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Wraithwing
Posted - 2006.05.06 13:56:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Wraithwing on 06/05/2006 13:57:15

I see that the Drones skill gives you 5 active drones and thier a is a high slot item tha takes like 75000 power and gives you one more.

But I saw alot of Dominix setups where they have 15 drones? Is this just for swapping out for different damage types or is thier ways to have more then 5 at a time?

Prant
Posted - 2006.05.06 14:07:00 - [2]
 

That is what is in your hold. Yes, you have it right - you can have replacements or different types for different situations but you can only fly 5 at a time. Many people like to carry a mix of different sizes, for matching to the class of the target, or different damage types to match the opponents weaknesses, or some of the utility type drones for mining, repair, EW, etc. as well as combat drones.

The module that you saw is for fitting on carriers and the like, thus the insane power requirement.

Also beware that once upon a time more drones were allowed (but they were weaker), and you may occasionally find old documents that no longer apply to the current game conditions.

Drizit
Amarr
Posted - 2006.05.06 17:49:00 - [3]
 

Also you may see a skill book still in the database that you can't buy any more. This allowed 5 extra drones at one time so it wasn't uncommon to see people with 10 drones flying at once until they nerfed it.

I heard they nerfed it because some people were using drones to create too much lag for those with slower connections as an exploit. Not sure if this is true though.

Pity though, with all those extra support drones avaialable now, it would be nice to have control over them as well as the combat drones.


Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.05.06 17:50:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Drizit
Also you may see a skill book still in the database that you can't buy any more. This allowed 5 extra drones at one time so it wasn't uncommon to see people with 10 drones flying at once until they nerfed it.

"Drone Interfacing" allowed up to 5 extra drones.

They didn't nerf it, either, they simply changed it.

Dahak2150
Arm of Orion
Posted - 2006.05.06 17:52:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Drizit
Also you may see a skill book still in the database that you can't buy any more. This allowed 5 extra drones at one time so it wasn't uncommon to see people with 10 drones flying at once until they nerfed it.

"Drone Interfacing" allowed up to 5 extra drones.

They didn't nerf it, either, they simply changed it.


Made it so it'll take until I'm old and grey to use......

Sad

Prant
Posted - 2006.05.06 18:13:00 - [6]
 

Dont understand what you mean - the skill exists and now it gives extra damage to the drones. A very good skill for every drone user to train...you need drones at V, but that's the only way you get to fly 5 drones anyway.

Since it gives 20% plus on damage to each drone per level you train, 5 drones with this skill trained equal in damage 10 drones without this skill...

That's not really nerfed, is it?

Jhaquo
Minmatar
A new Order
Posted - 2006.05.06 20:20:00 - [7]
 

well, now if you lose one drone...

Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.05.06 20:33:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Jhaquo
well, now if you lose one drone...

It takes twice as much damage for you to lose that drone Wink

Wraithwing
Posted - 2006.05.07 00:17:00 - [9]
 

Thanks alot for the information.

Another thing that threw me off is that the Drone guide shows you get +1 drone control as a ship bonus for every level as the Dominix.

I guess giving you a skill to make drones do double damage and doubling thier HPs but cutting amount you can control in half is a good way to cut down lag.


Benglada
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2006.05.07 00:19:00 - [10]
 

Drone guide is out dated

SpaceDrake Storyteller
Posted - 2006.05.07 09:30:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Wraithwing
Thanks alot for the information.

Another thing that threw me off is that the Drone guide shows you get +1 drone control as a ship bonus for every level as the Dominix.

I guess giving you a skill to make drones do double damage and doubling thier HPs but cutting amount you can control in half is a good way to cut down lag.




Precisely. The Vexor and the Dominix used to get +1 drone controlled per level - they could eventually spit out 15 drones at once.

The thing was, this meant that without maxed skills, you ended up with very uneven drone deployments off of vessels meant to carry specific flights of drones. It made for annoying drone management (such as half-used drone bay space and uneven drone flights) and a general feeling that the ships were "gimped" without maxed or near-maxed drone skills. The 15-drone blobs were always fun to watch, though.

The best part was the old bonus on the Moros - it could deploy five drones per level of Gallente Dreadnought, so at max skils it could spit out 35 drones at once. Shocked

Fast forward to Red Moon Rising. Drone Interfacing is turned into +20% damage and mining per level, and all ships in the game are rebalanced around the fact that you control 5 drones maximum. It makes for much cleaner drone use - you aren't keeping track of as many at once, they're doing more damage, and some oddities like the Thorax drone bay are addressed. (It originally had a drone bay twice the size of the Vexor - it could deploy eight heavy drones off of a Cruiser frame!Shocked) The Dominix even got a buffed drone bay - previously it could only hold two "full" flights of 15 heavy drones. Now it can hold three full flights of five - five which are heavily modified for damage and durability by skills.

So yes, you used to control many more drones, but the changes they made were for the better. Driving ships like the Vexor and Dominix is great fun now, since the drones themselves are modified, not the number you control.

Of course, the Moros still controls not so much "drones" as it does miniature cruisers at higher skill levels, but that's another thread for another day...

Hoshi
Hedron Industries
Red Dwarf Racketeering Division
Posted - 2006.05.07 13:11:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller


Precisely. The Vexor and the Dominix used to get +1 drone controlled per level - they could eventually spit out 15 drones at once.

The thing was, this meant that without maxed skills, you ended up with very uneven drone deployments off of vessels meant to carry specific flights of drones. It made for annoying drone management (such as half-used drone bay space and uneven drone flights) and a general feeling that the ships were "gimped" without maxed or near-maxed drone skills. The 15-drone blobs were always fun to watch, though.

The reason the Devs stated for changing it was not balancing but lag. 10+ drones per ships was just too resource intensive on the servers. So they changed it so 5 drones would do and take the same damage as the 10+ used to do.


 

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