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Alaesa
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2006.07.13 14:54:00 - [151]
 

as far as I understand it. NFC wanted their cake and too eat it. FLA said no, with the help of IRON they were hurting NFC alot.

From a post earlier, it looks like both sides attempted to hire MC.

I would guess that NFC disbanded mainly because they were about to go pop anyway what with MC up in the area.

So NFC join SPARTA and try to take the entire area and napping the GOONS hoping to force everyone to surrender only to make veryone angry at their behavior and give themselves a mortal wound. All we have to do is wait till see how long they take to die.

Im curious how much help the GOONS can actually be what with their fights with D2.

Will be fun to watch.

Alierite
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.07.13 14:56:00 - [152]
 

Ouchie.. i guess no-one learnt anything from tribute
Baskstabbing makes people not like you Crying or Very sad doh

Alaesa
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2006.07.13 14:58:00 - [153]
 

oh, must not forget the trav incident of supreme ******ness.

Bitter Vet
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2006.07.13 14:59:00 - [154]
 

Edited by: Bitter Vet on 13/07/2006 14:59:38
i don't know what's funnier, d2's clients all revolting because they see d2 as weak and incompetent, or d2 having to hire MC to attack Sparta because they can't beat them otherwise LaughingLaughingLaughing

edit: oh yeah im sure fla just hired them by themselves they had no help from IRON or D2 I'm sure hahaah

Laythun
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:03:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: Bitter Vet
Edited by: Bitter Vet on 13/07/2006 14:59:38
i don't know what's funnier, d2's clients all revolting because they see d2 as weak and incompetent, or d2 having to hire MC to attack Sparta because they can't beat them otherwise LaughingLaughingLaughing

edit: oh yeah im sure fla just hired them by themselves they had no help from IRON or D2 I'm sure hahaah


Hi alt.

I can say stuff too. Watch this

Originally by: Bitter Vet

aLT rubbish




Look mom i quoted an alt.

Bitter Vet
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:04:00 - [156]
 

you can quote it all you want, doesn't make it not true Razz

Imran
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:09:00 - [157]
 

sweet a reason to log in.

Vanguard Secundus
Gallente
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:09:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: Bitter Vet
you can quote it all you want, doesn't make it not true Razz



Haha, Like the truth matters, Its all about what people perceive to be the truth, and even then, people ignore it...

Deidranna
Minmatar
Die wilde 13
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:10:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: Imran
sweet a reason to log in.


ohnoes...
Laughing CoolWink

d

Doragee
Minmatar
Unknown Society
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:24:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Bitter Vet
you can quote it all you want, doesn't make it not true Razz

Posting as an alt doesn't make it any better at all...but at least:
He (Laythum) got ballz, you deffo not...ugh

Bitter Vet
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:27:00 - [161]
 

hold on let me log in SirMolle and ill post ok

Doragee
Minmatar
Unknown Society
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:28:00 - [162]
 

Edited by: Doragee on 13/07/2006 15:28:46
That would at least be a step in the right direction...but:
Doesn't he get too angry being called a lame alt?

Edit:
Btw., if you're a Goonie-alt...plz update your KB...some are missing...Wink

Imran
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:31:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Deidranna
Originally by: Imran
sweet a reason to log in.


ohnoes...
Laughing CoolWink

d


Somebody has to loose alot of ships to hurt the IRON K/D ratio!!! *hides from darko*

weeee ;D

<3

Trespasser
Caldari
Exsilium Militaris
Innovia Alliance
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:40:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: Imran
sweet a reason to log in.


oh noez its over now imrans here xDLaughing

tyrol
Gallente
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:45:00 - [165]
 

*tyrol stops beating his drums, adjusts his tinfoil hat slightly, steals some popcorn and sits back to enjoy the rest of the show

Franky B
Gallente
AUS Corporation
CORE.
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:55:00 - [166]
 

... starting to miss the ol' "deklein for IRON, fade for G" days with all this tomfooery. tis about time deklein got the fat trimmed TBH, far too many cooks *****footing around the broth.

Renowned
Minmatar
Sentinels of Serenity
Posted - 2006.07.13 15:59:00 - [167]
 

I'm still concerned over a major alliance with supposed anti-piracy alignments NAPping Goon.

