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Kayl Breinhar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.04.13 00:55:00 - [151]
 

The Amarr looks like the Kilrathi "Snak-ir" Battleship from the awful Wing Commander movie.

Leshrac Shepherd
Amarr
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
Posted - 2006.04.13 03:15:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: MrFu
I suddenly feel the urge to self destruct my tempest,hit my head against a wall and wake up tomorrow and find out al was a dream,and all my skills are at gallente or something
I feel your pain.

Morgana Janan
GalacTECH Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
Posted - 2006.04.13 04:13:00 - [153]
 

The Minmitar design is very reminescent of the Stabber. I like it.

Alekzander
Caldari
Renovate
Rejuvenate
Posted - 2006.04.13 05:29:00 - [154]
 

I think the caldari one is going to be along the lines of how the cormorant, ferox and phoenix look, long and stalky but not too asymetric. We already have the scorp and raven being extremly asymetric so I can easily see the new ship being more like a flying brick.

Cassie Anderson
Posted - 2006.04.13 05:34:00 - [155]
 

I think the teir 3 Caldari BS, is going be made out of the missing parts from the Raven and Scorpion. might look kinda funky Cool

Major Reeves
Posted - 2006.04.13 06:02:00 - [156]
 

I looked though the book. I have actually seen the Mim Dread in game and it looks very much like the artwork.

Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2006.04.13 07:39:00 - [157]
 

Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 13/04/2006 07:39:32
Originally by: Morgana Janan
The Minmitar design is very reminescent of the Stabber. I like it.


Looks more like a Bellicose to me. I like the fuselage but dislike the huge fins. If it goes ingame as is... I will fly the Amarr one and keep to phoons and pests.

Hayabusa Fury
Caldari
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.04.13 07:44:00 - [158]
 

Everyone keeps saying the minni one doesn't look crappy enough. Since the crappiness of minni ships comes from low resources of recently being oppressed, I would think enough time has passed and the empire has grown enough that a "NEW" Battleship would appear nicer than the others.

I dunno...

Hayabusa Fury
Caldari
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.04.13 07:48:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: Cassie Anderson
I think the teir 3 Caldari BS, is going be made out of the missing parts from the Raven and Scorpion. might look kinda funky Cool



The secret is, that once the Tier 3 Caldari ship is released we will find out that all the Caldari BS's connect to form a super sexy happy mega fun wtf pwnmobile!!!!

Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2006.04.13 08:05:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
Everyone keeps saying the minni one doesn't look crappy enough. Since the crappiness of minni ships comes from low resources of recently being oppressed, I would think enough time has passed and the empire has grown enough that a "NEW" Battleship would appear nicer than the others.

I dunno...


I like the idea of the ship... but the fins are just a bit too much. It looks like a doberman in space.

Kai Jyokoroi
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.04.13 08:17:00 - [161]
 

Shocked Are we looking at the same Minnie battleship here?!

That thing looks ACE!

I started flying a 'phoon for fun recently, and if this is what the final tier 3 Minnie BS design will look like - well, that sells it.

Minmatar skill tree, here I come! YARRRR!!

Chi Prime
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.04.13 09:20:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Corphus
here somert i made while supposed to be workin Laughing: Annihilation Tier 3 BS


those bonuses are sacriledge Laughing

Hutchins
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.04.13 09:58:00 - [163]
 

I really like the Amarr design, and I'm abivalent about the Gallente design. I take issue with the Minmatar design though. Please, give us just one downright scary looking battleship. We've got a tattered steel sailfish and a hollowed out spacelog right now. I'd prefer it to be as utilitarian and ugly as possible. Don't give us Mataris something that could grace the cover of EON. Give us something that will have hostile pilots saying in gang 'God that thing is hideous. Oh, and make sure to stay out of it's targetting range unless you like being in a pod.'

Rachag
Posted - 2006.04.13 10:21:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
The Minmatar are described in the chronicles somewhere (can never find it when I want to post referencing it :P) as being a race just starting to reach for the stars, but exhibiting the best engineering skills seen in the eve galaxy.

They were then reduced practically to rubble by the amarr (who also took a lot of the population for there slave labour) the result was the early minmatar ship designs being made from whatever low-tech parts the matari could scrounge together or build.
It has now been, reportedly over a century since the minmatar rebel forces (combined with the amarr empires defeat at the hands of the jovian directorate) forced the amarr to retreat from what is now known as minmatar space and the matari were able to start rebuilding.

In short, it makes sense that newer ship designs should be a lot cleaner and built in a more orderly fashion, note that they still can't afford to splash out on fancy exteriors, massively thick armour plate and so on .. I personally feel that the new battleship fits fine with all this.

