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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
Posted - 2006.04.11 21:25:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Pottsey on 11/04/2006 21:28:47
I wanted to do something a little different for a change of pace. So I got thinking and decided to go back to my routes. I started with smartbombs only but had to give them up pretty fast. This little project started out only for fun but it turned out to be pretty effective so far. I might just keep using this a bit longer.

Take a shiny new Megathron and make sure you donít tell the crew what your about to do. Now fit 7 large smart bombs T1 and 1 civilian turret or laser, something without ammo. In the mids slots fit 1, 100MW AB T1, 1 Heavy capacitor booster, 2 large shield extenders T2. In the low slots fit 7 PDS T2 modules.

Take a level 3 mission warp to the area and have fun. I just did the first area of an Serpentis Extravaganza without any problem. Very surprising actually I thought I would have to warp out. The high hitpoints and small passive regen is holding so far. But I do need to test more.

Pick a rat group, AB towards them, turn AB off when in range and let rip with 4 to 7 smart bombs depending on the rat group with all bombs set to manual. Reapeat 2 to 3 times by now all the rats should be dead. Perhaps move a little to get into range of any rats you missed. Repeat another wave of smarts bombs. Move to next group repeat. The key it to not auto cycle smart bombs but only set them off when things are in range. So far cap regen when moving between rats has been enough to keep the smart bombs going. I only had to use the Heavry capacitor booster once when I used too many bombs.

At first glance DPS looks bad at 233.3 DPS in the first wave. But you got to remember you can hit more then one target at once. So if you hit 5 targets thatís 233.3 x5. So 1166.6 DPS not bad for a low skillpoint T1 weapon system. Due to this being fun I only used basic T1 smart bombs instead of investing in T2. Its defiantly worth looking into better named or T2 bombs which will boost DPS a lot. Thatís for tomorrow.

EDIT: Think of a mission like blockade where lots of rats spawn ontop of you.

I might scrap the 1 civilian turret for another bomb. The turret was to aggro rats and pull them towards me. But so far it been best to head to the rats full speed. They donít seem to respond or lock me until about 14 to 10km. At which point I am going fast enough to get into bomb range before they speed away.

For none deadspace mission a microwarp used in burst mode might be better then AB. Going try that tomorrow. The cap penalty might hurt to much.

Advantages of this setup.
Its fun and different.
No locking needed.
Impossible to miss if enemy in range. No losing DPS from missing your target.
No tracking problems you hit small targets just as well as big.
No warp core stab needed any NPCís that try to warp scrabble die fast.
No ammo to mess around with.
Cheap setup.



Disadvantages
Everyone will think your crazy
Not to be used in gangs of people who are not in your corp.
Perhaps best not to use around anyone else full stop.
Donít use drones unless you very good controlling them.

Having only done 1 mission it might not work for all missions. Anyone spot any flews I missed or got tips on improving the setup?

lofty29
Aliastra
Posted - 2006.04.11 21:37:00 - [2]
 

Laughing Yet another crazy discovery pottsey. I only just got lvl 3 missions (had lvl 1 this morning after over a years play Razz) and am about to buy a megathron to run them. Great idea! Very Happy

Daivasth
Posted - 2006.04.11 21:45:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: lofty29
Laughing Yet another crazy discovery pottsey. I only just got lvl 3 missions (had lvl 1 this morning after over a years play Razz) and am about to buy a megathron to run them. Great idea! Very Happy


:-(

large guns dont do squat to frigates and cruisers.

lofty29
Aliastra
Posted - 2006.04.11 21:47:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Daivasth
Originally by: lofty29
Laughing Yet another crazy discovery pottsey. I only just got lvl 3 missions (had lvl 1 this morning after over a years play Razz) and am about to buy a megathron to run them. Great idea! Very Happy


:-(

large guns dont do squat to frigates and cruisers.


But a swarm of well skilled light drones do Cool

Franny
Mentis Seorsum
Posted - 2006.04.11 22:28:00 - [5]
 

pottsey, add sentry drones?

drop the sentry drones, run toward the rats
then start the smart bombs

should help cover rats running away

Ryysa
Mission Fail
Posted - 2006.04.12 04:39:00 - [6]
 

someone is very bored =p

But funny idea.

Caesar Galactus
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.04.12 04:48:00 - [7]
 

I did this with my Prophecy and medium SBs a couple of weeks ago, and it worked very nicely...until only Cruiser rats were left. At that point it was time to warp back and refit, but it sure got rid of those annoying Gallente frigs very fast.

Steven Dynahir
Gallente
Avaruuslaivanrakentajat Oyj
Posted - 2006.04.12 08:27:00 - [8]
 

Quote:
Donít use drones unless you very good controlling them.


Let's rephrase that to.. "Don't use drones that orbit the enemy". Just put your sentries up and let them shoot at things freely.

