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Aladari Selhura
Caldari
Star League Strana Mechty
Posted - 2006.05.24 16:00:00 - [91]
 

OK, so someone ( ones ) does not like Ethans character, managment skills, avatar,yadayadayada, so what, THIS IS A GAME, this is not real life. I am quite new to eve, i entered in THEMM with character on TRIAL acount, and i am quite solo pilot, i do what i want where i wan't it, how i wan't it, and i have my own set of rules that are not quite diverse from generals rule of both ASCN and THEMM. ( altho i dont mind swithching to the shadowy aspect of game from time to time ) YARRRR!!

Since i am in corp that is based in certain part of universe where laws are maked by stronger pilot ( corporation ), i admit that some of the THEMM corp. policy's can be demanding IF YOURE ONLY THINGKING HOW TO GREASE YOUR WALLET, I hold alegiance to corporation, my fellow corpmates, then my personal checkbook.not to the person ( person's ) who run the corporation. MY personal interest is to make THEMM stronger, bigger, proactive corporation. To do that personal sacrifice is required.There are seted rules, if you dont like them do not join corp.When i was contacted by Ethan about joining, i acepted promptly, and on that same day i spendt nearly 6 hours on net, gathering informations about THEMM, ASCN, BoB, and the rest of mayor/minor corporations. Only after i digested those info i have decided I will stay in corporation. I have noted that those people that have bad blood between themself and Ethan are mature adult persons ( but from their posting's, pestings and mayor fuss they are making they does not sound mature nor adult )Rolling Eyes
I am proud to be member of The Merchant Marines, I am proud with Ethan's gudance of this corp, and i am proud of behaviour of THEMM as unitary corporation, regardles of possible exeptions.
Aladari Selhura
By my nature i am quite headstrong, agressive, demanding, and extreamly persistent person, so basicaly game's are my blowout fuse, becouse i would drive insane all my real life asociates, and in my line of work that is not welcomed.
RL Croatian Military IO-TU active reserve( dont expect for me to explain, not alowed ) 29 year's.
And please remember all involved or soon to be involved in this petty squable
THIS IS A GAME Cool

Napolie
Gallente
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
Posted - 2006.05.24 16:04:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Odinatoo
Originally by: Ethan Kel
Edited by: Ethan Kel on 23/05/2006 19:08:46
I have also been accused of demanding absolute rule. Well I do have an application in at ďThe Home for Retired DespotsĒ aside from that and since this is not medieval Europe I doubt I could get away with ďAbsolute RuleĒ Iíd sure be willing to try though! LOL

...

What do I offer as proof?

Well one need only look at the size of The Merchant marines now. Itís membership is actually about 120 actives ( other numbers are for historical reasons ) and see that there must be something to this CEO to be able to raise a corp. from having been griefed to the point of extinction to a thriving , prospering community of players.

Ethan Kel


To be in THEMM, you need to be a fanboi. You need to cheer the name Ethan Kel and you will do well. You need to agree with all that he has said. If not, you'll will see another round of lunatical ranting and raving in corp chat/evemail against YOU. Nothing wrong with that if you are into that kind of thing.

I also heard of a recent incident where instead of resolving issues in a diplomatic manner when things go wrong with a corpie, he choosed to blow up the 'shocked' corpie's ship, pod him, then state that he would refund the isks upon a PUBLIC apology. When the corpie refused, he went to Cyvok, round up a bunch of ASCN and declared him KOS. Wonderful resolution. He professes respect among corp members and yet he exempts himself from it.

About the 120 man corp? It was done through merger of other corps using the ASCN name and access to 0.0 as bait / sweetener. So a 120 man corp is not proof of innocence. In the ASCN vs. Tribal Souls war, I heard he hides out in BZ-0GW and continued mining with his bunch of mining slaves. Said the fight belongs to Sha K and other corps since they are getting the stations in Paragon Soul. Still in the sytem these days in two hulks I heard ...

So all power to you if this is your chosen leader and alliance mate (sniker).




This merger they could merge with alot of different 0.0 corps? We dident force them, we looked like a bunch of nice ppl who they could like to merge with!
And btw it was no "corps" it was corp

Where I come from its called mature not "fanboi"

plz post with your main?

And get over this, plz if you think THEMM was such a bad
corp why do you have hard to let go of it then?