As to what it actually looks like, I think its a bit hard to tell from that picture.


i totally agree, the new BS is the next step in the evolution of Minmatar design and construction, better designed, better built and still showing its Minnie heritage, i love it. CoolCoolCool

Corphus
Posted - 2006.04.13 13:43:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: Litus Arowar
Originally by: Corphus
ok here somert i made while supposed to be workin Laughing: Annihilation Tier 3 BS

as much as I like the sketch, the fricking stats make me vomit blood... I don't mean make me WANT to vomit blood, I mean I'm currently covered in my own blood which burst forth from my mouth...

if the tier 3 BS goes on this "khanid innovation" idea, it'll be completely and entirely useless

seriously, I'm thinking you might be kidding and I'm overreacting

shield tank with 4 mid slots? missile boat with only 4 launchers? 4 turret mounts with no turret bonuses? holy mother of god, it sure is true to khanid design, IE frickin useless... how you figure that ship could be used is beyond me, other than being fodder for the real ships


em dmg is highly underestimated. another point is that this ship isnt supposed to use a heavy tank like apoc or raven. however u can always switch to armor or even hull tanking via dmg control.
its faster and lighter than all amarr ships making it good for ab/mwd use. u got a rof bonus of 10% making it spam torps and cruise 50% faster at lvl 5. tbh torps at that rof are deadly especially since there only a small amout of ppl who actively tank their armor against EM dmg.

my idea was to create a smaller and more agile skirmish warfare vessel for the amarr which usually use to outtank/ outdmg their enemies. anyway i never flew an amarr ship and therefore this is only an idea to bring in some variation. however the initial idea was not to create a ship which would make the tier 1 and 2 bs lookin weak vs the new tier 3 one.
imo eve should be more tactical and implement all kinds of strategic ideas to make a race good in combat than simply build bigger and stronger ships with more deadly bonuses for their primary weapons.

Litus Arowar
Posted - 2006.04.13 22:11:00 - [166]
 

Edited by: Litus Arowar on 13/04/2006 22:13:10
Corphus, the only reason I'm so against that set of stats is cause such ships exist already... the vengeance and the malediction (AF and inty) most notably... the malediction is useful cause it's the 3-slot inty for amarr, but the vengeance is a paperweight...

now, granted, the speed and agility of your design is a bonus, and it could be effective in combat with short range ammo in the lasers and 4 torp launchers, but generally speaking a split shield/armour design means a ship can do neither tank well... this means that even if your damage is outstanding (especially if your damage is outstanding actually) you'll be called primary and your tank will be tested before your damage really starts to shine

Kai Jyokoroi
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.04.14 08:02:00 - [167]
 

So totally disappointed at the Gallente design. Instead of making a decent actual ship-shaped design, we get something that looks like it was thrown together in 5 minutes using Bryce. Sad

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2006.04.14 10:26:00 - [168]
 

The amarrian one looks sweet as hell. It looks more like a really functional and brutally powerful warship than a symbol of imperial might. It also looks more high-tech, as befits a ship that is presumably a far more recent design than the geddon and the apoc.

Likewise, I love the look of the minmatar ship - it looks sleek and dangerous, like some kind of enormous multi-finned space shark. I'm also loving how it looks that little bit more professionally done than other Minnie ships - as if the Republic's finally got some kind of a centralised and dedicated ship design board set up, and are looking to create something that, despite beind all modern and high-tech, still looks undeniably Minmatar.

Not so keen on the gallente one, but then, I never have like the gallente look quite as much (except in space stations). I reckon it'd look better without the disk in the middle, but with the engines rising out of low-slung blisters on the hull instead.

When do we get to see the Caldari concept? That's the one I'm most interested in.

Corphus
Posted - 2006.04.14 12:31:00 - [169]
 

ok since work is so boring and the boss isnt around me presses the ms paint activation icon once again Very Happy...

i know that ccp will most likely think im an idiot but if the minmatar get one of those ill train minmatar bs to 5 for sure YARRRR!!

imo matari ships should look somert like this !



Jerick Ludhowe
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
Posted - 2006.04.14 14:20:00 - [170]
 

Wow Corphus, I really like the look of that concept. Has a somewhat streamlined look to it but retains the ruggedness of the minmatar ship design. Reminds me of the Matari Carrier and to a lesser extent the cyclone. With anyluck all future Matari ships will follow this design style. Good work man, that ship looks hot Very Happy

Zoon
Posted - 2006.04.14 14:38:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: Corphus
ok since work is so boring and the boss isnt around me presses the ms paint activation icon once again Very Happy...

i know that ccp will most likely think im an idiot but if the minmatar get one of those ill train minmatar bs to 5 for sure YARRRR!!

imo matari ships should look somert like this !


