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Terraform
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:10:00 - [1]
 

Just read the topic title and tell if it's a yes or a no :) it's a bet i have going with a friend.

HappyKitten
Caldari
Fiat Mort
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:11:00 - [2]
 

A competant domi pilot will **** the kestrels.

LWMaverick
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:12:00 - [3]
 

Laughing you got to be kidding.

Ofc it can.

Terraform
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:12:00 - [4]
 

please feel free to explain HOW the dominix will own the kestrels :) it's quite important that i get that info as well!

Hamatitio
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:13:00 - [5]
 

Nos, ewar, drones, and stabs.

YOu know, the usual domi setup.

Mihae
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:14:00 - [6]
 

1 ECM
2 Light T2 Drones
3 Webbing Drones
4 Heavy Nosferatu

Terraform
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:14:00 - [7]
 

Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:15:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Terraform
Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)


Try it. No point discussing Theory Online.

Antoinette Civari
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:16:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Terraform
Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)


how would your drones get owned by jammed kestrels?

Wat0721
United Systems of the Allegiance
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:16:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Terraform
Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)


LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

LWMaverick
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:16:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Terraform
please feel free to explain HOW the dominix will own the kestrels :) it's quite important that i get that info as well!


High: 3 Heavy nosf, 3 medium neuts
Medium: Web,sensor booster, Heavy cap injector, Drone tracking thingy and so on
Low: T2 Large armor rep, 2x 1600mm RT plates, 3 t2 hardeners or 3 EANM t2's & named dmg control

Drones: Light, Mediums and heavy's

Im pretty sure you would be able to survive a hel'uv'a lot more than 4 kessy's Wink

Dethis
Caldari
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:16:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Dethis on 01/08/2006 22:16:56
Originally by: Terraform
Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)


The size of the domis drone bay will allow him to send wave after wave of light drones and they will kill you before you kill his drones.

Not to mention he could probably just tank you forever

LWMaverick
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:19:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: LWMaverick on 01/08/2006 22:23:40
Originally by: Terraform
Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)



The domi has room for 37(7 wave) Medium drones or exactly 75(15 waves) light drones Laughing

GL killing that, before those kessy's go pop


EDIT: Updated with Wave amounts, just for the lameness YARRRR!!

Hamatitio
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:20:00 - [14]
 

haha.

HappyKitten
Caldari
Fiat Mort
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:21:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: HappyKitten
A competant domi pilot will **** the kestrels.
Originally by: Terraform
please feel free to explain HOW the dominix will own the kestrels :) it's quite important that i get that info as well!


Oh, don't worry. You're screwed.

KilROCK
Minmatar
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus Ex.
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:23:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: KilROCK on 01/08/2006 22:26:01
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Terraform
Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)



The domi has room for 37 Medium drones or exactly 75 light drones Laughing

GL killing that, before those kessy's go pop

Yea, Because a regular dominix dronebay consist of alot of light drones in general Rolling Eyes

There's no real debate here, the way EVE works, here is what happens:
Dominix sees 4 kestrels, kestrel gain lock first. They all have 1 multispec fitted. Oh geez, Dominix is jammed. Dominix stays there while tanking, his cap will run out before he gets a chance at locking anything EVER again.

Without ECM and speculating the dominix pilot might be fitted for taking out 4 kestrel or a pre-arranged fight, he wins. Other than that, 4 Kestrel with 1 multispec each > Dominix.

LWMaverick
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:25:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Terraform
Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)



The domi has room for 37 Medium drones or exactly 75 light drones Laughing

GL killing that, before those kessy's go pop

Yea, Because a regular dominix dronebay consist of alot of light drones in general Rolling Eyes





Did he mention anything about a "regular dominix" ?

Roll eyes somewhere else...

KilROCK
Minmatar
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus Ex.
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:26:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Terraform
Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)



The domi has room for 37 Medium drones or exactly 75 light drones Laughing

GL killing that, before those kessy's go pop

Yea, Because a regular dominix dronebay consist of alot of light drones in general Rolling Eyes





Did he mention anything about a "regular dominix" ?

Roll eyes somewhere else...


Did he mention it has to be a pre-arranged fight? I'll rolleyes all over you.

LWMaverick
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:28:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: LWMaverick on 01/08/2006 22:29:31
Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Terraform
Ewar and nos does not kill the kestrels, and the drones will probably be owned by the huge amount of rockets. Please explain a bit more in detail :)



The domi has room for 37 Medium drones or exactly 75 light drones Laughing

GL killing that, before those kessy's go pop

Yea, Because a regular dominix dronebay consist of alot of light drones in general Rolling Eyes





Did he mention anything about a "regular dominix" ?

