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Ouroboron
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.01 23:37:00 - [61]
 

Posting in a chest thumping thread.

Cincle
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2006.08.01 23:44:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: SaorAlba

At most you entertained us for a few weeks. In the end you achieved nothing and lost everything. Now hush hush and go mine veldspar for the swarm. You lose, we win. Plain and simpleCool


Okay, you won the system, but we maintained sov for a couple of weeks, which wasn't expected from a "noob allience", and it took quite a bit of efford / firepower to finally drive us out of the system.

So I don't think we'll see this as a "loss" per se.

terminal mehmet
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.01 23:45:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: terminal mehmet on 01/08/2006 23:46:02
Originally by: SaorAlba


- Eject members who produce " funny sigs" and video's with no other purpose to grief.




edit: stupid forum ate my post

Actually, we already do that. I'm sure things will get lively sooner or later. But we had a pretty big withdrawal to deal with; so we're not exactly rushing back into S-U with fully charged freighters to be ground into BoB's space dust.

It was fun talking you ya'll in local on the day XZH died though. ugh

Crivens
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.01 23:48:00 - [64]
 

Edited by: Crivens on 01/08/2006 23:56:21
Edited by: Crivens on 01/08/2006 23:50:40
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov
Oh, and Goons don't want Syndicat, but you know how much D2 "didn't want XZH", equate that for us to Syndicate.


I expected nothing less.

It's exactly what scared people say when they are trying anything to get thier worst nightmare out of their home system.



This post isn't meant as smack, nor as passive agressive excusing.

Bob camping s-u is far from my worst fear, and not even high up in my eve fear list.

Since bob has come to s-u i've been taking some time with some other goons who are on the same timezone as I to go low sec and 0.0 ganking. We're pretty much all less than three months old, with a move experienced cov-ops pilot. We're having loads of fun and learning loads. The richness of xzh and s-u has left my wallet bloated, I can afford to fit and fly empire price cruisers for the forseeable future.

I think most of goonfleet is doing this kind of thing. This is the first time EVER in this game my pvp has not been centred around defending s-u, or attacking outer ring, or attacking xzh-. It's kind of liberating to not be in a hundreds strong gang for once; though a lot scarier too.

I'm having a blast, exploring an aspect of the game I haven't had chance to thus far and getting some really good experience in pvp. Fleet battles where the extent of my actions were lag...lag...lock...lag...lag...scramble/web....lag....lag.... didn't make me that much of a player I'm sure.

Hopefully this will.

Whilst my main is elsewhere in the stars, I have frigate flying alts in s-u dying in free frigates and newbie ships to bob. You should see the gang chat we're having out here, we're competing to get killed the most and not even discussing the game whilst filling your killboards with worthless ships. It's a hilarious time.

After the pressure of xzh-, s-u and suicide frigate rushes are, frankly, relaxing. My alts clones are free, and the frigates he flys are free. Pod him all you want!

Hopefully by the time my main comes back to s-u he'll be able to fly fully t2 fitted cruisers and intys, and i'll have the experience to use those fittings to the fullest.

It is a fine time to be a goon.

EDIT: basically, I have tens of ships in s-u and I can come and get them anytime. There's no need for me to hurry back (in my main), it's a big universe and a big game. I'm not leaving goonswarm anytime soon - where else would I go? Who else would offer my three month old character the experience we had up in xzh- ? If your character has grown up playing eve-online i'm sure there's plenty of other corps for you to go to, but my character has grown up playing goonfleet, and that game is far too fun to leave.

Crivens
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.01 23:53:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: terminal mehmet

It was fun talking you ya'll in local on the day XZH died though. ugh


That was mostly RAZOR. Those guys are a lot more laid back than d2, who took us being in xzh- rather more personally.

I think razor just wanted the fights, and were as amused/disapointed by the lag as we were.

NATMav
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
The Initiative.
Posted - 2006.08.01 23:53:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: xttz

  • Goonswarm are the ones who kicked you from an rather profitable system


  • By taking advantage of offline POS that were being transferred from D2 to YouWhat. Hardly "kicking them out" by force.

  • Goonswarm kept you out of it for three weeks.


  • There were no D2 in XZH?

  • Goonswarm are comprised of a majority of players with Eve experience measured in weeks, rather than the months and years of D2.


  • You can't use that anymore. We know better.

  • Goonswarm forced you to spend an obscene amount of ISK on POS towers and fuel rather than risk anymore fleet losses against us.


  • Systems aren't won by fleet battles. GS is so ever effective at proving that, otherwise they would have been gone on day one.

  • Goonswarm did this with a military force based around Tech 1 frigates and cheap fittings.


And SMASH dreads, and again, you can use the T1 frigs excuse anymore, we know better.

So after all of that, are we pretty damn good to compete with the likes of you, or are you pretty **** to be stalled by 'space trash' like us?