Heero Yuy
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2006.07.13 16:15:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Bitter Vet
Edited by: Bitter Vet on 13/07/2006 14:59:38
i don't know what's funnier, d2's clients all revolting because they see d2 as weak and incompetent, or d2 having to hire MC to attack Sparta because they can't beat them otherwise LaughingLaughingLaughing

edit: oh yeah im sure fla just hired them by themselves they had no help from IRON or D2 I'm sure hahaah



Pardon? We need help to hire MC? Yeah right, it's soooo hard to raise some isk.....

Montaire
Minmatar
Krusual Developments
Posted - 2006.07.13 16:21:00 - [169]
 

Wow. Fun thread. In the end dek is going to be a combat zone from one end to the other, we've already had some fun fights.

As to an unbaised view of what happened you will have to wait untill things calm down for that. I am obviously within Sparta, and I am not part of the top tier of leadership. It seems what happened was there were too many back room dealings, and because of that nobody really knew all that was going on.

None of that matters, as I dont think anyone wants a diplomatic solution now. Fighting is going on across the entire breath of Dek. I know of at least 1 confirmed carrier kill, tons of frig / cruiser / Battleships. Sparta had a close call with a dread and a few NOS Domi's.

Either way the fighting has been superb.

GhostStarWolf
Minmatar
Unfortunate Events
Posted - 2006.07.13 16:37:00 - [170]
 

Edited by: GhostStarWolf on 13/07/2006 16:38:31
[15:48:37] FotoFlame > but if these towers dont come down when we say then its war [15:49:13] Jacor Takor > we don't intend on offering them rfy anymore... not with warped mining having joined them [15:49:19] FotoFlame > when were the mc looking to operational?

[15:49:27] FotoFlame > to go*

[15:49:35] Jacor Takor > wednesday, support fleet goes hot. friday, capitol ship fleet goes hot.

[15:49:46] FotoFlame > rgr that

[15:49:51] FotoFlame > as for warped mining [15:49:54] FotoFlame > i wouldn't worry man [15:50:12] FotoFlame > once you have s-b and we have ju/vfk then its official [15:50:26] FotoFlame > if they try to rush either of us then iron/fla/d2 will fk them up [15:50:52] Jacor Takor > fla council still has serious concerns with david hope and avril dewar... and i'm in agreement with them.

[15:51:05] Jacor Takor > but it doesn't seem like that will matter anyhow if this turns to fighting [15:51:16] Jacor Takor > so d2 will side with us?

[15:51:29] FotoFlame > i agree, but lets face it, avril and david are noobs that had no idea what they were getting into [15:52:03] FotoFlame > now they've had their alliance destroyed right in front of them they would be stupid to try again [15:52:15] FotoFlame > sparta need to give us a real reason to remove them [15:52:33] FotoFlame > and that will be when they get ju/vfk sovereignty [15:52:39] Jacor Takor > just waiting for it. rgr [15:52:45] FotoFlame > if they don't unachor those towers then they're fkd [15:52:53] FotoFlame > or if they send us a reply saying 'no'

[15:53:16] FotoFlame > we'll give you half the towers and fittings for 3jn [15:53:29] FotoFlame > they're better used than destroyed [15:53:39] Jacor Takor > lol indeed [15:54:00] FotoFlame > but whatever happens m8, ;ets keep a close eye on those fkrs [15:54:04] FotoFlame > something is definately up [15:54:39] Jacor Takor > we won't let our guard down for a moment [15:55:02] Jacor Takor > we'll be treating sparta the same way we did when they came in with that hauler. guns at the ready.

[15:56:17] FotoFlame > cool m8

[15:57:12] FotoFlame > lets see what they have to say for themselves [16:00:00] FotoFlame > wow i said fk an awful lot in this convo [16:00:45] Jacor Takor > i've been cursing more since this war began -_- [16:00:56] FotoFlame > lol [16:01:00] Jacor Takor > i just wanted fragging honest peace in deklein. i'm sick of this crap.

[16:01:29] FotoFlame > ye exactly

[16:01:44] FotoFlame > it could have ended so differently if they weren't so damn greedy [16:02:02] Jacor Takor > we gladly would have worked with nfc if they had actually worked WITH us [16:02:05] FotoFlame > i just want it tied up now so we can deal with the goons [16:02:08] Jacor Takor > rather than screwing with us [16:02:13] FotoFlame > yup [16:02:16] Jacor Takor > yeah, goons are definitely a pressing concern [16:03:23] Jacor Takor > i just can't honestly believe that sparta leadership is this stupid [16:04:09] FotoFlame > we're totally stunned by it too [16:04:19] FotoFlame > oh, one question [16:04:39] FotoFlame > if they do take down the towers and play ball, what becomes of the MC contract?