(i tought of you as a great guy from the start but then... Well lets just say you did something stupid)

-Napolie, Former friend of Odinatoo (Not the real name but apparantly he wishes to remain anonymous)



Arkflyer
Gallente
ARK-CORP
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2006.05.24 17:35:00 - [93]
 

Greetings:
It seems that there is an issue about this thread. 1St like to make this clear that Arkc was never threatened or contacted by leaders of AF and BOB. Our decision was not based on fear of war or hostility from AF or BOB. we have no issue with any of the alliances and have some friends in both. This was a decision made by me through contacts that i have from both alliances.
DD is currently in one of Orion alliance corps so I do not see the reason for different posts.

Regards

Tadamitsu
Caldari
Solar Storm
Sev3rance
Posted - 2006.05.24 18:32:00 - [94]
 

lol

well you where not on my don't hire list, but let me think about it... yeah I can fit you in.

its a big universe run along.

Dir of Personnel Twisted Evil

Arkflyer
Gallente
ARK-CORP
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2006.05.24 19:12:00 - [95]
 

well tad any time :)
also give my regards to steel pcgammer and conchita :)


Fortior
Caldari
STK Scientific
Black-Out
Posted - 2006.05.24 20:00:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Arkflyer
Greetings:
It seems that there is an issue about this thread. 1St like to make this clear that Arkc was never threatened or contacted by leaders of AF and BOB. Our decision was not based on fear of war or hostility from AF or BOB. we have no issue with any of the alliances and have some friends in both. This was a decision made by me through contacts that i have from both alliances.
DD is currently in one of Orion alliance corps so I do not see the reason for different posts.

Regards


Well, if there's any sanity in the world, that should just about have killed this thread Laughing

So LeBob & Co. were kicked out because they were just deemed untrustworthy by ASCN and/or BOB, not because they upset two of the bigger playerblocks by 'sticking it to the Man' or the like? What a shocking surprise.

/me returns to his exam studying.

Neyland
Caldari
The Artisan Fund Company
Posted - 2006.05.24 20:25:00 - [97]
 

I donít know I guess LeBob and I are losing our minds or something Arkflyer because thatís not what you told us in two different conversations. If you kicked me due to what these contacts in both corps said about me, Iíd love to know exactly how Sixpack, LeBob, Kuariís husband, and myself managed to get such a bad rep if weíve never done anything to anyone nor even know anyone other than the handful of people from TheMM? The only person Iím aware of that has any issues with me is Ethan and thatís because Iím associated with someone he doesnít like or because I donít agree with his leadership style.

FWIW, none of us have alts. Heck, with my play schedule I'm still doing level 1 missions. Who has time for an alt?

And now we come to the end... Upon some internal reflection, I have chosen to take many people's advice here and simply move on... regardless if Ethan can or not. A poster noted that all this does is fan the flames and youíre probably right. This whole situation is absurd.

I have allowed Ethan and his actions to become more important to me than is necessary. For over five years our community has focused on enjoying online games as mechanisms for relaxation. No longer am I going to allow one person to drag me into meaningless online drama that wastes time, effort, and creates stress. To that end, I'm simply going to move to another area of the game. If another player chooses to believe Ethan's fabrications then that's their business and I simply won't game with you. In the future if it becomes such an issue where the game itself becomes no longer enjoyable, I'll drop my account. There are plenty of other online offerings that have an enjoyable gaming experience.

I would like to express my sincere gratitude to the Eve players that came here and offered meaningful advice and opinions. You helped remind me of what our core values are and why they are so important. I apologize for having wasted your time on something so truly trivial.

Lord Spidey
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.05.24 20:36:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Neyland
I donít know I guess LeBob and I are losing our minds or something Arkflyer because thatís not what you told us in two different conversations. If you kicked me due to what these contacts in both corps said about me, Iíd love to know exactly how Sixpack, LeBob, Kuariís husband, and myself managed to get such a bad rep if weíve never done anything to anyone nor even know anyone other than the handful of people from TheMM?



