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KennyRogers
Posted - 2006.06.02 15:17:00 - [1]
 

Is it worth even going this far to get the extra mining bonus? if not, how far would you go and if you could explain why, much appreciated.

mining foreman link - laser optimization

currently i have 6% mining gang bonus

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Benco97
Gallente
Terraprobe Dynamics
Posted - 2006.06.02 15:21:00 - [2]
 

well I think (i'm not sure hanv't done it myself) that with mining director at level 5 the laser optimization thingy gives a 10% bonus to output? considering that you need mining foreman 5 that's a 20% bonus... though.. when I think about it I could just train foreman to 5 and then mine too... hmm.. we need answers on this please, why is it worth training to use these?

Bistot Kid
The First Thing You'll Ever See
Posted - 2006.06.02 15:28:00 - [3]
 

The Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization appears to be broken.

I get the bonuses from level 5 Mining Foreman OK, but when using the module fitted to my BC, with Mining Director level 3 it appears to make NO difference in yield or speed. Bit of a pain considering the time taken to train up to use it.

Would appreciate a Dev's response on this if any happen to be reading.

Benco97
Gallente
Terraprobe Dynamics
Posted - 2006.06.02 15:32:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Bistot Kid
The Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization appears to be broken.

I get the bonuses from level 5 Mining Foreman OK, but when using the module fitted to my BC, with Mining Director level 3 it appears to make NO difference in yield or speed.


Eep! that's serious, anyone else know more?

ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
Posted - 2006.06.02 15:32:00 - [5]
 

The laser optimisation link being broken is a known issue and has been for a while now

Kixyrya
Posted - 2006.06.02 15:35:00 - [6]
 

There are several posts regarding this in the Stations, Starbases and Outposts forums. Right now several things to be broken and not stacking together. There needs to be a dev post at least telling us what should and should not be stacking so people can avoid training useless skills and buying implants that don't work.

Nee'kita Frist
Posted - 2006.06.02 15:37:00 - [7]
 

The link is broken.

As per the gang rules. Only the highest gang bonus is applied. In this case your link is only doing 6% whilst you have mining foreman V which is 10%. Consquently Eve will take your foreman 5 over the gang module.

The best so far that has been established is to get squadron command to level 4 and mining director to level 4. There by creating a 12.5% bonus for you gang module. (and yes the Squardron Command skill is either incorrectly applied or misdescribed).

Of course you can also spend two months training to get that extra 2.5% bonus by getting squadron to level 5 and director to 5. At least.. I am being that crazy :/

Also there appears to be problems with the mindlink as well although no one is too sure about it yet due to conflicting reports on its functionality.

Sykosys
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2006.06.02 16:29:00 - [8]
 

I have bothe foreman and the one to use the gang link to lvl 4

The one to use the gang mod is kinda useless to a barge pilot as you can't really use the gang mod on a barge.

Perhaps a bonus to gang mods on Exhumers for those gang mining mods, Anyone that has foreman to 5 and the other skill to 4 isn't flying a cyclone for the most part. ugh

Drakus Felborne
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
Posted - 2006.06.02 16:58:00 - [9]
 

As I've heard it explained, the problem is that the mining gamg module is overlapping the mining foreman bonus instead of being it's own bonus, so you only see the effect of the module after squadron command pushes the module bonus past 10%.

Meuchelmorder
Peanut Factory
Good Sax
Posted - 2006.09.11 16:32:00 - [10]
 

This makes me so mad. I've spent countless days skilling for this gang link and to find out it doesnt work. Gah....Basically this is a bump looking for an Estimated Fix Date. CCP Please respond!!!!!! Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad

Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.09.11 16:40:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Meuchelmorder
This makes me so mad. I've spent countless days skilling for this gang link and to find out it doesnt work. Gah....Basically this is a bump looking for an Estimated Fix Date. CCP Please respond!!!!!! Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad


I'm expecting the fix around 3 months ago... Laughing

BoinKlasik
Senkei Jin
Posted - 2006.09.11 16:43:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: BoinKlasik on 11/09/2006 16:42:58
edit: blah

Serious Bob
Posted - 2006.09.11 16:53:00 - [13]
 

The Search option has its bad sides too.

Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.09.11 17:30:00 - [14]
 

It has been broken for a very very very long time, devs know about it, but as other broken already existing modules in game, the foreman links are ingnored.... our dear CCP is more concerned about releasing more and more of broken stuff(kali) and posting "WOW WE BROKE 30k USER BASE, (but our servers can't handle it)" ....god can't even imagine what a mess Kali going to be.

Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.09.11 17:34:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Ilya Murametz
It has been broken for a very very very long time, devs know about it, but as other broken already existing modules in game, the foreman links are ingnored.... our dear CCP is more concerned about releasing more and more of broken stuff(kali) and posting "WOW WE BROKE 30k USER BASE, (but our servers can't handle it)" ....god can't even imagine what a mess Kali going to be.


ffs, they work!

Nesa
Antares Fleet Yards
Molotov Coalition
Posted - 2006.09.15 06:21:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Nesa on 15/09/2006 06:22:24
Edited by: Nesa on 15/09/2006 06:22:10
The MODULE, works. The DESCRIPTION, is broken.

It gives a bonus to cycle time the same as the Ice Harvesting gang link. This is the fix as it was implemented months and months ago. (because the game logic didn't allow stacking of 2 gang bonuses to yield).

You can get a 10% mining foreman bonus, then up tp 10% cycle time reduction from the link, both of which I think are increased to 15% with the mindlink implant. So whether it's worth it depends on how many you're ganged with vs what ship you are / could be in I guess.

BTW you will not see any difference unless you're and ganged with someone in the system who's undocked.

Lucre
STK Scientific
Black-Out
Posted - 2006.09.15 10:27:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Nesa
The MODULE, works. The DESCRIPTION, is broken.

It gives a bonus to cycle time the same as the Ice Harvesting gang link. This is the fix as it was implemented months and months ago. (because the game logic didn't allow stacking of 2 gang bonuses to yield).

You can get a 10% mining foreman bonus, then up tp 10% cycle time reduction from the link, both of which I think are increased to 15% with the mindlink implant. So whether it's worth it depends on how many you're ganged with vs what ship you are / could be in I guess.



The link is also affected by squadron command skills, so with a mindlink you can get 21% or even 22.5% bonus on your gang's cycle times.

Annoyingly though, the mindlink implant still doesn't deliver the yield bonus it's supposed to to the owner's ship - very irritating as it takes up the slot that could otherwise have a 5% mining implant in!

Kara Marsk
untaught
Ka-Tet
Posted - 2006.09.15 19:10:00 - [18]
 

If it do work as the ice one. (lowers the time) then why is it still on the knows isues list?


 

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