Don't get me wrong, you definitely made it a chore for D2 to remove you from XZH, but it's hardly the accomplishment you make it out to be.

Berrik Radhok
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.08.01 23:59:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Shimpu
Edited by: Shimpu on 01/08/2006 23:36:25
Originally by: xttz
Originally by: SaorAlba
Currently Training: Basic Discussion Forum Posting II
3 months, 5 days, 19 hours, 3 minutes, 55 seconds

So after all your criticism, all the faults you see in us, and all our internal problems you think you know about, consider this:

  • Goonswarm are the ones who kicked you from an rather profitable system

  • Goonswarm kept you out of it for three weeks.

  • Goonswarm are comprised of a majority of players with Eve experience measured in weeks, rather than the months and years of D2.

  • Goonswarm forced you to spend an obscene amount of ISK on POS towers and fuel rather than risk anymore fleet losses against us.

  • Goonswarm did this with a military force based around Tech 1 frigates and cheap fittings.


So after all of that, are we pretty damn good to compete with the likes of you, or are you pretty **** to be stalled by 'space trash' like us?


Who's your daddy!? Face it... you ran against a wall and don't even have somewhere to go after your defeat except empire. Embarassed
I hope you achieve more 'great' victories like this Laughing


I just bookmarked this post so that I can make you eat these words at some future point Razz

Sinlare
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:03:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Berrik Radhok

Translation: raah raaaaah I'm older than you respect me

I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed D2 is made up of mostly other failed corps and alliances from the past and snickers accordingly.


Erhm...

Isn't it your alliance that, after going out to play somewhere without bos/OSS on your side, made nice progress but managed to f*** things up completely?
It's not like you've accomplished something, other then to try and fail miserably :/

It's nice that you insult, like you said, older alliances, but you can't do it the way you do without actually making something of yourself first, without the help of others.
And we've all seen now how that went...

Ouroboron
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:05:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: NATMav
Don't get me wrong, you definitely made it a chore for D2 to remove you from XZH, but it's hardly the accomplishment you make it out to be.



Cool. Which T1 Noob Frigate corps have accomplished more do you think?




Crivens
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:11:00 - [70]
 

Goons please stop chest beating :)

We had fun in xzh- but now we are not in xzh- therefore d2 won.

Congratulations d2!

I hope we play again together soon :)

Soob
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:11:00 - [71]
 

I personally look forward to some fun pvp. I find the only way to better myself at this game is through experience and hard knocks. Although I won't be charging head first into a bubblecamp anytime soon, I'll do my best to give you guys some entertaining fights.

Sinlare
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:16:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Ouroboron
Originally by: NATMav
Don't get me wrong, you definitely made it a chore for D2 to remove you from XZH, but it's hardly the accomplishment you make it out to be.



Cool. Which T1 Noob Frigate corps have accomplished more do you think?




So... if i go look at the killboards of the people you've been fighting with in xzh, i will only find t1 frigs, right? right....? Hang your head in shame if i find any cruisers or battleships on there.

Degaal Valen
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:17:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: Degaal Valen on 02/08/2006 00:17:42
Edited by: Degaal Valen on 02/08/2006 00:16:59
Originally by: fire 59
your a ******* moron, define nerd, do they kickbox, weight train, go running, do the marathon, work hard, socialise, you ******* **** !!


Anyways not to interrupt my impending internet doom for the actions of someone who isn't even in my alliance anymore, but I do think being derisively called nerd by an MMO player is one of those pot and kettle situations magnified by like 1000x.

I mean anyone who comes to a discussion board to argue about their imaginary spaceships is pretty much a giant nerd. Myself included. o7

LightMee
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:23:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: LightMee on 02/08/2006 00:23:54
This is how Goonswarm is funding the war against BoB

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=372893

Herberge
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:25:00 - [75]
 

Edited by: Herberge on 02/08/2006 00:27:21
^^^Edit - wow, what a perfect example^^^

Why are so many of the people in the "uber" alliances so completely without any form of grace or humour? Every time you have a victory you crow about it, no matter how much of a disadvantage your opponent was working with (in XZH we had a surprise start, around 10% of our opponents' skillpoints, pilot for pilot, a tiny fraction of their isk and, unless I'm mistaken, fewer overall pilots than the seven or so alliances we were facing, not counting BoB's entry against us in the last couple of days). We lost XZH. Frankly we were amazed and pleased to hold it as long as we did. So well done to D2 and BoB, but my goodness do a lot of you have absolutely ****ty attitudes. Frankly I think most of you have forgotten the pure joy of emerging into an incredible game like Eve, because the bitterness and hate are strong in you.