You should really post chat logs of what Ark told you (unless you were on ts) as that would lend some credibility to your arguments. Convo me if you need help doing it as im more than happy to help keep this drama filled thread going. Work ftl

Cwixlaxle
Caldari
Lonestar Distribution Inc.
Posted - 2006.05.24 21:27:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Neyland
Edited by: Neyland on 24/05/2006 02:32:38
Edited by: Neyland on 24/05/2006 02:31:33
Ethan,

Nothing happened as you described and yet another reason why we didn't want to stay with your group.

  • You continued to try to tell me Devildog was trying to destroy TheMM, yet repeatedly our members were invited to witness conversations most times they had no idea why they were there, but in every case it was your poor attitude that was the problem.

  • More people didn't leave because this whole situation was contained within the officers and those of use who kept getting dragged into it. No one tried to split the corp, they simply left and asked us if we wanted to go with them. I personally was contacted by members of TheMM who I didn't know wondering why we left. My reply was the same as here... We prefer a different style of leadership.

  • No one stole anything from you or your corp.

  • No one griefed you or your corp.

  • No one wrecked you or your corp.




  • As I saw the whole thing transpire, and from my observations what I saw IMO was the right thing to do.

    A number of players (directors and others) decided that they didn't like one person for one reason or another and decided to remove the thorn in their collective arses. Ethan stepped in and said no just like any good CEO would have. Why should one have to suffer just because they don't have the same personality as another. They didn't like it and the suffering began.

    I remember that there was one guy, can't remember his name, that kept trying to incite a flame in the corp channel and generally causing a disruption. I confronted him about it asking him to stop or leave because he was starting to cause havoc within the corp. But alas I didn't have any rights to do anything about it. Words were exchanged and I logged for the evening.

    For Neyland:

    You stated that no one griefed THEMM. That is incorrect. Shortly after DevilDog and his crew left there was a war declared on THEMM. (DevilDog's nub corp) This lasted for about 2 weeks. Then the war was retracted and another war was declared by a corp that included a members of those that left. (DevilDog and crew were said members.) Quite a few newer players lost alot of isk/ships/gear due to these wars.

    As for wrecking/destroying a corp, I believe they succeded to an extent. We lost alot of members after the wars started happening simply because they didn't have the isk, and decided to leave the corp to recoup what they had lost. I know of one former member that left the game because of this mess.

    I have said it many times, Ethan did the right thing in this case. It dosen't matter if you or anyone don't agree with what was done, Ethan is the CEO of THEMM, and because of that title he makes the final call on THEMM affairs just like Cyvok when it comes to ASCN.

    I see it like this: IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE DECISION, YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS: GET OUT OR DEAL WITH IT. It has nothing to do with being a "lamb" (as quoted by DevilDog and crew).

    Lob Loblaw
    Gallente
    Doomheim
    Posted - 2006.05.24 21:44:00 - [100]
     

    Edited by: Lob Loblaw on 24/05/2006 21:49:17
    See post below. Edited because it was a duplicate.

    Lob Loblaw
    Gallente
    Doomheim
    Posted - 2006.05.24 21:48:00 - [101]
     

    Originally by: Lord Spidey
    Originally by: Neyland
    I donít know I guess LeBob and I are losing our minds or something Arkflyer because thatís not what you told us in two different conversations. If you kicked me due to what these contacts in both corps said about me, Iíd love to know exactly how Sixpack, LeBob, Kuariís husband, and myself managed to get such a bad rep if weíve never done anything to anyone nor even know anyone other than the handful of people from TheMM?



    You should really post chat logs of what Ark told you (unless you were on ts) as that would lend some credibility to your arguments. Convo me if you need help doing it as im more than happy to help keep this drama filled thread going. Work ftl


    I did post a chat log. It was either ignored or pronounced to be fake. Here it is again, in its entirety.




