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Krulla
Minmatar
Miner Protection Guild
Posted - 2006.04.11 22:34:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Litus Arowar
Edited by: Litus Arowar on 11/04/2006 08:10:54
well speaking of symmetry we haven't seen the caldari design, and the amarr, gallente, and minmatar designs are largely symmetric




orly?

obviesly you dont fly Minmatar very often.


Minmatars got
2 symmetrcal frigates from old designer
3 symetrical cruiser from old designer
zero symetrical BS's from old designer
1 symmetric destr and *gasp* 1 symetrical BC from new designer Rolling Eyes

Galentte got:
1 symetrical figate from old designer
Zero symetrical cruisers (no vexor is not symmetrical)
1 symetrical BS ..¨


so symmetry away!



This isn't exactly accurate.

Most ships bar caldari are mostly symmetrical, with minor differences; take for instance the Megathron, it's symmetrical, but with minor doodads on each side; ditto for Vexor, tristan, incursus, etc.

Symmetry - sure. But not 100% symmetry.

Utterly asymmetrical ships are cool, so are almost symmetrical ones - and completely symmetrical ones, when used in moderation.

BadManEdmundo
Viziam
Posted - 2006.04.11 22:51:00 - [92]
 

That Amarr looks so sinister and threatening and suits the role perfectly, a name such as "Decimator" would go quite well. The Minmatar battleship is very similar to the Bellicose in a sense it doesn’t look sturdy and isn't meant for close range combat, and with the long sweeping bays on the side’s looks like drone bays, could this be a Minmatar drone carrier?
The Gallente I look at with confusion, I presume the small raised part of the design behind the disc is the 'Bridge' or Command Deck so to speak, with the disc being the engines, but without knowing the role, I cant think what would suite its design. The Megathron features a sweeping design for its indication of speed for its close range blasters, and the Dominix with its centralising design as it holds a large drone bay and improved tanking ability.
But I always admire Concept art and they are extremely impressive, and with artwork form the Asian characters, I hope these designs are used on the final production.

Jared VonBargen
Caldari
Knockaround Guys
Posted - 2006.04.11 23:06:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Mjala
Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTHE CALDARI TIER3 BS!!!!!!11111Twisted EvilTwisted Evil


see, bandwidth blocks views now.....it was a hoax, caldari wont ever get a non-missile BS :(

shaqarava
Amarr
AFK
Posted - 2006.04.11 23:14:00 - [94]
 

Edited by: shaqarava on 11/04/2006 23:17:42
The Amarrian one is great, looks like an Amarrian/Caldari hybrid; with Caldari style crude, utilitarian inner structure and Amarrian style grandiose plating. Maybe it can be of Khanid origin.

Now to wait for the navy and/or pirate versions of these ships to come out Twisted Evil

pyr8t
United Minmatar Nation Industries
Posted - 2006.04.11 23:57:00 - [95]
 

I've heard of 'navy' versions of ships.... but there's 'pirate' versions? This is the first i've heard of this.

How do you get them... and how do they look differently?

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2006.04.12 00:07:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: j0sephine
"Doesn't EVE run on any resolution?"

Think it does... it works for me at least, can select modes like 1280 x 7xx which are widescreen ratio... and it works fine o.O;

Except for the (sometimes severe) distortion at the edges. Though I don't know if that is what Glarion Garnier was talking about.

j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.12 00:13:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: j0sephine on 12/04/2006 00:17:00

"Except for the (sometimes severe) distortion at the edges. Though I don't know if that is what Glarion Garnier was talking about."

Edge distortion is a pretty normal effect of perspective used in game -- the camera 'sees' 60+ degree field, but this field is drawn on flat monitor screen which often covers smaller area of space in real world than these 60+ degrees in front of you, to boot... can't do really much about it short of narrowing the field of view (which would actually have nice side-effect of making your ship appear 'bigger) ... or by rendering the scene in smaller chunks which would help to remove most obvious distortions, but at the price of creating 'fisheye lens' effect and possibly smaller framerate.

