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Natalcya Katla
Naqam
Posted - 2006.10.27 21:05:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Dejhon Vanxler

You mean the British Empire in space?Very Happy Actually having the Fed go along the lines of the way Brittan did 1860-1910 would be interesting. Contree to popular belief Brittan was quite democratic for her time, and it wouldn’t be hard to draw parallels between the Federation and the British Empire and have the Federation take a more Imperialistic line, especially given her position in Eve, with hostil forces on her borders, and the need to expand to safe guard agenst them.


Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

CCP Abraxas

Posted - 2006.10.27 23:52:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Natalcya Katla
I want to see [British colonialism in space]


Is it that easy, though? Don't forget that since the Federation has only a fairly loose grip on its people, and since communication is presumably both easier and faster than in the days of the old Earth Empires, it wouldn't take long for people back home to find out about the kinds of atrocities taking place in the outskirts of Federation space. I wouldn't mind writing stuff that takes place in this kind of system - I like degradation and broken lives - but it seems like a really precarious framework that's constantly in danger of being revealed to the masses and shaken by revolution.

For what it's worth, one of the upcoming stories involves an underground slave colony within the Federation. You won't be given much background on it until another specific story gets published, some time next year, but its raison d'étre is effectively to supply rich scumbags with money and certain ... other benefits.

Shintoko Akahoshi
Risen Angels
Posted - 2006.10.28 06:17:00 - [63]
 

I've written on this in other forums, but somehow I've managed to miss out on this one.

The main problem, as I see it, with pro-GalFed RP is that there is no real threat to the Gallente.

Let me explain:

The Amarr have various pro-Empire (and pro-Kingdom, in the case of the Khanids) RP opportunities, because they were built from the ground up as expansionist agressors. Great. That makes it relatively easy to support RP groups here - there's always something to be done, the Emperor (or head of house, or holder, etc) says so.

The Minmatar have the Amarr. If you want to RP a pro-Minnie combat pilot, you've got a ready-made conflict for you. Atrocities committed on all sides. Battle. Flaming death!

The Caldari have a weaker position, RP-wise. There's a few hawks rattling the sabers about Caldari Prime, and that works (for the most part) because the Caldari did lose their homeworld and in no bizzare world could you imagine them not being ****ed about it.

But the Gallente? What do they have to fight against? The Caldari hawks? There just aren't enough of them, and they aren't a real threat. The UDI? Where are they now? Foiritan seems to have done a good job keeping them tamped down. Intaki revolutionaries? They don't threaten the GalFed, either. Serpentis? They're probably the biggest threat to the GalFed, and they're an NPC faction. There was some noise about immigration protests a while ago, but that really doesn't affect pod pilots at all - not to mention, it's pretty much died out.

Now, I'm writing this on the eve of the Gallente presidential election, so things could change awfully drastically, awfully fast. That said, there currently aren't any threats to GarFed citizens as a whole. Nothing happening in the news to make pro-GalFed RPers grit their teeth and decide to fight. Nothing happening to Gallente pod pilots. The Federation is simply too much of a utopia, and there's nothing that's poised to destroy that utopia. I know what I speak of here - I attempted to RP a pro-GalFed terrorist for a time. I had some fights with a militant Caldari group, made some public statements about blowing up cargo ships during the protein delicacies arc. In the end, though, there wasn't enough of a threat to really support that RP on my part, and I moved on to other things (ironically, now, into a conservative Caldari RP corp Wink ).

Abraxas' slave colony story could be an interesting lead in to a threat - if that threat is big enough and grave enough to get people riled up.

Perhaps it will take factional warfare to really bring about a pro-GalFed RP combat movement (and I think that - the combat movement - is what we're really talking about, here. Perhaps when system sovereignties start to change, and Gallente characters start to see the borders of their Federation shrinking down, things will change. That might be threat enough to get the ball rolling again.

Becca Scar
Posted - 2006.10.28 06:36:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: SpaceDrake Taleweaver

Blaque doesn't go quite that far, I think.