    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    Channel ID: 2107174164
    Channel Name: UnitedForces
    Listener: LeBob
    Session started: 2006.05.15 19:43:43
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    [ 2006.05.15 19:43:47 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD: United Forces.<br><br><font color="#ff0000ff">Known KOS:<br></font><br><font color="#ff0000ff">[VETO] Veto.<br>[WREAK] Br0ken Rudder<br>[OGBP] Original Black Plague<br>[SERK] Serial Killers<br><PAYUS> Pirate Coalition</font>
    [ 2006.05.15 19:47:43 ] schawo > gang me plz
    [ 2006.05.15 19:52:00 ] LeBob > Arkflyer, could I ask why some of us folks who recently joined from VOFL have been kicked from ARK?
    [ 2006.05.15 19:55:12 ] Arkflyer > yes m8 i sent an explanation to DD
    [ 2006.05.15 19:55:37 ] Arkflyer > you were in AF bob black list m8 4 people contacted me
    [ 2006.05.15 19:56:26 ] LeBob > Really?
    [ 2006.05.15 19:56:57 ] LeBob > I never received an explanation from you or anyone
    [ 2006.05.15 19:57:23 ] Arkflyer > yes specialy if you and dd are from veterans of lib sorry m8
    [ 2006.05.15 19:58:04 ] Arkflyer > i was contacted by 2 ceos from AF and 1 frm BOB
    [ 2006.05.15 19:58:21 ] LeBob > Ok.


    And on that note, I'll see everyone around. I'll be in the ship with a large target painted on it. Not really, because there are no such things as blacklists on Eve.Laughing

    Angelus X
    Caldari
    NibbleTek
    Pandemic Legion
    Posted - 2006.05.24 22:07:00 - [102]
     

    I believe I might be on the ASCN black list.

    And i'm quite proud tbh you guys should be too! Very Happy

    Sku1ly
    Caldari
    Eve Innovative Technologies
    Posted - 2006.05.24 22:10:00 - [103]
     

    Havn't I podded you three times?

    Sixpak
    Caldari
    FW Inc
    Kith of Venal
    Posted - 2006.05.24 22:17:00 - [104]
     

    Originally by: Arkflyer
    Greetings:
    It seems that there is an issue about this thread. 1St like to make this clear that Arkc was never threatened or contacted by leaders of AF and BOB. Our decision was not based on fear of war or hostility from AF or BOB. we have no issue with any of the alliances and have some friends in both. This was a decision made by me through contacts that i have from both alliances.
    DD is currently in one of Orion alliance corps so I do not see the reason for different posts.

    Regards


    2006.05.16 05:47:45 ] Sixpak > hey there, is everything ok?
    [ 2006.05.16 05:47:54 ] Arkflyer > yes great
    [ 2006.05.16 05:47:59 ] Arkflyer > why ?
    [ 2006.05.16 05:48:09 ] Arkflyer > we have a war deck on us by slacker
    [ 2006.05.16 05:48:16 ] Arkflyer > nothing we cant handle
    [ 2006.05.16 05:48:48 ] Sixpak > well, I noticed I was removed from the corp, just wanted to make sure everything was ok?
    [ 2006.05.16 05:49:14 ] Arkflyer > yes oh sorry what happpened was i was contacted by 2 major allaince
    [ 2006.05.16 05:49:27 ] Arkflyer > and was told you are in their black list DD is
    [ 2006.05.16 05:49:33 ] Arkflyer > and his old corp m8
    [ 2006.05.16 05:49:37 ] Arkflyer > :(
    [ 2006.05.16 05:49:57 ] Arkflyer > if we would not have donr thins they were both war deced us
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:05 ] Arkflyer > slackers we can handle
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:06 ] Sixpak > ahh =(
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:13 ] Sixpak > i c
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:36 ] Arkflyer > yes nothing personal
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:41 ] Sixpak > well, im sorry we didnt get a chance to work together =(
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:43 ] Arkflyer > we can fight one but 2 we are toast
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:48 ] Arkflyer > me too
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:55 ] Arkflyer > got to run m8
    [ 2006.05.16 05:51:01 ] Sixpak > k, take care
    [ 2006.05.16 05:51:08 ] Arkflyer > there was a real explanation not for any specific reason
    [ 2006.05.16 05:51:12 ] Arkflyer > u too

    Neyland
    Caldari
    The Artisan Fund Company
    Posted - 2006.05.24 23:18:00 - [105]
     

    Cwixlaxle,

    Let me get this straight. 5 people war decd a 120 man corp for two weeks and paid for many of the ships they destroyed and you consider that griefing? Oh I must have a definition of griefing because it must be something very different in this game than in any other game I've ever played.

    Oh and might I add, the people here who have issues were a mere 2 weeks into the game. Only one of them participated in any PvP and even he didn't do any real damage in his newb frigate. All the damage was done by JD, Fonlander, Tofu, DD and Kil... and I would assume that the Corp has the email to verify that.

