cruisers and head on over to BoB and MC space. Make doing anything in there space require a 10 man gang and you'll improve your ratio. You have the numbers - use them.

As the great general tacticus once said "if your enemy has in impregnable stronghold - see that they stay there"


Worst advice ever. It would only work against an extremely weak alliance who recently lost it's leadership. To any other alliance roaming ganksquads in their home is utterly inefficient and just a means of actually strengthening that alliance when you provide yourself with some entertainment.

That's what separates bob from UDIE in this instance. BOB are denying OHGOD of a home by turning their used to be stronghold into their biggest deathtrap while they also hunt them in empire. UDIE would have just skirmished around the edges teaching their noobs how to behave to not get ganked so much. One is called killing them, the other is called helping them. Learn which is which and then give advice from there.

Kari Moltov
Amarr
Prometheus Industries
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:15:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: Kari Moltov on 04/08/2006 11:16:42
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Kari Moltov

I think the point you wanted to make was that by posting directly that you suffered no losses in SU led, prima facia ,to the fact that potentially GS was struggling everywhere.


I posted our stats in S-U.

It's very clear in my conclusion the reasons for posting in S-U.

If you come to your own conclusions then those are your conclusions, not mine.

dbp


Indeed they are not your conclusions. You posted this as your conclusion:

Quote:
The Conclusion

GoonSwarm are afraid to engage us in thier own territory. Like so many before them they have gone on the offensive in another territory while we dismantle their homeland.

War Fatigue is showing already with a drop in the number of suicide pilots into S-U. They told us they love it but they don't appear to be loving it very much right now.

Shortly we will begin the removal of every pos in syndicate.

The Goons 0.0 dream is over.

dbp


Goonswarm's territory encompasses more than just SU. Therefore posting information on SU kills alone doesn't justify this conclusion. What if they were fighting you everywhere else?

Goonfleet and Goonwaffe do indeed enjoy flying cheap frigs en masse. Unfortunately most of them are not here atm. I would hope that with their return your kill numbers will again soar.

As it is from our point of view (those still permanently residing in the area) we have a relatively massive force of BoB in the area which we as a small / medium sized corporation cannot cope with alone. We are doing our best to pester and harass for the moment. Squads of Bob are picking off those others silly / unexperienced enough to try and engage. This is obviously a biased opinion and therefore should not be relied upon for a neutral point of view, although I believe it to be the truth.

As an aside I think many of the POSes have already been taken down (although I'm not sure on this one) given that they have no impact on sovereignty here, and it would be a waste to have the majority destroyed.

Joerd Toastius
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:16:00 - [96]
 

Edited by: Joerd Toastius on 04/08/2006 11:20:13
People who genuinely don't care don't feel the need to tell other people that they don't care. Why? Because they don't care. Every time a Goon logs in to post "We don't care", they make the alliance as a whole look a little more insecure about itself. IMO.


{edit} Also, the problem with GS's forum presence in general is that it's schizophrenic. Whenever it looks like things are going GS's way, or at least can be spun to that effect, we get a bunch of Goons being deadly serious, arguing their position and explaining why they're so good/underestimated/successful/whatever. Whenever it doesn't and/or it can't, we get a flood of Goons saying "hah! We don't care, it's just a game, we're all ******s, hahahaha!". Often by the same people. Often in the same thread.

Like I said in an earlier thread, for a forum-based community, your forum-fu is pretty lame.

Annu
Minmatar
Reikoku
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:17:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Deakin Frost
Bumfukistan


Thats not very nice, and could be deemed offensive to those persons living along the eastern side of that continet Asia.



Confused

Dreiden Kisada
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:18:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: tookar
Go goons ! Looks like your winning to me :) These nabs actually seem to care lol . Bet they are the type who set their alarm clocks for 4am so they can take peoples pos when they are not online . BoB who posted here and that 5 guy are like a black hole sucking all the fun out of anything that comes near them .

Having fun camping su- for days lol . Shame eve has turned into who can bore people for the longest to get a kill .

Edit- Good luck taking those npc stations Rolling Eyes


Tookar! We've missed you down in Syndicate. You should come on down to S-U again, and compete with BoB for Goon kills.

Kostandin Aleksander
Gallente
Crimson Corporation
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:18:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Joerd Toastius
People who genuinely don't care don't feel the need to tell other people that they don't care. Why? Because they don't care. Every time a Goon logs in to post "We don't care", they make the alliance as a whole look a little more insecure about itself. IMO.


I don't care.

Nira Li
Amarr
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:19:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Annu
Originally by: Deakin Frost
Bumfukistan


Thats not very nice, and could be deemed offensive to those persons living along the eastern side of that continet Asia.



Confused


/me awaits the "OMG YOU TAKE THE GAME SERIOUSLLY LOLOLOL GET A SENSE OF HUMOR" respons

Trac3rt
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:19:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: tookar
Go goons ! Looks like your winning to me :) These nabs actually seem to care lol . Bet they are the type who set their alarm clocks for 4am so they can take peoples pos when they are not online . BoB who posted here and that 5 guy are like a black hole sucking all the fun out of anything that comes near them .