It's possible game engine scales the field of vision to screen aspect ratio -- i.e. the wider the screen, the larger is field camera renders at once ... which in turn makes this distortion more pronounced.

hired goon
Posted - 2006.04.12 00:54:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Rosalina Sarinna
Originally by: hired goon
All these designs are bad, very bad.


Thats not fair to say unless you can give detail as to why they dont suit their faction / role or whatever.


Well, I feel they are not very representative of the respective races styles. Discorporation pretty much brought up the points I'd say.

The ship designer interviewed in EON sounded like he knew what he was talking about. He stated how you can't simply design a ship then make it bigger and blam - titan. You have to take the scale into consideration.

For example the 'fish fins' on a tempest are also present on Naglfars and Sandcrawlers. They're just smaller and less noticable.

And look at the titans as the extreme example. They could all just be similar looking blobs - one brown, one yellow, one grey and one green. But zoom in and the racial details become apparent.

Orree
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.04.12 00:59:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Just saw these earlier today, geez, links spread fast on irc.

They all look cool, admittedly, but I have a few things I'd like to say.. maybe the artist is reading.

Amarr - too little armor plating, especially in the front.. its also my opinion that the providence would make a better tier 3 battlship, and this could become a better freighter. But hey, providence looks like it could destroy a planet :|

<snip>




Totally agree. I always said it was a crime there are no guns on the providence. I love that model.

Lorette
Gallente
Grandma's WIth Guns
Posted - 2006.04.12 01:00:00 - [100]
 

I think they all have promise, gallente is a bit naff but most things do when you can only see a fully 2d version. One thing ive noticed is all 3 have 8 turret hardpoints (amarr and minmatar evenly along the sides, and gall 4 on each side of the front/back i assume). Possibly so devs can subtract them if they need to when they finalise the slot layouts.

Gierling
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2006.04.12 01:22:00 - [101]
 

Of course theres always the possibility that they may be Battlecruiser models.

Cus were getting new BC's.

SO I don't know if these are all bS or if they are all BC's, or if theres some of each.

Kernel Sander
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Combined Planetary Union
Posted - 2006.04.12 01:29:00 - [102]
 

Is it just me or does the Gallente one look like it is in the act of putting on a giant condom?

Meridius
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.04.12 02:15:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Gierling
Of course theres always the possibility that they may be Battlecruiser models.

Cus were getting new BC's.

SO I don't know if these are all bS or if they are all BC's, or if theres some of each.


They are labelled as battleships. Even if they were not, the scale implied by window size would definetly suggest something battleship size.

Gierling
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2006.04.12 02:22:00 - [104]
 

Fair nuff Meridius, but the artist may not know the difference between a BC and a BS and even if he does theres no gauruntees till its on Tranq.

Remember the Mammoth was originally a minnie Battleship as well.

I just wish sisi was up with these suckers on them

Krulla
Minmatar
Miner Protection Guild
Posted - 2006.04.12 02:34:00 - [105]
 

Since the new minnie BS seems to be the bellicose's bigger brother... I can't belive anyone hasn't pointed this out..

Target painter bonus? Laughing

Franky B
AUS Corporation
CORE.
Posted - 2006.04.12 02:39:00 - [106]
 

anyone else see the resemblance of the minny BS frontend with the egyptian god anubis?

http://www.linsdomain.com/gods&goddesses/pictures/relief-anubis.jpg

Lefia
Gallente
CONsordium Infinate
Posted - 2006.04.12 02:42:00 - [107]
 

If the minmatar battleship is gonna look like that I better start training up my projectile skills.

Litus Arowar
Posted - 2006.04.12 02:46:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: shaqarava
Edited by: shaqarava on 11/04/2006 23:17:42
The Amarrian one is great, looks like an Amarrian/Caldari hybrid; with Caldari style crude, utilitarian inner structure and Amarrian style grandiose plating. Maybe it can be of Khanid origin.