    Anyone have a good relocation suggestion? I really got to find some good movers!

    10 secs and counting to the GoToHeck system LOL.

    Munta Hunta
    Amarr
    Marines Of A New Dawn
    ANTHRAX DEATH
    Posted - 2006.05.25 01:11:00 - [106]
     

    Originally by: Odinatoo


    To be in THEMM, you need to be a fanboi. You need to cheer the name Ethan Kel and you will do well. You need to agree with all that he has said. If not, you'll will see another round of lunatical ranting and raving in corp chat/evemail against YOU. Nothing wrong with that if you are into that kind of thing.

    I also heard of a recent incident where instead of resolving issues in a diplomatic manner when things go wrong with a corpie, he choosed to blow up the 'shocked' corpie's ship, pod him, then state that he would refund the isks upon a PUBLIC apology. When the corpie refused, he went to Cyvok, round up a bunch of ASCN and declared him KOS. Wonderful resolution. He professes respect among corp members and yet he exempts himself from it.

    About the 120 man corp? It was done through merger of other corps using the ASCN name and access to 0.0 as bait / sweetener. So a 120 man corp is not proof of innocence. In the ASCN vs. Tribal Souls war, I heard he hides out in BZ-0GW and continued mining with his bunch of mining slaves. Said the fight belongs to Sha K and other corps since they are getting the stations in Paragon Soul. Still in the sytem these days in two hulks I heard ...

    So all power to you if this is your chosen leader and alliance mate (sniker).



    Well i thought i would never get involved in the seedy little posts of EVE-O, but here i am and here goes,

    I have to respond to this as i cant let this one pass without a comment(can i tarkus triskilion ?)
    OH, the shame the horror your name is out to an altShocked

    You, instead of helping with corp building ops decided to take isk making into your own hands, ninja mining selling ores and minerals and not giving to the corp funds whilst all around you your fellow corp mates was mining, ratting, and pvping there booty's off to try and make a name for them self's and the corp in 0.0

    Go look on the ASCN kill boards, look where the fighting was for THEMM, most in paragon soul, eso and fayth regions i dont see your name up there at all only getting killed, i am an industrialist and have very few skills as a pvp pilot, but in the face of adversity i jump into ships and go to WAR, check my kills in PS too.

    and where was you, still in 16P bustin roids making isk, after me asking you to join us on corp ops to on several ocasions, which! you constantly made excuses not to join in with.

    when you was caught with your pants down(so to speak) you went into the richeous mode declaring that it was a travesty that corpies felt that way, then went on a shooting spree trying to cap off corpies, instead of chatting and sorting it out

    that's why you got booted, that's why you was declared KOS


    so don't come on here playing the wounded soldier trying to get others who dont know the whole story to feel sorry or be on your side, IT DONT WASH WITH MEMad

    BO X
    Minmatar
    Confederation of Red Moon
    Red Moon Federation
    Posted - 2006.05.25 01:35:00 - [107]
     

    Edited by: BO X on 25/05/2006 01:38:03
    Well - I'd have to say that "Lob Loblaw" and his mates deserve to be on as many blacklists as possible imho.

    Sounds like they were leeching off the corp called "TheMM" and then when confronted about it - started shooting their own corp mates!!!

    And to think they try to come onto the forums to get sympathy because the CEO of the corp they abused "may" have advised another CEO that these people couldn't be trusted?

    Laughable...

    I'm sure that you 5 folks (in you little "group" as you call it) won't end up enjoying Eve at all, because most people like you will end up being on peoples blacklist for one thing or another.
    Your post here is just another invitation for you to be blacklisted by all those folks who prefer honesty, integrity and teamwork - over lies, deceit and slander!

    *edited - spelling 4tw*

    CPX 02
    Amarr
    Imperial Academy
    Posted - 2006.05.25 01:46:00 - [108]
     

    Edited by: CPX 02 on 25/05/2006 01:47:19

    CPX 02
    Amarr
    Imperial Academy
    Posted - 2006.05.25 01:47:00 - [109]
     

    Just for fun - I did up my own *fake* chat log.....

    Hope you all find some amusement in this.....