The afore mentioned tyrant didn't go that far in one fell swoop, he did it in small steps so that no one noticed what he was doing until it was to late. But yes i think your right about blaque not going that far, Eve is a faimly game but we could see a PG13 version of the Holocaust.


Originally by: SpaceDrake Taleweaver
I've always tried to portray them as being motivated far more by actual love of country than by Facist lust-for-power.


I think the SS did what they did out of what they thought was patriotism too.

Jalia Kovac
Placid Reborn
Posted - 2006.10.28 08:53:00 - [65]
 

I'm disappointed in the state of affairs as well. We were involved the Vremaja Idama arc that got pulled.

Subsequent to that, I was interviewed by a member of the RP staff for purposes unknown. The focus of that interview returned several times to the question of whether Placid Reborn was pro-Federation or not. I replied that for the moment we were, but things could change given certain events. This was repeated later and as soon as it appeared clear that our current alignment was towards the Federation, the interviewer appeared to lose all interest.

Nothing from that conversation ever made it anywhere that I can tell, nor was I ever given an explanation as to the purpose.

We keep trying to give Intaki role-playing an edge that isn't a straightforward separatist deal. It just feels like we're often treading water without having too many interesting events in the overall scheme of things to hang our hats on.

I really hope that Gallente (and Intaki) events and politics are brought back into the spotlight. I can only assume that things will heat up after the election result and the introduction of factional warfare.

Jalia Kovac
Placid Reborn
Posted - 2006.10.28 08:55:00 - [66]
 

Oh, and on that note...

I'd really like to know to what extent we will be able to choose factional allegiance. If Intaki have only the option of Caldari or Gallente, then that is going to be poor. Having the options of the Syndicate AND Mordu's Legion would be significantly more interesting. Can any CCP staff comment on this?

Dejhon Vanxler
Gallente
Lutin Group
Posted - 2006.10.28 11:18:00 - [67]
 

Edited by: Dejhon Vanxler on 28/10/2006 11:18:35
Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Originally by: Natalcya Katla
I want to see [British colonialism in space]


Is it that easy, though? Don't forget that since the Federation has only a fairly loose grip on its people, and since communication is presumably both easier and faster than in the days of the old Earth Empires, it wouldn't take long for people back home to find out about the kinds of atrocities taking place in the outskirts of Federation space. I wouldn't mind writing stuff that takes place in this kind of system - I like degradation and broken lives - but it seems like a really precarious framework that's constantly in danger of being revealed to the masses and shaken by revolution.

For what it's worth, one of the upcoming stories involves an underground slave colony within the Federation. You won't be given much background on it until another specific story gets published, some time next year, but its raison d'étre is effectively to supply rich scumbags with money and certain ... other benefits.


Your quite right, for one Brittan could expand as she did because the Royal Navy did quite literally rule the waves. The End of the First Empire with Napoleons defeat at Waterloo removed the French, the next biggest power, as a threat, leaving Brittan to focus on Imperial expansion. Also the Royal navy was now a large, experienced and we led force. For the Federation the opposite is true and it would require a massive naval building and training program to provide the military power to large scale expansion.

Added to that the almost religious feeing that it was ‘Gods will to make the world England’, with a good deal of nationalism, some of the more unpleasant realities of imperialism were overlooked as ‘necessary’. As you say, in the Federation ATM, many of these factors don’t exist. In this case the Federation could look to the Liberal idea held in Brittan at the time of ‘Empire threw trade with equals’, holding that Britain should be at the fore front of creating a brotherhood of nations joined by trade. Given the latest news reports, this may be the way the Federation is headed Very Happy

Natalcya Katla
Naqam
Posted - 2006.10.29 01:07:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Is it that easy, though?