Roll eyes somewhere else...


Did he mention it has to be a pre-arranged fight? I'll rolleyes all over you.


Originally by: Terraform
Can a full skill domi survive vs. 4 full skill rocket Kestrels?


Originally by: Terraform
please feel free to explain HOW the dominix will own the kestrels :) it's quite important that i get that info as well!


That sounds like a pre-arranged fight to me.

inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
Asomat Drive Yards
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:28:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: KilROCK
There's no real debate here, the way EVE works, here is what happens:
Dominix sees 4 kestrels, kestrel gain lock first. They all have 1 multispec fitted.
If you can make up the setup of a "typical" Kestrel, then I'll make up my "typical" Dominix to be crammed with ECCM. Laughing

Hydrian Alante
The Loot Company
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:28:00 - [21]
 

5 Hammerhead II shred a Kestrel in a matter of Seconds.

Maybe you got killed before you locked 2 of them.

These drones have enough hp to take some punishment from a tech I frig. Weven you can destroy all 5 the domi pilot can launch another 5.

KilROCK
Minmatar
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus Ex.
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:30:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: KilROCK on 01/08/2006 22:30:32
Originally by: LWMaverick

Originally by: Terraform
please feel free to explain HOW the dominix will own the kestrels :) it's quite important that i get that info as well!


That sounds like a pre-arranged fight to me.


It doesn't. It can happen.

Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: KilROCK
There's no real debate here, the way EVE works, here is what happens:
Dominix sees 4 kestrels, kestrel gain lock first. They all have 1 multispec fitted.
If you can make up the setup of a "typical" Kestrel, then I'll make up my "typical" Dominix to be crammed with ECCM. Laughing


Typical? That would be the smart thing to do, and fitting 75 light drones or alot of medium and light on your 'solo' dominix isn't common at all.

HappyKitten
Caldari
Fiat Mort
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:30:00 - [23]
 

4 multispecs would be unwise. 3 and a damp would work much better, maybe even 2 and 2.

wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:31:00 - [24]
 

well i will say u gona last until domi will locks u and then like 10 secs

LWMaverick
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:32:00 - [25]
 

Rolling Eyes K

inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
Asomat Drive Yards
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:35:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: KilROCK
Typical? That would be the smart thing to do, and fitting 75 light drones or alot of medium and light on your 'solo' dominix isn't common at all.
Have a look through the ship setups sticky and count the number of ECM mods you see fitted to Kestrels. Those are "typical" setups.

I'm not defending the crazy uber-light Dominix. I'm trying to make the point (humourously, to give this thread a bit of light heart Rolling Eyes) that these kinds of discussions are completely pointless. We could make up fittings all day long to win either way, where in reality none of them would appear in the field.

Aakron
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:46:00 - [27]
 

I think I'd sit there tanking until they ran out of ammo

Waragha
GreenSwarm
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2006.08.01 22:59:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 01/08/2006 22:30:32
Originally by: LWMaverick

Originally by: Terraform
please feel free to explain HOW the dominix will own the kestrels :) it's quite important that i get that info as well!


That sounds like a pre-arranged fight to me.


It doesn't. It can happen.

Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: KilROCK
There's no real debate here, the way EVE works, here is what happens:
Dominix sees 4 kestrels, kestrel gain lock first. They all have 1 multispec fitted.
If you can make up the setup of a "typical" Kestrel, then I'll make up my "typical" Dominix to be crammed with ECCM. Laughing


Typical? That would be the smart thing to do, and fitting 75 light drones or alot of medium and light on your 'solo' dominix isn't common at all.


It can happen but its very unlikely. Also the kestrels might miss the first cycle, and the dominix will then keep them jammed. And if this is at a gate the dominix might aswell deagress and leave.

It's very hard to argue because there are alot of factors that come in to play (drones in bay, luck on cycles and being able to deagress). I think we can all be reasonably sure that the dominix will have a higher chance of winning then fight... And i guess thats really what the discussion is about isnt it?

xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2006.08.01 23:04:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Terraform
Just read the topic title and tell if it's a yes or a no :) it's a bet i have going with a friend.


yes, without even breaking a sweat. The kestrels would all be dead in 30 seconds or so, and the domi MIGHT have had to think about turning on an armor repper.

lestus
Amarr
BlastWave Core
Posted - 2006.08.01 23:14:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Terraform
Just read the topic title and tell if it's a yes or a no :) it's a bet i have going with a friend.


last night i survived 2 rocket kessies in a punisher they were pummelling me at 2500m range-until they blew up; and you are having doubts that dominix will survive 4?????? lol you don't give it enough credit my friend, that extra %2 skill does really help :P


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