[16:04:52] FotoFlame > and the money spent on hiring them [16:05:36] Jacor Takor > they'll probably kill goons [16:05:45] FotoFlame > excellent [16:05:52] FotoFlame > would you guys still have to pay?

[16:06:20] Jacor Takor > yeah, we would.

[16:06:37] Jacor Takor > but if it keeps our space secure for two weeks, giving us time to recoup, i'd say its worth it [16:06:49] Jacor Takor > gives you guys time to set up soveirgnty [16:07:48] FotoFlame > thats a good point [16:07:56] FotoFlame > would be a nice gesture to d2 actually [16:08:02] FotoFlame > i'm sure they'd love you for it [16:08:12] Jacor Takor > oh, yes, i'm sure they'd love a secure southern flank [16:08:22] Jacor Takor > we want to be in good with d2, absolutely [16:16:31] Jacor Takor > i just got told by a member of khm that goonswarm is not going to co

GhostStarWolf
Minmatar
Unfortunate Events
Posted - 2006.07.13 16:41:00 - [171]
 

[16:06:20] Jacor Takor > yeah, we would.

[16:06:37] Jacor Takor > but if it keeps our space secure for two weeks, giving us time to recoup, i'd say its worth it [16:06:49] Jacor Takor > gives you guys time to set up soveirgnty [16:07:48] FotoFlame > thats a good point [16:07:56] FotoFlame > would be a nice gesture to d2 actually [16:08:02] FotoFlame > i'm sure they'd love you for it [16:08:12] Jacor Takor > oh, yes, i'm sure they'd love a secure southern flank [16:08:22] Jacor Takor > we want to be in good with d2, absolutely [16:16:31] Jacor Takor > i just got told by a member of khm that goonswarm is not going to come to deklein... mainly because since khm is in fla, they see deklein as a region they don't want to interfere with [16:17:17] Jacor Takor > khm has a lot of bloody friends i didn't know about -_- [16:26:16] FotoFlame > really?

[16:26:31] FotoFlame > are you sure thats not just to keep us out of engaging goon [16:26:37] Jacor Takor > has anyone checked with CCP to see if SPARTA's claim that soveirgnty will immediately move to them once warped mining joins? or if the 5 day rule will apply anyhow [16:26:40] FotoFlame > and helping in fade [16:26:47] Jacor Takor > i will ask khm for more details [16:27:11] FotoFlame > according to sparta they're confident it'll happen after dt but i have no idea tbh [16:27:23] FotoFlame > we deployed a tower there today to catch it just in case [16:27:25] Jacor Takor > bidman and i were saying that exact same thing [16:27:38] FotoFlame > of course we don't expect to hold it if bob decide they want some fun [16:27:50] FotoFlame > but by that point we'll be away fighting goon anyway [16:31:24] Jacor Takor > ahhh... KHM has irl friends who lead goonfleet [16:31:53] Jacor Takor > so we can engage them outside of deklein, but they don't want to come to deklein and they don't want us to come to their home space ever. this is primarily for fla [16:32:02] Jacor Takor > so far as defending D2, whatever is acceptable [16:33:24] Jacor Takor > hrm, makes me wonder about the MC situation now [16:33:43] Jacor Takor > maybe we'll just use them for sparta... that is assuming sparta does continue to take aggressive stances against us [16:35:33] FotoFlame > damn thats strange [16:35:48] FotoFlame > i guess iron would be a valid target for goon [16:35:56] Jacor Takor > yeah, ... apparently we hit gold with the corps we recruited [16:36:19] Jacor Takor > yeah, but i think khm has informed them taht we would have to intervene if that happened and they don't want that [16:36:42] FotoFlame > interesting [16:36:52] FotoFlame > in that case MC might be left without a target [16:36:57] FotoFlame > would you get your money back?

[16:37:06] Jacor Takor > would d2 find it strange if goon went around deklein? :/ [16:37:42] FotoFlame > if we had goon as residents?