It's actually fairly easy, I'd say. The trick to make it work is to not make it a closely guarded secret among the select few, but rather make it into something that everybody knows if pressed on the issue, but that few people talk about. I'll try to outline how one could make this system work, in theory:


- Don't go overboard in the "atrocity" department:

We are not talking about holocaust-esque scenarioes in the colonies. We're not talking about ethnic cleansing or mass murder or violent oppression through the use of brute force. We're not talking about massive starvation or bio-engineered epidemics. And we're not talking about slavery, not technically at least.

We're talking about the exploitation of labor force. We're talking about overworking, we're talking about underpayment, we're talking about cutting corners in regards to workplace security. And we're talking about more or less willingly signed, legally binding contracts that obligate a person to work for a given employer for so and so many years.

That's a pretty ****ty way to live. But it won't necessarily raise eyebrows on a planetary scale among the people living in a system 15 jumps away. It's unlikely to cause massive revolts among people in the core systems, or great political upheaval. Maybe it might provoke a demonstration every now and then. And a couple of interest or lobbying groups. Nothing the system can't survive.


- Presentation and perspective:

Which scenario is less appealing to the average citizen: Heaps of fresh immigrants and other unemployed people signing unfavorable contracts and being shipped off to faraway places where they work long hours under poor conditions for little pay - but still working, and still getting paid.....or have that same group of people just growing and growing, heaping up by the hundreds or thousands in a steadily spreading ghetto or even slum in the very same city that said average citizen is living in him- or herself - most of them perpetually unemployed, perpetually on the brink of existence, perpetually desperate and (given the lenient gun laws in the Federation) very easily armed? Most citizens, I believe, would prefer the option that keeps themselves safer, telling themselves it is also the scenario that provides the best opportunity of the two for those less fortunate than themselves. And to be fair, they wouldn't be entirely incorrect.


- Don't restrict the flow of information to the people - bombard them with more:

Some hot-shot reporter makes a story about the horrid working and living conditions of contract laborers (or people in general) in some far-off system somewhere? Hire in a few other reporters to present a different and sunnier side of colony life, or better yet, keep the media's attention focused on bigger and more spectacular news and scandals. People may feel sorry for the poor *******s barely making a living working 15 hour days half a cluster away, but they'll probably feel equally or more strongly about the gangland massacre downtown, or the Amarr slaver caught smuggling slaves through their own system, or another naval capital ship being captured by the Serpentis, or a Senator caught in a scandalous act with his secretary, or a Caldari naval exercise three systems away, or the reunion of their favorite band, or Kaleigh Doyle being asked to be the hostess of this autumn's fashion show. Wink

If you don't give people time to digest the news they're given, most of them won't find the time to react to it, either.


- Cut losses, rebuild:

If some colony scandal gets so big it's impossible to put it down or drown it out, do what's necessary. Fire some managers, pay compensations, institute reforms, and put this through a whole lot of red tape that eventually lets you file the incident away and continue as before. People will think justice has been done, and they'll forget about the whole thing soon enough.

Maldon Perriera
Posted - 2006.10.29 07:26:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller
Hmm. Am I correct in assuming that there ARE some folks out there who would like to be very much pro-Fed, but simply feel as though they lack a framework for it?

If true, I think I can go something of a ways to fixing that...


YES!!! Please evemail me if you are still looking for ways to do this!

Charles Tyshalle
Gallente
Posted - 2006.10.30 19:32:00 - [70]
 

Foiritan wins the election. Is this a good thing or a bad thing for Fed RP?

Victor Valka
Caldari
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2006.10.30 19:48:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Charles Tyshalle
Foiritan wins the election. Is this a good thing or a bad thing for Fed RP?


Well.

I wish Blaque had won. I feel that it would have given the current RPs, both Gallente and otherwise some new and different to work with.

But all is well that ends well. Any new material to work with is better then none.

My two ISK, anyways.

Monty Tomasi
Phoenix Wing
Alektorophobia
Posted - 2006.10.31 13:21:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Is it that easy, though? Don't forget that since the Federation has only a fairly loose grip on its people, and since communication is presumably both easier and faster than in the days of the old Earth Empires, it wouldn't take long for people back home to find out about the kinds of atrocities taking place in the outskirts of Federation space.