    2006.05.16 05:47:45 ] Sixpak > hey there, is everything ok?
    [ 2006.05.16 05:47:54 ] Arkflyer > yes great
    [ 2006.05.16 05:47:59 ] Arkflyer > why ?
    [ 2006.05.16 05:48:09 ] Arkflyer > we have a war deck on us by slacker
    [ 2006.05.16 05:48:16 ] Arkflyer > nothing we cant handle
    [ 2006.05.16 05:48:48 ] Sixpak > well, I noticed I was removed from the corp, just wanted to make sure everything was ok?
    [ 2006.05.16 05:49:14 ] Arkflyer > yes oh sorry - but you guys are jerks, so you had to go
    [ 2006.05.16 05:49:27 ] Arkflyer > you should be put on everyone's blacklist in my opinion
    [ 2006.05.16 05:49:33 ] Arkflyer > ....and all your mates too...
    [ 2006.05.16 05:49:37 ] Arkflyer > :(
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:06 ] Sixpak > ahh =(
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:13 ] Sixpak > i c
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:36 ] Arkflyer > yes - nothing worse then having a bunch of liars like you in a corp
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:41 ] Sixpak > well, im sorry we didnt get a chance to work together =(
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:43 ] Arkflyer > I'm not - now sod off
    [ 2006.05.16 05:50:55 ] Arkflyer > got to run
    [ 2006.05.16 05:51:01 ] Sixpak > k, well pity we didn't get to rip you off
    


    *Note: this chat log is fake, and only modified for everyones enjoyment and as a joke*
    * End disclaimer *
    Laughing

    Stalker McDeathkill
    Minmatar
    Brutor Tribe
    Posted - 2006.05.25 01:54:00 - [110]
     

    all i can say is..... HEADSHOT

    Nav3EVA
    Caldari
    Requiem.
    EvE Rookie Collective Alliance
    Posted - 2006.05.25 01:55:00 - [111]
     

    Edited by: Nav3EVA on 25/05/2006 02:13:24
    Edited by: Nav3EVA on 25/05/2006 02:13:02
    As I see this, DD is just trying to snuff us out because we have exposed his
    real personality. He is out for his own well being and won't stop till we are either
    off eve or whatever. Too bad that's not going to happen.

    I was the one in the beginning that they tried to get booted, only because I was
    the youngest most immature at the time. I am 15 and they thought I was an easy target, but that didn't stop Ethan and the
    other directors from saving me from the boot. Ethan has no tolerance for adults abusing minors in his corp. He has said this
    many times on TS.

    Once they saw what Devildog was doing, Devildog started a riot within the corp. Then, when Devildog saw
    that it was not getting anywhere, he started to put people against Ethan. Those who were loyal did what they could to smooth
    out the corp, all the non-loyal members left.

    Even though we were wounded, we still survived.

    Presently we are thriving in 0.0 and with ASCN on our side, we
    can't fail.


    We thought we had left them behind us and now, all the jealous ex-members are trying to hurt our name, but if you saw how
    this corp. is run, you would be amazed. TheMM is a great corp. and now that we
    have became so strong , they will try to put us down. This shall not succeed, for
    we play, fight, laugh, and cry together.

    We are a great corp. because we are in a giant alliance, we are not great because we wealthy, we are great because of the
    people within the corp. And if you say our leaders are bad, if you say our
    members are bad, you are sadly mistaken.

    Commander Nave.

    Stalker McDeathkill
    Minmatar
    Brutor Tribe
    Posted - 2006.05.25 02:01:00 - [112]
     


    Cool

    Hysenthlay
    Minmatar
    Old Timers Guild
    Fatal Ascension
    Posted - 2006.05.25 02:12:00 - [113]
     

    I dunno what to tell ya. Ethans a pretty cool cat in my book.
    None of what you say had anything to do with the decision of myself and others in Industrial Knights to merge with THEMM.

    Ethans a straight shooter. He will tell you where you stand and he will tell you how he feels.

    Sure he may scream at times but leading a large corp can make you crazy at times.

    All it requires from you is a bit of patience and good communication skills :)

    I am proud to be part of THEMM and ASCN.