Draec Sjet
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.04.12 14:24:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Daivasth
Originally by: lofty29
Laughing Yet another crazy discovery pottsey. I only just got lvl 3 missions (had lvl 1 this morning after over a years play Razz) and am about to buy a megathron to run them. Great idea! Very Happy


:-(

large guns dont do squat to frigates and cruisers.


aww, transversal beating you huh Laughing

Cpt Placeholder
Posted - 2006.04.12 14:43:00 - [10]
 

hmm would be funny to try this against the first fleet in sabotaged

i'll do that when i feel rich enough :P

HippoKing
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.04.12 14:45:00 - [11]
 

this is one of the craziest ideas i've ever heard.

love it Very Happy
wish i could fly a mega...

HippoKing
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.04.12 14:46:00 - [12]
 

also: webbing frigates orbit at 7.5km

i think that could possibly really ruin your day

LUKEC
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.04.12 16:59:00 - [13]
 

WTS true sansha large smartbomb:P

Also the rumor out there is that tier 3 minmater bs will have smartbomb range increase 10% / lvl and 5% smarbomb activation time.

HippoKing
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.04.12 16:59:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: LUKEC
WTS true sansha large smartbomb:P

Also the rumor out there is that tier 3 minmater bs will have smartbomb range increase 10% / lvl and 5% smarbomb activation time.


are you sure that wasn't a rumor started to **** of the minmatar?

LUKEC
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.04.12 17:05:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: LUKEC
WTS true sansha large smartbomb:P

Also the rumor out there is that tier 3 minmater bs will have smartbomb range increase 10% / lvl and 5% smarbomb activation time.


are you sure that wasn't a rumor started to **** of the minmatar?


No it has been confirmed by some of GM's in bob... ups i talk too much again...

On serious note, i know it is a joke to make minmate train some more.

lofty29
Aliastra
Posted - 2006.04.12 17:08:00 - [16]
 

OMFG. What a useless bonus for the minnie bs. Fits perfectly! Laughing

Heikki
Gallente
Erasers inc.
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2006.04.12 21:30:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: LUKEC

On serious note, i know it is a joke to make minmate train some more.

Damn, and I was already logging in to start the Minmatar tree from scratch.

Just waiting for Potsey to find one lv4 mission where Smartie setup excels over conventional ones; now there is challenge :)


Once long ago I was NPCing and figured a 5km smarty would be good anti-scrambler protection. But no, seemed that they were orbiting at 7km.

Oh well, fit 7.5km Sansha and go back. Lo, now (after blast or two) it looked like they started orbiting at 9km, almost like they were adapting.

So I gave up, bought 9km smarties, and went on chaining more predictable PCs.

-Lasse

Eternal Fury
Rage of Inferno
Posted - 2006.04.12 22:25:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: HippoKing
also: webbing frigates orbit at 7.5km

i think that could possibly really ruin your day


don't the large smartbombs reach to like 9 or 10K? That should fix em.

Madcat Adams
Amarr
Romulan Technologies Limited
Posted - 2006.04.12 23:54:00 - [19]
 

Perhpas including a Webber in the setup for scramblers? Once their slowed, just set course right at them and activate your AB, should run them down easily enough. Jamming would be a prob, but idealy you already vaporized the jammers with the Smart Bombs =)

Daivasth
Posted - 2006.04.13 01:27:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Draec Sjet
Originally by: Daivasth
Originally by: lofty29
Laughing Yet another crazy discovery pottsey. I only just got lvl 3 missions (had lvl 1 this morning after over a years play Razz) and am about to buy a megathron to run them. Great idea! Very Happy


:-(

large guns dont do squat to frigates and cruisers.


aww, transversal beating you huh Laughing


stfu n00b, only n00bs like you get affected by transversal velocity. *shifty eyes* Crying or Very sad

The reason why my tempest doesnt hit frigates is because... umm... I feel sorry for their small "barrel" size compared to mine. Embarassed

Uggster
Caldari
FinFleet
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.04.13 01:45:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Daivasth
Originally by: Draec Sjet
Originally by: Daivasth
Originally by: lofty29
Laughing Yet another crazy discovery pottsey. I only just got lvl 3 missions (had lvl 1 this morning after over a years play Razz) and am about to buy a megathron to run them. Great idea! Very Happy


:-(

large guns dont do squat to frigates and cruisers.


aww, transversal beating you huh Laughing


stfu n00b, only n00bs like you get affected by transversal velocity. *shifty eyes* Crying or Very sad

The reason why my tempest doesnt hit frigates is because... umm... I feel sorry for their small "barrel" size compared to mine. Embarassed



Hahahaha, envy 4tw LaughingLaughing

On another note, the fast moving angel rats that dance about 8.5-9k from your ship and move FAST (to fast for DS afterburner but you know...) these might need the web and thrust trick or the drone massive.

But apart from that sounds like a good fun thing to try.

RedWolf 359
Amarr
Posted - 2006.04.13 03:26:00 - [22]
 

why do they call 'em "smartbombs" anyway???


 

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