Me likey Very Happy

Von Mystiker
Posted - 2006.04.14 15:14:00 - [172]
 

Originally by: Corphus
ok since work is so boring and the boss isnt around me presses the ms paint activation icon once again Very Happy...

i know that ccp will most likely think im an idiot but if the minmatar get one of those ill train minmatar bs to 5 for sure YARRRR!!

imo matari ships should look somert like this !





That reminds me of the Battlecruiser from Starcraft.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2006.04.14 15:51:00 - [173]
 

Edited by: Ranger 1 on 14/04/2006 15:51:15
Actually, the Minnie BS is growing on me. It's Retro in a way, which is a bit of a step forward technogically speaking that the heavy industrial look they currently have... which makes sense I suppose. Sort of the "futuristic" look you would see on appliances in the 50's and 60's when they were trying to give things a high tech look. All it would need is a bit of chrome thrown on there. Smile

It suggests technological advances for the Matari, but still looks "old school" compared to the other races. Interesting.


Dollas
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.14 21:27:00 - [174]
 

I love the new designs. It will definantly be breath of fresh air seeing more than just the raven and the 3-4 other usual battleships ingame.

I hate to judge the artwork especially since I am no where near able to design something as fancy or originaly as these works of art. In my opinion the gallente BS looks a little bland and/or is missing something. Also I quite dislike the huge fins/solar panels on the minmatar tier 3 battleship. Besides that, they are excellent. The designs surpassed all my hopes for all the new Battleships. Lets just hope the tier 2 battlecruisers and the caldari battleship looks just as great.

Btw I don't see whats all the fuss about the amarr Battleship looking like a freighter and about all the exposed hull.

ZuN3
kleptomaniacs
Posted - 2006.04.14 21:47:00 - [175]
 

Edited by: ZuN3 on 14/04/2006 21:51:19
Edited by: ZuN3 on 14/04/2006 21:50:27
Edited by: ZuN3 on 14/04/2006 21:49:21
Originally by: Corphus
ok since work is so boring and the boss isnt around me presses the ms paint activation icon once again Very Happy...

i know that ccp will most likely think im an idiot but if the minmatar get one of those ill train minmatar bs to 5 for sure YARRRR!!

imo matari ships should look somert like this !





Nice!

CCP please think about a change of concept artist for the minmmatar tier 3 BS! Or even just give the current one that design, and let him work with that, drawn in more detail, maybe slight tweaks here and there, etc Cool

it incorporates elements of the stabber and other minmatar ships, with a slightly sleeker look, but still with traditional minmatar features, definetly how an 'evolved' modern minmie ship should look.

/me starts a petition to get this design into the game.YARRRR!!

Redmond Fiur
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.04.14 21:52:00 - [176]
 

Amarr: It really is a nice design, though very much like a hotdog.

Minmatar: I love it, I love my bellicose to death and this thing really is what I have always believed the belli shouldve looked like.

Gallente: Very nice, organic feel to it. It remind me alot of some kind of interstellar research vessel, but thats just me. And don't touch that ring! It's the best part of that ship.

Kadrush
Posted - 2006.04.18 11:57:00 - [177]
 

ETA for Kali? Anyone?

Chedburn
Eve Defence Force
Praesidium Libertatis
Posted - 2006.04.18 12:56:00 - [178]
 

Amarr looks kind of like something i saw in starwars - Hmmm.

Synapse Archae
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2006.04.18 14:17:00 - [179]
 

I think I'm the only one who doesnt think the amarr one looks amarrian. Amarr ships have always been totally covered in that nice gold armor plating. This one looks like somone gave an apoc to the minmatars, so they just stripped the armor off one of their stations, cut the apoc in 5 pieces and glued them onto the station.

Honestly, more gold armor for the amarr one.

Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2006.04.18 14:51:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: Synapse Archae
I think I'm the only one who doesnt think the amarr one looks amarrian. Amarr ships have always been totally covered in that nice gold armor plating. This one looks like somone gave an apoc to the minmatars, so they just stripped the armor off one of their stations, cut the apoc in 5 pieces and glued them onto the station.

Honestly, more gold armor for the amarr one.


You need to expose the power system to space to vent heat from 8 Tacks with 3 Faction Heatsinks while Armor Tanking like a terror. Or do you want to become an boiled egg inside your pod?


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