Marovinchian
Gallente
Mean Corp
Mean Coalition
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:27:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Cincle
Originally by: SaorAlba

At most you entertained us for a few weeks. In the end you achieved nothing and lost everything. Now hush hush and go mine veldspar for the swarm. You lose, we win. Plain and simpleCool


Okay, you won the system, but we maintained sov for a couple of weeks, which wasn't expected from a "noob allience", and it took quite a bit of efford / firepower to finally drive us out of the system.

So I don't think we'll see this as a "loss" per se.



when you lose it's not a loss if you put "per se" after it......Rolling Eyes

Ranstaton
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:29:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: LightMee
Edited by: LightMee on 02/08/2006 00:23:54
This is how Goonswarm is funding the war against BoB

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=372893


stop the ****ing presses


this is horrible and i am leaving goonfleet now, thank you for bringing this to my attention

Sinlare
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:29:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Herberge
Edited by: Herberge on 02/08/2006 00:27:21
^^^Edit - wow, what a perfect example^^^

Why are so many of the people in the "uber" alliances so completely without any form of grace or humour? Every time you have a victory you crow about it, no matter how much of a disadvantage your opponent was working with (in XZH we had a surprise start, around 10% of our opponents' skillpoints, pilot for pilot, a tiny fraction of their isk and, unless I'm mistaken, fewer overall pilots than the seven or so alliances we were facing, not counting BoB's entry against us in the last couple of days). We lost XZH. Frankly we were amazed and pleased to hold it as long as we did. So well done to D2 and BoB, but my goodness do a lot of you have absolutely ****ty attitudes. Frankly I think most of you have forgotten the pure joy of emerging into an incredible game like Eve, because the bitterness and hate are strong in you.


I guess you've missed the 100 threads and 3250 replies on the forums about your t1 frig uberness by your dear alliance mates.

Marovinchian
Gallente
Mean Corp
Mean Coalition
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:32:00 - [79]
 

if your alliance showed a bit more grace, humility, and for the love of god plain human decency....maybe you wouldn't have the enemies you have

Degaal Valen
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:38:00 - [80]
 

I just want to know if it's possible to have a war between alliances where each side doesn't seem to want to punch the other in the face in real life if they met.

fmercury
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:41:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Degaal Valen
I just want to know if it's possible to have a war between alliances where each side doesn't seem to want to punch the other in the face in real life if they met.


Yes, it happens all the time. Goonfleet is the exception to the rule.

Kyguard
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:43:00 - [82]
 

What's with the D2 smack? Only reason you took XZH back is because BoB stepped on Goonswarm's toes. Laughing

Aversin
Gallente
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2006.08.02 00:50:00 - [83]
 

So thats why there were so many BoB, I jumped into that and my heart jumped. Lucky me I made it out, had to go back for a screenshot though.

Imode
Gallente
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
Posted - 2006.08.02 01:14:00 - [84]
 

Honestly, what happened to the Goonfleet I thought I knew?

Back when you guys were a bunch of a little bees crying about sovereignty skills I always thought the idea and the plight of the Goons was somewhat cute and a little charming. Then it seems your members discovered the Corporation & Alliances forum, and now you're this ugly multi-headed poison-spewing monster.

CitzNo 097864
Caldari
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.08.02 01:14:00 - [85]
 

Edited by: CitzNo 097864 on 02/08/2006 01:14:30
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov
Oh, and Goons don't want Syndicat, but you know how much D2 "didn't want XZH", equate that for us to Syndicate.


I expected nothing less.

It's exactly what scared people say when they are trying anything to get thier worst nightmare out of their home system.

I imagine the next one will be "we're breaking up coz of internal problems, nothing to do with anyone else though!!111"

Enjoy empire, we'll still be here when you get back.

dbp


IT'S HUUUUUUUUGE!

Sergeant Spot
Caldari
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2006.08.02 01:42:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Herberge
Edited by: Herberge on 02/08/2006 00:27:21
^^^Edit - wow, what a perfect example^^^

Why are so many of the people in the "uber" alliances so completely without any form of grace or humour? Every time you have a victory you crow about it, no matter how much of a disadvantage your opponent was working with (in XZH we had a surprise start, around 10% of our opponents' skillpoints, pilot for pilot, a tiny fraction of their isk and, unless I'm mistaken, fewer overall pilots than the seven or so alliances we were facing, not counting BoB's entry against us in the last couple of days). We lost XZH. Frankly we were amazed and pleased to hold it as long as we did. So well done to D2 and BoB, but my goodness do a lot of you have absolutely ****ty attitudes. Frankly I think most of you have forgotten the pure joy of emerging into an incredible game like Eve, because the bitterness and hate are strong in you.


I can remember many time where there were statements of respect for worthy opponents. But in those cases the opponents earned respect and played a good game. Such fights are usually marked by a distinct lack of smack by both the defeated and the winner (A polite comment in sea of smack does not count......)