As Natalcya Katla has pointed out, it comes down to who controls the media. Spin doctors is actually a very effective means to control what kind of information gets to the general public. Day-time soaps, fashion, people getting obsessed with the latest fads and fashions can be used to distract people from how horrible some things are happening in the Federation.

People don't want meaning in their lives, being shallow is actually quite a nice (if self-deceiving) way to live. It certainly makes buying shoes and clothes made in sweat shops off-world a lot easier.

If the media organisations are controlled by a select few industry heavy-weights that have links to the Senate or other government body - they would have a vested interest in keeping the public ignorant about a number of things. Or at least to cast the 'facts' in such a light as not to make them big enough to start a revolt over.

Sure the gutter-rags and conspiracy newsfeeds will be chock full of information about 'the thing are really happening out there, that they don't want you to know about'. But if these sources of news are shown to contain misleading or even false information occasionally then people are more inclined to disbelieve such news. After all - if it was true then something would have to be done about it.

The attitude of "well it's happening to another colony and if they were as civilized as us it positively wouldn't have happened" could work quite well in the Federation. Throw in some Federalist stiff upper lip, chin-up and some tally-hos and you could find that the people of the Federation are willing to soldier on despite how bad things are because as Winston Churchil put it: "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."

Monty Tomasi
Phoenix Wing
Alektorophobia
Posted - 2006.10.31 13:30:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Dejhon Vanxler

You mean the British Empire in space?Very Happy Actually having the Fed go along the lines of the way Brittan did 1860-1910 would be interesting. Contree to popular belief Brittan was quite democratic for her time, and it wouldn’t be hard to draw parallels between the Federation and the British Empire and have the Federation take a more Imperialistic line, especially given her position in Eve, with hostil forces on her borders, and the need to expand to safe guard agenst them.


By the way, I forgot to say in my last posting that I really like this idea. It'll require a little adaptation to work in Eve - but it's brilliant enough to make me come back to Eve and have another go at pro-Federation RP Cool

William Blair
Posted - 2006.11.05 00:21:00 - [74]
 

Quite Honestly, what I see as a viable RP for Gallente would be their beginging to work with the Matari on Anti Slavery operations against the Ammar. ore specificly the Khanid where more and more Khanid corps are using Gallente as slaves. That would give the Gallente a focus and an axe to grind so to speak right there. A Matari/Gallente Alliance against the Khanid/Caldari alliance. Honestly, given the friction between Gallente and Caldari it would not be unfeasible.

Agustus Caesar
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2006.11.12 05:15:00 - [75]
 

Federation RPers rarely have to go a forum debate alone; the number of pro-fed RPers is on the rise, thanks in part due to the efforts of (strangely enough) Amarrian rpers to boost faction RPing via sermons, and Matari RPers can usually be counted on to back up the Feds. Granted the number of Federation RP corps is the smallest of the 4 factions, the number of part time RPers (people in Non-RP corps who RP on the forums) is a respectible amount; so need to worry about being out numbered; we got your back!

-Caesar

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2006.11.13 01:24:00 - [76]
 

You don't have to be Federation loyalists to RP within the gallente setting you know.

SpaceDrake Taleweaver
Posted - 2006.11.13 06:55:00 - [77]
 

Part of me IS regretting giving up the Andre Ricard character, even though he really was too inflexible to be any fun to play. Still, with some of the motion from CCP as of late (as well as the AWESOME hooks Archbishop and some of the other Amarrian RPers have been giving) I do think the situation is assisted some.

I remain curious as to whether or not Foiritain really stays in office.

Cyrus Graham
Caldari
Posted - 2006.11.15 20:20:00 - [78]
 

Isn't the lack of national unity in the federation a cause in and of itself? Try playing a patriotic extremist who sees the federation as divided and vulnerable. A person who is willing to go to great lengths to give the federation a reason to unite. I see a conspiracy of individuals trying to engineer tragedies and running a political propaganda machine to try to blame external forces in order to convince the Gallente people that they need to band together to fight a common threat.