Having fun camping su- for days lol . Shame eve has turned into who can bore people for the longest to get a kill .

Edit- Good luck taking those npc stations Rolling Eyes


For the record. Tookar is a player who grew up in Syndicate as an enemy of the Goons. We blew him up, he blew us up, a lot of fun was had by all.

Jacob Majestic
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:20:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: Jacob Majestic on 04/08/2006 11:21:44
Originally by: DB Preacher
As for profit from this war, everyday they make thousands, tens of thousands of isk in insurance?

We make Billions of isk from our infrastructure.

Everything is relative.

dbp


HAHHAHAHHAH I am so glad I woke up to this thread.

Do you have to keep your ***** in a harness so it doesn't drag on the ground when you walk?

Originally by: DB Preacher
GoonSwarm Losses to BoB in S-U since we arrived.
Assault Frigate = 2
Battlecruiser = 2
Battleship = 2
Bomber = 1
Capsule = 664
Covert Ops Frigate = 1
Cruiser = 15
Destroyer = 6
Frigate = 298
Heavy Assault Cruiser = 1
Industrial = 7
Interceptor = 5
Noobie Ship = 171
Shuttle = 273


Originally by: DB Preacher
GoonSwarm Losses to BoB in S-U since we arrived.
Capsule = 664
Frigate = 298
Noobie Ship = 171
Shuttle = 273


Originally by: DB Preacher

Capsule = 664
Frigate = 298
Noobie Ship = 171
Shuttle = 273



I congratulate you on your crushing military victory. Remember to shop at ISS for ammo.

By the way, if you want to stomp more sandcastles after you're done, I hear that ISS has been insubordinate as of late. You better go put them in line, seeing as how you run EVE. (Or is that SirMolle?)

dbp

DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:20:00 - [103]
 

The Fear

Kari Moltov
As an aside I think many of the POSes have already been taken down (although I'm not sure on this one) given that they have no impact on sovereignty here, and it would be a waste to have the majority destroyed.

dbp

Herberge
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:27:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: DB Preacher
The Fear

Kari Moltov
As an aside I think many of the POSes have already been taken down (although I'm not sure on this one) given that they have no impact on sovereignty here, and it would be a waste to have the majority destroyed.

dbp
Lawks a mercy.

dbp

dorannl
Gallente
little dot
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:30:00 - [105]
 

ok can someone please mail the mods forgot there email. And someone please tell me what the punishment for killboard posting is.

Im at work and bored and still i think its a waste of time to read this.

Irimi Nage
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:38:00 - [106]
 

OHNOES!!!! someone will attack delve while I'm not there.

I knew I should have installed jump-clones and spare kickboxing girlfriends while I was there :(


Herberge
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:44:00 - [107]
 

Edited by: Herberge on 04/08/2006 11:49:22
Originally by: Irimi Nage
OHNOES!!!! someone will attack delve while I'm not there.

I knew I should have installed jump-clones and spare kickboxing girlfriends while I was there :(


It wouldn't matter whether you were there or not.

dbp


Edit - in case this is not clear, I am not saying we would beat you, I'm saying that by DBP's logic it apparently doesn't matter whether we're in Syndicate or not, because he deems it to be our capital and the only theatre worth assessing.

Kaemper
Gallente
Violence Solves Everything
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:49:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: dorannl
ok can someone please mail the mods forgot there email. And someone please tell me what the punishment for killboard posting is.

Im at work and bored and still i think its a waste of time to read this.


QFT... b00b 80'ies soap episode 7069.. 'b00bie yet again looks in the mirror and goes.. look everyo1.. iiim soooh pueeetiiee!' .. yes u are.. hope the showel didnt hurt itself n sued u.. *yawn* has to be something better in here then this..

Kari Moltov
Amarr
Prometheus Industries
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:51:00 - [109]
 

Edited by: Kari Moltov on 04/08/2006 11:51:36
Originally by: DB Preacher
The Fear

Kari Moltov
As an aside I think many of the POSes have already been taken down (although I'm not sure on this one) given that they have no impact on sovereignty here, and it would be a waste to have the majority destroyed.

dbp


I would agree with this post (as all of it is mine and you did indeed quote my name correctly) bar "The Fear".

I think it makes good economical sense to remove POSes if you are one corporation (with our allies fighting elsewhere) with a few capital ships which knows that a large alliance with a / several fleets of capital ships are going to arrive and destroy them through force of arms.

If it's going to rain you don't leave your washing out now do you?

If we knew you could claim sovereignty off us and kick us out of our home I would indeed by somewhat fearful. As that is not the case I think we made a great business decision!


Herberge
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2006.08.04 11:54:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: Herberge on 04/08/2006 11:54:15
Originally by: Kari Moltov
If it's going to rain you don't leave your washing out now do you?
Yeah, because you fear that BoB god is going to make your clothes smell of mildew.