    Great bunch of folks here. Too bad you missed the boat.Rolling Eyes

    Caldari Citizen5465
    Caldari
    Doomheim
    Posted - 2006.05.25 02:18:00 - [114]
     

    I must comment on this issue.
    THEMM doesnt know anything that went on , I dont give a $#@$ any more.
    If DD's Shirt doesnt go with his pants then thats his own problem if he doesnt want to listen

    I bat for both teams when it comes to this and thats all I have to say about that.
    its time to move on, and this will make us stronger knowing that half the members in THEMM only read Half the Comments in the Forum

    Fact... THis whole thing is Dumb
    False... I am Ethan Kel
    Fact... I might be
    False... I dont care
    Fact... I bat for both teams on all issues

    So lets drop everything and Move On !Embarassed

    Caldari Citizen5465
    Caldari
    Doomheim
    Posted - 2006.05.25 02:19:00 - [115]
     

    as for you nav...

    I got nothing but love for you Laughing

    Glass Eye
    Caldari
    The Merchant Marines
    Miners With Attitude
    Posted - 2006.05.25 02:27:00 - [116]
     

    only been in THEMM for a about 2 months but i have to say some things here.
    i dont always agree with every decision that the directors make but i always follow them.
    Being in a 0.0 alliance corp means that sometimes you have to sacrifice time to keep the corp afloat as it were. yes we have a chance to make lots of money out here. but if you dont spend time with corp ops and defence of space ( or expanding if it comes to that) than all you are is a sponge.
    I am bearly 3 months old am near the top of the killboards for the corp. I have all the iskies I need and attend any corp ops that i am online for.
    I am dedicated to this corp and have not seen anything in ethan to make me think hes anything but a sound leader.
    Yes he gets riled up at times but not at stupid stuff. he defends his corp and his corpmates. even if he has to argue with alliance HC to do so.
    As we are still in the alliance he must be doing something right. And as the majority of the corp is still happy and enjoying themselves then again, hes doing something right.


    Ethan Kel
    Caldari
    shadow and flame
    Arcane Alliance
    Posted - 2006.05.25 02:32:00 - [117]
     

    Originally by: Ethan KeI
    as for you nav...

    I got nothing but love for you Laughing



    ATTENTION MODERATORS NOW THEY HAVE HACKED THIS AND POSTED THIS AS ME.

    THAT POST WAS NOT BE ME!

    PLEASE REMOVE IT.

    Thanks

    Ethan

    Vivian Leigh
    Caldari
    Doomheim
    Posted - 2006.05.25 02:35:00 - [118]
     

    Edited by: Vivian Leigh on 25/05/2006 02:36:21
    wrong alt brb as ethan

    Ethan Kel
    Caldari
    shadow and flame
    Arcane Alliance
    Posted - 2006.05.25 02:38:00 - [119]
     

    Edited by: Ethan Kel on 25/05/2006 02:46:00
    Edited by: Ethan Kel on 25/05/2006 02:43:16
    Edited by: Ethan Kel on 25/05/2006 02:42:30
    Originally by: Ethan KeI
    I must comment on this issue.
    THEMM doesnt know anything that went on , I dont give a $#@$ any more.
    If DD's Shirt doesnt go with his pants then thats his own problem if he doesnt want to listen

    I bat for both teams when it comes to this and thats all I have to say about that.
    its time to move on, and this will make us stronger knowing that half the members in THEMM only read Half the Comments in the Forum

    Fact... THis whole thing is Dumb
    False... I am Ethan Kel
    Fact... I might be
    False... I dont care
    Fact... I bat for both teams on all issues

    So lets drop everything and Move On !Embarassed







    NOR IS THIS POST ME AS WELL. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID IN OUR CORP CHATS. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ALL OF EVE THE KIND OF PEOPLE ALL OF YOU REALLY ARE!

    Moderators please lock this and leave it so that others may witness this.

    Nav3EVA
    Caldari
    Requiem.
    EvE Rookie Collective Alliance
    Posted - 2006.05.25 03:08:00 - [120]
     

    Edited by: Nav3EVA on 25/05/2006 03:08:28
    Man, You all are really messed up. TheMM has let all this go, but you insist on provking your own demise. You are messing it up for yourself and you don't even know it. I think the best thing for you all is to just let it be. We won, you lost. We didn't die, and all you can do is whine. For me, this is fine. Devildog, Lebob, and the rest of VOFL or whatever, please continue to slander your own name, for this only shows what kind of people you really are.

    Commander Nave


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