Hell, I'd consider making an alt for that myself. It sounds like a lot of fun.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2006.11.20 13:38:00 - [79]
 

count myxx in as pro federation, though she is a loner for the most part, I'm around but havent rp'd much.

Horoc'h Ryydell
Gallente
Midnight Enterprises
Midnight Space Syndicate
Posted - 2006.11.20 14:19:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Horoc''h Ryydell on 20/11/2006 14:25:25
Gallente RP or Federation RP has many options, that's what i think at least. The problem I see in this thread is it focussing too much on pure politics though.

Some ideas:
- Entertainment Business targetting other Empires with the Federation clearly in the background
** Reporters that dig a little too deep
** Corps bringing entertainment that is not wanted
** Entertainment Business that is on the background an attempt to bring Democracy (yeah... politics after all :p)
** Peacekeeping forces in other empires... whether they want it or not (UN like... open for all, but really something for a Gallente to come up with)
- Corps working with other Factions
** Businesses that seem to be simple Pro-Gallente corps, but working for an other case (would be a big surprise if we find out the Phoenix Wing is secretely funded by Sansha, no isn't it)
** Legal divisions of Illegal factions (Sin Feinn like) in the Federation. Traders that trade a little more then building blocks alone

A happy democracy as the Federation should not be about politics, it never is, except for small groups of fanatics... its about personal stuff. Think a bit more out of the box and invest time in making it work ;-)

[[yeah, I know, I could do better myself... my RP is only in a starting phase tbh, some parts are 'released' to the public though. RP-ing bureaucracy is a lot of work you know ;-)]]

edit: Federation / Gallente RP is ofcourse a difference...

Riku Suzuki
Caldari
Posted - 2006.11.22 15:03:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Horoc'h Ryydell
Edited by: Horoc''h Ryydell on 20/11/2006 14:25:25
Gallente RP or Federation RP has many options, that's what i think at least. The problem I see in this thread is it focussing too much on pure politics though.

Some ideas:
- Entertainment Business targetting other Empires with the Federation clearly in the background
** Reporters that dig a little too deep
** Corps bringing entertainment that is not wanted
** Entertainment Business that is on the background an attempt to bring Democracy (yeah... politics after all :p)
** Peacekeeping forces in other empires... whether they want it or not (UN like... open for all, but really something for a Gallente to come up with)
- Corps working with other Factions
** Businesses that seem to be simple Pro-Gallente corps, but working for an other case (would be a big surprise if we find out the Phoenix Wing is secretely funded by Sansha, no isn't it)
** Legal divisions of Illegal factions (Sin Feinn like) in the Federation. Traders that trade a little more then building blocks alone

A happy democracy as the Federation should not be about politics, it never is, except for small groups of fanatics... its about personal stuff. Think a bit more out of the box and invest time in making it work ;-)

[[yeah, I know, I could do better myself... my RP is only in a starting phase tbh, some parts are 'released' to the public though. RP-ing bureaucracy is a lot of work you know ;-)]]

edit: Federation / Gallente RP is ofcourse a difference...


Yes, there are *many* options available to someone who wants to pursue an interesting RP angle as a Gallente. The issue is that these options are generally not the kind of options that a large group of people can easily rally around, as is the case with the Matari and Amarrian RP corps. The Matari and Amarrians have an off-the-shelf RP conflict handed to them, all shiny and shrink-wrapped ... of course their challenge is keeping that fresh, but it's a very solid foundation for an RP that can attract a group of players. Even the Caldari have an easier go at it than the Gallente, because they have the corporatist social organization and the revanchist angle to play as well. There isn't any clear-cut "angle" handed to the Gallente that can unify them as RPers around a single goal, and that's the main reason why there hasn't been succesful *Federation* roleplay, for the most part, that compares with what is seen for other racial RPs.