Now to wait for the navy and/or pirate versions of these ships to come out Twisted Evil

I believe I've just documented the only time someone used "great" and "Khanid" in the same sentence... god I hope it's not gonna be a khanid BS, cause if it is, the complaints will never stop

but I think we're safe cause Khanid does tech2... so, it's more likely that it won't be Khanid (ie: split slots, split hitpoints, split bonuses)

kessah
Blood Blind
Posted - 2006.04.12 03:29:00 - [109]
 

i duno i think the matari one looks very similar to the geddon.

the amarr one isnt typical amarr really, amarr are very stream line with more curves and what can only be explained as aerodynamic, but this is clearly not.

The Gallente one i feel needs something more that 'disk' in the middle needs to go.

They are all wonderfully detailed tho. But there not typical for there race.

Ernest Graefenberg
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2006.04.12 04:09:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Johnny Twoshoe
Nine times out of ten the concept art for a ship or ships is far more badass than the final ship model.

Just look at the concept for "Amarr Fighter", which seems to be the Executioner.

That Amarr BS concept is stunning, though.


No, thats the Templar.

Nyabinghi
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2006.04.12 04:16:00 - [111]
 

Wow love the look of the Minmatar ships. Would definatly stop the snickering.

Scagga Laebetrovo
Failure Assured
Posted - 2006.04.12 05:46:00 - [112]
 

can the minnie ship be a close up specialist with some structural integrity?

100% projectile fitting for high-slots
Better tanking

Noriath
Posted - 2006.04.12 06:12:00 - [113]
 

Those are looking neat, except the Gallente one is a side view so you really can't say what it acctually looks like.

Tiridus
Gallente
Wolf Organisation
Posted - 2006.04.12 07:28:00 - [114]
 

I like the gallente BS, its cool, probably better without the disk... maybe some thorax like winglets instead.. but i'd still buy one...

Tarri
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2006.04.12 07:42:00 - [115]
 

I love the minmatar one, i hoped it would be the same colour as the stiletto and it got it Very Happy And silver and red is imo even better on a bs then silver and blue. I don't see why minnie ships must all look the same, their old BS where build with what they had at that time but now with more ressources why shouldnt their new bs be all streamlined and good looking Cool.


Linavin
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2006.04.12 07:52:00 - [116]
 

The Minmatar design is, in my opinion, a better theme than the heavily deconstructed look currently. The sleek look, the same style of the vigil, conveys the sense of minmatar speed much better than the 'scrapheap' look does.

Nifel
PAX Technologies
Posted - 2006.04.12 08:05:00 - [117]
 

I want the wings on the minnie BS to be angled backwards. Would look more dangerous then.

Litus Arowar
Posted - 2006.04.12 08:16:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Nifel
I want the wings on the minnie BS to be angled backwards. Would look more dangerous then.

I agree, it'd look like a sweet metal shark that way :)

as for the "old look" matar vs the "new look" matar, I think they might update all the ships to look less scrapheap with the graphical overhaul that's coming soon™... it'd make a lot of sense, as matar are well past the whole "fledgling rebellion" and are a real powerhouse now... ships being overhauled to look more in line with this concept art would make sense... I personally don't like the particular design, but I do like the "look", and could see all matar ships being overhauled into a more polished, industrial look...

Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
Cruel Intentions
Posted - 2006.04.12 08:17:00 - [119]
 

The Gallentean "disk": I sort of like it, and to be honest it's needed to take away from the whole dildo and buttplug references. I honestly think there should be more disks (and other protrusions). Not necessarily pi*r^2 disks, but they could be deformed to let engine exhausts from engines located on other disks infront through, etc.

Also, I'm really missing a ship that'd imply good old-fashioned artificial gravity through rotation.

Waut
Posted - 2006.04.12 08:45:00 - [120]
 

Edited by: Waut on 12/04/2006 08:46:20
Amarr: easely the best of the 3. It screams "Don't mess with me, or else..."

Minmatar: the shapes are ok, but it's still too shiny. Needs more rusty metal and ducttape

Gallente: looks more like a dread or titan imo. Don't really like it

That said, I hope Caldari get a nice symmetric battleship. Something like the Merlin version of a Scorpion



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