Kari Moltov
Amarr
Prometheus Industries
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:00:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Herberge
Edited by: Herberge on 04/08/2006 11:54:15
Originally by: Kari Moltov
If it's going to rain you don't leave your washing out now do you?
Yeah, because you fear that BoB god is going to make your clothes smell of mildew.


Well personally, and I hope most of my corp, don't fear that mine, or their, washing is going to get wet.

You'd get annoyed that you didn't act sooner and rush out to get the washing in.

or worest still,

You get more annoyed that are you off having fun and resign yourself that when you get back they'll be soaked through

or better still,

You make sure you watch the weather report, notice a storm is coming and then get it in before you have to worry.

Twyce Nyetlee
Gallente
The 5th Freedom
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:07:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Irimi Nage
OHNOES!!!! someone will attack delve while I'm not there.

I knew I should have installed jump-clones and spare kickboxing girlfriends while I was there :(




Ahahaha the sig wasn't enough, you even had to name yourself Irimi Nage. That's so pathetic it's kind of cute.

Dagnis
Minmatar
The Hoodie Mafia
Cosa Nostra.
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:10:00 - [113]
 

cant belive the amount of smack talk in this tread.......Shocked

Kayl Breinhar
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:12:00 - [114]
 

Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 04/08/2006 12:17:12
(After my initial sleep-addled-and-now-edited-by-corp-request "contributions" to the thread and early-morning infusion of caffeine to get those extra cylinders firing, I've decided to submit one last brain fart to the fray)

October 25, 1814:

The British enter an relatively unoccupied Washington, D.C. (BoB invading S-U in this case)

They enter the White House to find still warm food on the dining room table, which they graciously help themselves to. (BoB buying out S-U's market, presumably to paralyze supply)

They then loot everything of value (not much, we're humble folk) and burn the house (S-U) to its foundation. Then they sit back in rocking chairs, drinking tea and backslapping about how the war is won since the enemy capital has been routed (this thread). Keeping in mind, it's considered "dishonorable" by the "old school" of warfare at this time to continue to fight after your seat of power has been sieged.

The pillaging and siege of Washington DC was the only major "offensive" action the British successfully pulled off in the War of 1812. Everything after that was stalled, pushed back, or outright defeated.

Foretelling? Maybe. But it'll take about 6-12 months to see for sure. 6-12 months for a player with 10m SP is far more productive than 6-12 months for a player with 25-50m SP (I love how this game works).

Why am I saying things like this - things that really don't have a bearing on the thread at hand? Well, I'm a history major for one, so I have to make use of this useless knowledge *some*how, and I'm ultimately forced to agree with BoB on one thing - EvE does mimic real life in the sense of military history and moreso, military blunders.

Not everyone fights a "war" always on your terms, and not everyone has the same definition for "defeat."

Karunel
Gallente
Princeps Corp
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:24:00 - [115]
 

Pointless thread if I ever saw one...

BoB is pwning frigs in S-U... surprising-not
GS claims it doesn't matter... surprising-not
Lots of smack and chestbeating for both sides... surprising-not

Lock...? Yes please. Rolling Eyes

Gericault m0id
Gallente
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:34:00 - [116]
 

I don't like BoB or GS but at least I respected the former before I read this thread.

BoB, why bother with the killboard stats? Why argue the numbers? I've been pwned by you more times than I can count and that's more than enough to respect your alliance (respect, but dislike nevertheless). By lowering yourself to a killboard debate you lose a lot of credibility in my eyes.

Daw Wo
Caldari
Black Scorp
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:41:00 - [117]
 

I don't know the two alliances history or happenings that well. But all I see here is Goons (noobs) making a name for them selfís and building to become something, yes they may loose a lot of cheap ships, but its noobs vs. older pvp'ers, what do you expect. They where part of BoB and stayed when BoB left to form there own alliance. Now one goon noob makes a mistake toward one BoB member. Goon takes action against that member, but this is not good enough for BoB and BoB attacks there former bothers. Lol, I only think this goes to show that BoB will turn on there own members like the way the backstabbed in Cloud Ring and now backstabbed Goons while goons where taking Cloud Ring that BoB could not do. I think BoB cannot be trusted, they petition for any small thing, poor gm's and a bad show in being a sport by BoB, and brag about killing noobs, anybody can do that...

While in the same topic, yes goons are good sports and will fight like a swarm of bees, but they need to punch members for bad mouthing other players. Itís only game and you will learn bad mouthing other players will only get you banned. Itís also not good sport.

Sorry if I upset some people, but thatís only my 2isks. Im not fighting for BoB and im not fighting for Goons that is just what I see, maybe im not the only one.

Hellraiza666
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:47:00 - [118]
 

Well goons you can smack all you want, you cant ruin your reputation any more its so low.

BoBs objective is to destroy you, and they aint going stop till you disband whether you like it or not.


localandbitter
Gallente
Astrum Contract Services Group
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:48:00 - [119]
 

Wow, what a toolshed.

All I have to say is, OT + SA ftw.

Treylis
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.04 12:49:00 - [120]
 

The joke's on BoB, we're actually making money on all those plat-insured shuttles.


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