So there's quite a lot of room for very interesting *personal* roleplays for Gallente characters, but much less ability to attract a lot of people to one core idea that reflects the race. As a result, Gallente RP remains small and scattered.

Redpants
Gallente
Dark Star LTD
Posted - 2006.11.24 04:00:00 - [82]
 

The last two posts are good, the first for fresh ideas in Gallente RP, and the second for summing up again the Gallente RP problems.

The Gallente and Caldari need a Providence/Catch region scenerio. I know that it will take the players to create such a similar regional conflict, and the Providence pipe helps geographicly.

When I was playing EVE before during Cold War I played Gallente also but didn't get into RP because I didn't feel my race really supported it, (or if EVE really was a RP MMO) compared to the Amarr and Minmatars who's cause is obvious.

Creating this new character I decided to play Gallente again, but it was the lack of the obvious stereotype in Gallente that made me want to try RP this time around. I siezed upon the inner divisions within the Federation instead of the sweeping brush stroke of Liberty and intoxication etc. So yes, playing a Blaque supporter does as of now offer me more than the usual RP fare in Gallente. Trying to justify the support as Blaque so clearly goes against the typical Gallente grain hasn't been so easy without just becoming a bigot and hating everybody.

To just make the Gallente like the old British empire would fit them nicely in with a known role but I'm not sure if that's the easy answer. The Gallente are a hybrid of other governments past and present and shares many of their respective problems.

We shouldn't need some racial wide cause to be able to RP either. When you play a druid in D&D do you neccesarily have a cause? No, because just being your individual person with their character traits is enough. This is the way many non-associated (with a corp) RP Gallente currently do it. They're all out there doing their own thing even if they're not a member of a movement. Harnessing these players under one banner would make for better conflict and perhaps be easier if as a race we had an axe to grind.

Maybe we need a total upheaval of our way of life.

I don't know, going by the forums alone for RP the Gallente's biggest enemy seems to be other Gallente, not Caldari or Amarr. Maybe that's not a bad thing. I see great divisions in the Federation that can be siezed upon by RPers, but creating corporations and alliances around them to affect the in game is another thing.

Jelalinde Frieschte
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.11.24 19:11:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Redpants
I don't know, going by the forums alone for RP the Gallente's biggest enemy seems to be other Gallente, not Caldari or Amarr. Maybe that's not a bad thing. I see great divisions in the Federation that can be siezed upon by RPers, but creating corporations and alliances around them to affect the in game is another thing.

This is something that rather sets the Gallente apart from the other empires, isn't it - the presence of inter-bloodline conflict, as we've seen exemplified by the Intaki separatist movement? There isn't really much room in the current political environment for the Civire to hate on the Deteis, the Brutors to squabble with the Sebeistor, or the Ni-Kunni to do much but acquiesce to the will of their Amarr masters, but tensions between the Gallente and the Intaki are strong and seem to have made for some fine RP.

Has there been much established about the Jin-Mei yet, other than a couple of references to their feudal culture and caste system? Exploring their culture, how they've been affected by their membership of the Federation and how they are in turn affecting the social fabric of the Federation, could be another issue to RP over - whether that's something as simple as a new Jin-Mei pilot trying to address Gallente misconceptions about his native culture, or something as ambitious as an ascendant Jin-Mei crime syndicate trying to expand beyond Lirsautton and into the Federation as a whole.

Ly'sol
Caldari
Posted - 2006.11.30 19:10:00 - [84]
 

Like I said before...

The Gallente RPers need to take the role of political leaders....trying to rally for a war on (insert here).

So maybe we just need to get some mud to sling at each other. Someone says gallente #1 is sexually inept. #1 says #2 enjoys the company of Slaver hounds in the wrong sense.

It doesnt matter if it is true or not. Just need something to fight over.

#1 is an anti-slaver...so #2 will try and bilittle #1 by saying he has slave girls himself and people should join #3 or #2.