Nahual
Gallente
NibbleTek
Posted - 2006.08.02 01:45:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Nahual on 02/08/2006 01:45:27
Originally by: Kyguard
What's with the D2 smack? Only reason you took XZH back is because BoB stepped on Goonswarm's toes. Laughing


Get a clue about what happened in XZH.

We tried to take it back the way CCP intended (dreads) - which was squashed by lag/other issues, so when we went down to it we did it the way that we could easily. POS war, do we enjoy that? No, but there was no doubt that we could do it at any stage we wish. (And that was GS prefered tactic aswell)

Anille Kole
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2006.08.02 01:47:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Herberge
Edited by: Herberge on 02/08/2006 00:27:21
^^^Edit - wow, what a perfect example^^^

Why are so many of the people in the "uber" alliances so completely without any form of grace or humour? Every time you have a victory you crow about it, no matter how much of a disadvantage your opponent was working with (in XZH we had a surprise start, around 10% of our opponents' skillpoints, pilot for pilot, a tiny fraction of their isk and, unless I'm mistaken, fewer overall pilots than the seven or so alliances we were facing, not counting BoB's entry against us in the last couple of days). We lost XZH. Frankly we were amazed and pleased to hold it as long as we did. So well done to D2 and BoB, but my goodness do a lot of you have absolutely ****ty attitudes. Frankly I think most of you have forgotten the pure joy of emerging into an incredible game like Eve, because the bitterness and hate are strong in you.
I'm guessing they have "no grace or humour" because you're treating them like crap, with posts like "Translation: raah raaaaah I'm older than you respect me." that will spin any legitimate counter into chest thumping. Also, no "humour" isn't really from them not having humour, but from your version of it tending to be things such as constantly referring to kick-boxing girlfriends or copying someone's signature into every one of your posts, among other things that are either too offensive or too ridiculous to mention. I think they don't have a good attitude towards you because, frankly, your entire alliance has the tendency to (figuratively) take a crap, light it on fire, and then throw it at your enemy and act like you were being nice to them for doing so.

Oh, wait, I can't attack you because you're "a bunch of poor newbies", I'm "waving my SP in GoonSwarm's face", I'm doing something that starts with "e-" that makes no sense, or I'm just beating my chest. I say you give it a rest on all this worthless propaganda, you're not doing well on the forum front, and you're doing much worse than you say on the ingame front.

ProphetGuru
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.08.02 01:52:00 - [89]
 

As part of my service to the Eve community, I will translate this example of a goon post, without charge, and free of any obligation.

Originally by: Vahl
It would be a serious blunder to haphazardly charge headfirst into Syndicate and BoB's superior firepower

"We're mostly talk."

Quote:
while still in the middle of a tactical withdrawal

"While we run away from D2 space with our tails between our legs."

Quote:
Perhaps we are regrouping and formulating a plan

"We have no clue what to do. How come our forum posts haven't scared BoB away."

Quote:
While we were gone BoB moved in and has the entire system camped.

"We got PWNed at homeSad"

Quote:
While kamikaze tactics are indeed a mainstay of ours wholesale suicide for absolutely no gain is not.

"Someone told us ammo is cheaper then frigates, so we can't use our usual tactics."

Quote:
You will get your fight in SU, but its going to be on our time when we are ready,


"I've seen the above phrase posted by every other alliance BoB has ROCKED so far in game, so I gonna try it again and hope people buy into my bull****."

Quote:
so you sit there and have fun watching a bubble

PG-With people like Siddy in BoB, this is actually not a problem.

Quote:
and wait for us, and like it.

"Even tho my corpmates are making fun of this internet spaceship game, I'm gonna use the last line here to show I am a real tough guy. No really. Stop Laughing at us."



Ilvari
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.08.02 01:55:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Nahual
Edited by: Nahual on 02/08/2006 01:45:27
Originally by: Kyguard
What's with the D2 smack? Only reason you took XZH back is because BoB stepped on Goonswarm's toes. Laughing


Get a clue about what happened in XZH.

We tried to take it back the way CCP intended (dreads) - which was squashed by lag/other issues, so when we went down to it we did it the way that we could easily. POS war, do we enjoy that? No, but there was no doubt that we could do it at any stage we wish. (And that was GS prefered tactic aswell)


I don't get the lag-whines from D2 in any case. Do you think you'd have saved a single of the 19 dreadnoughts in the first POS siege if it wasn't for our scramblers taking 10 minutes to activate. How likely would it be for a dreads to switch off their siege module and go to warp before someone has a tackle on them.

The whole battle ended up when your dreads went out of siege and warped off one by one and no goons could do anything about it since lag stopped us from scrambling them. So in a way, lag may have caused 4 dreadnoughts to die because their schildboosters didn't activate, but it also saved 15 others. Stop this idiotic meme that D2 were the only victims of lag, both sides suffered equally.

P.S. good to see that the new anti-alt policy on this forum works so well Rolling Eyes


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