[16:37:47] FotoFlame > lol yea i think they would [16:37:59] Jacor Takor > not as residents [16:38:07] Jacor Takor > neither of us will be granting them docking rights [16:38:18] Jacor Takor > and i don't expect to allow them to cyno into dek either [16:38:27] FotoFlame > i see what you mean, if they went for branch next [16:38:32] FotoFlame > and skipped dek [16:38:33] Jacor Takor > right [16:38:48] FotoFlame > i'd best not answer that [16:39:10] Jacor Takor > -_- [16:39:50] Jacor Takor > well, fla and iron is free to help out in regards to the goonswarm issue... that would leave sparta to deal with [16:40:47] Jacor Takor > and we can't tell sparta that their concerns about goonfleet are invalid [16:40:51] Jacor Takor > oh such irony [16:41:45] Jacor Takor > anyhow, i have irl things to attend to [16:41:51] Jacor Takor > i should be back later [16:42:10] FotoFlame > ok m8, i'll hopefully catch you later then [16:42:15] Jacor Takor > l8r m8 [16:42:24] FotoFlame > o/




GhostStarWolf
Minmatar
Unfortunate Events
Posted - 2006.07.13 16:43:00 - [172]
 

[ 2006.07.09 05:25:47 ] MrReebok > hello
[ 2006.07.09 05:25:54 ] GhostStarWolf > dont jump yet pls
[ 2006.07.09 05:25:57 ] GhostStarWolf > :D
[ 2006.07.09 05:26:04 ] MrReebok > ok
[ 2006.07.09 05:26:10 ] MrReebok > Whats up?
[ 2006.07.09 05:26:18 ] GhostStarWolf > k you played sfc2 right?
[ 2006.07.09 05:26:25 ] MrReebok > Yep
[ 2006.07.09 05:26:29 ] GhostStarWolf > k right one :D
[ 2006.07.09 05:26:40 ] MrReebok > Hey Guys
[ 2006.07.09 05:26:40 ] GhostStarWolf > what do yuou know of iron and x13
[ 2006.07.09 05:26:49 ] MrReebok > Everything
[ 2006.07.09 05:26:56 ] MrReebok > Im on the concil
[ 2006.07.09 05:27:03 ] GhostStarWolf > so you know x13 was hired by iron
[ 2006.07.09 05:27:09 ] GhostStarWolf > to war deck us and nfc
[ 2006.07.09 05:27:09 ] MrReebok > Yep
[ 2006.07.09 05:27:21 ] MrReebok > I heard

d4ve
Minmatar
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.07.13 16:48:00 - [173]
 

ok i was trying to get thru the first two.. then you posted a third time and i thought "yay, something readable"

i read what it wrote and then i couldnt be bothered with the first two cause the third is COMEPLETE BULLS**T!

IRON has never and will never hire any mercs. we want to fight our own fights.

Ur Dirac
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2006.07.13 16:48:00 - [174]
 

ahahah chatlog scandals are great fun to read.

Laythun
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2006.07.13 16:52:00 - [175]
 

This is getting good.

*grabs popcorn*

Jacor Takor
Minmatar
FLA Holdings
Freelancer Alliance
Posted - 2006.07.13 17:04:00 - [176]
 

Edited by: Jacor Takor on 13/07/2006 17:05:25
Hrm. GhostStarWolf. Or anyone else interested in the contents of the above contact. My comments in that conversation regarding them were unconfirmed. More facts came to light afterwards.

I am not sure how you got a hold of what was supposed to be a private conversation between two diplomats/leaders, or your reasoning for posting it here, but I assure you no one in the north finds your interference welcome. You can also be sure that SPARTA are the ones who naped Goonswarm and not FLA. If anyone has questions, they are welcome to contact me in game. Please, if you are not involved in the north, there is no reason for you to ask me anything. Don't spam me. Thank you.

Li Koshi
Caldari
Dream Warriors Defence Alliance
Posted - 2006.07.13 17:24:00 - [177]
 

Eeeeee, doesn't the convo actually confirm what IRON / FLA say?

Stamm
Amarr
RHC
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2006.07.13 17:26:00 - [178]
 

Edited by: Stamm on 13/07/2006 17:45:20
Edit : Thanks for the convo FLA.

Zimi Vlasic
Amarr
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2006.07.13 17:28:00 - [179]
 

Sparta, you are pathetic.

It's a shame because I really liked your alliance, but now I will get great pleasure out of shooting you.

See you rubbish in space.

Razor Jaxx
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.07.13 17:43:00 - [180]
 

Meh. So tempted to chuck work aside and start playing again. Not cool. Evil or Very Mad


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