Plus i get the whole idea that the Federation is the epitomy of the heavy foot of goverment standing in everyones lives. They say they are for liberty and freedom because it sounds good. But really its about social order and control. The goverment in quiet litteraly in every aspect of your lives from health care to the day you die. Forms forms forms and laws are ment to be safty nets incase you should fail.

I draw that conclusion based on how the Cadari are set to be as the ultimate extreme of Capitalism where by your own effort you sink or swim. You dont have insurances for your life you will have no safty net. Freedom to do just about anything to prosper and yet if you fail...you go down in flames.

Should a Gallente player use the route of "We are better than you because we are Free." Best source material i can provide is probally the TV series Firefly and movie Serenity in how the Alliance is and how the citizens of the alliance acts towards indiviuals who dont share thier view of what "freedom" is as in everyone is free so long everyone remains controled.


Nachshon
Caldari
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2006.12.14 01:40:00 - [85]
 

Personally, it would have been more fun for Blaque to have won the election rather than Foritran. Better yet, put the UNats back in power.

Me, I'm more interested in setting up the Amarr and the Minmatar to actually go to war, the Caldari send their fleet into the Empire to defend it... then the Caldari backstab their 'allies' and turn the Empire into a Caldari colony. They give all the slaves to the Minmatar, thus averting any attempt by the Minmatar to conquer parts of the Empire.

shirofukuro
Posted - 2006.12.14 03:05:00 - [86]
 

Well, I am just a newb, but I thought the most compelling reason to play Gallente was to save the Universe from the Evil Expansionist Fundamentalist Scourge. IMHO, the best reason for Gallente and Cald to get together would be to fight against the mutual foe that threatens to burn, ****, and enslave them all.

What's more threatening to a Freedom Fighter than an evil fundamentalist regime?

If I do get into RP, I'll definitely be going the Crusader Against Tyranny angle, and work to extirpate the scourge from the Universe.

LC Sulla
Caldari
House Mekarae
Posted - 2006.12.14 09:40:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: LC Sulla on 14/12/2006 09:41:07
I think there is a socialogical aspect to RP too. We like to explore a differing persona than our real lives. Lets look at the main factions.

Minmatar - Newly federated ex-slaves. Freedom fighters.
Amarr - Conservative religious zealotry vs. moderate religious reform.
Caldari - Super mega-corp capitalism and militarism.
Gallente - effective western styled democracy/freedom/capitalism.


Gallente are just more modern versions of our world today. Caldari are what we seem to be moving towards... meh...
BUT
Minmatar and Amarr are something fairly different from our real world persona's. More appeal from an RP perspective because you can 'play' something completely different from who you really are. I'm not religious in the real world but playing an Amarrian religious reformer has some some appeal.

My take on it anyway Smile.

Souvera Corvus
THE PAROXYSM
Session Changes
Posted - 2006.12.20 04:50:00 - [88]
 

I'd be interested in something a little more pro-fed, but as a month old player I'm having a hard time of it referencing sources in order to contstruct a relevant bio and motivation. Lots of bits and pieces but nothing really comprehensive as a solid history.

As an Intaki, I can see some opportunities here.

Could someone point me in the direction of a cohesive body of material?

Alex maximillian
Posted - 2006.12.21 09:17:00 - [89]
 

see this

gallente=federation
amarr=empire
minmatar=(sorry dont remeber)
caldari=state
jovians=completly unknown

what do jovians are they comunists???????????????????????????????????????????????

Maxwell Grey
Posted - 2006.12.22 22:16:00 - [90]
 

A Spark
Here is a spark to ingnite the flames of war. Take the Intaki seperatists as a threat. They are causing instablility in the federation by trying to break free. If this happens who will be the next to do so? What happened to the Caldari when they did this. All you Gallente loyalists looking for RP should caome together and operate a premptive strike agaisnt the rising Intaki insurgency. Evemail me I'd love to help ;)


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