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Scalor Valentis
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 06:39:00 - [241]
 

All cariers shuld have dual comba bonuses, period.


Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 08:25:00 - [242]
 

yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad

Scalor Valentis
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 09:32:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos.

Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Rolling Eyes

Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2006.04.15 10:36:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos.

Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Rolling Eyes


Because they are pretty?Laughing

Give minmatar some love Crying or Very sad

Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2006.04.15 11:40:00 - [245]
 

Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos.

Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Rolling Eyes


Let's all pull numbers out of our arse that are so hypothetical thy make baby jeebus cry.

Scalor Valentis
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 12:16:00 - [246]
 

Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 15/04/2006 13:41:22
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos.

Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Rolling Eyes


Let's all pull numbers out of our arse that are so hypothetical thy make baby jeebus cry.


up the shut frac, troll.

Allerdy carrier manufactorers, like Oberon incorporated and all manufactorers from my alliances report over 60% rate on thanathos from all manufactored carriers.

Its only matter of time before all other train ghaylentte BS lvl 5 and go thanathos if this stupid situation continues.

Also, i took 80% as a hypotetical number cause i was referring "in future" tence. Hense sarcastcly discribing conditios under wich devs might consider reworkking carriers.

Now begone, troll.

Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 12:42:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Hashi Lebwohl
A builder's perspective.

We actually acquired another Thanatos print to meet demand and the Archon has been a good seller. The Chimera has performed ok but not brilliantly, but here we believe it has been the Phoenix, definitely the least popular dreadnaught, which has meant that training for Caldari capital ships has been set back.

The Nidhoggur does not have this excuse, as our Naglfar print is in continual production, and has performed the worst of any of the carriers. Since we commenced building carriers in February we have build only two Nidhoggur, one of which was for a character that only flies Minmatar ships (poor sap!).

Whatever the arguments advanced for this bonus it remains the fact that most carriers are purchased by individuals and very few, I feel, wish to spend 1 billion plus on being a safe spot healer.

I can safely predict that if TomB does a printout of Carriers in game in a year's time the wooden spoon will definitely be the Nidhoggur's by a large margin unless a more sellable bonus is given to the ship.



hey would ya look at that, even the biulders are complaing!

man im geting a feeling they should've called the Nidhoggur, Typhoon Mk2 now 3x more gimped!

Scalor Valentis
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 13:47:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Hashi Lebwohl
A builder's perspective.

We actually acquired another Thanatos print to meet demand and the Archon has been a good seller. The Chimera has performed ok but not brilliantly, but here we believe it has been the Phoenix, definitely the least popular dreadnaught, which has meant that training for Caldari capital ships has been set back.

The Nidhoggur does not have this excuse, as our Naglfar print is in continual production, and has performed the worst of any of the carriers. Since we commenced building carriers in February we have build only two Nidhoggur, one of which was for a character that only flies Minmatar ships (poor sap!).

Whatever the arguments advanced for this bonus it remains the fact that most carriers are purchased by individuals and very few, I feel, wish to spend 1 billion plus on being a safe spot healer.

I can safely predict that if TomB does a printout of Carriers in game in a year's time the wooden spoon will definitely be the Nidhoggur's by a large margin unless a more sellable bonus is given to the ship.



hey would ya look at that, even the biulders are complaing!

man im geting a feeling they should've called the Nidhoggur, Typhoon Mk2 now 3x more gimped!


But hay, acordong some einsteins in this forums its ok!

I mean, its good to have variety, and minmatar bonuses are atualy best in game and all; honesty, its best bonus ever Rolling Eyes

It like, remote repairs; AWESUME 33% less cycletime for allredy prettymuch useless and underused module in game!

/sarcasm off


Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2006.04.15 14:28:00 - [249]
 

Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos.

Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Rolling Eyes


Let's all pull numbers out of our arse that are so hypothetical thy make baby jeebus cry.


kay do you really think that our opinions about the minie carrier are that far off?

Are you training for the minmatar carrier?And if soo for what advantage versus the other races ?



Nifel
PAX Technologies
Posted - 2006.04.15 14:43:00 - [250]
 

It's fun to be smacked by my own alliance members :|. NOT...

If you guys had bothered to read up a bit you'd see I proposed a joint bonus for the minmatar carrier where it got a bonus of cap reduction needs required to run the remote reps/transfers that matched the reduction cycle bonus. I'd also like to see it boosted to 10% reduction per level for a nice 50% reduction in cycle time and cap needed to run the remote reps/transfers.

Next time... don't flame and spam so much but present a clear and consistent argument instead. Jeez...

Scalor Valentis
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 14:49:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos.

Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Rolling Eyes


Let's all pull numbers out of our arse that are so hypothetical thy make baby jeebus cry.


kay do you really think that our opinions about the minie carrier are that far off?

Are you training for the minmatar carrier?And if soo for what advantage versus the other races ?





Actualy, kaylana is claiming that she owns one(minmatar), and "like the bonuses" etc.... and that just increases my doubht abaut her statements.

If you ask me, i think shes just trolling.

Cmd Woodlouse
moon7empler
Ev0ke
Posted - 2006.04.15 14:55:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos.

Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Rolling Eyes


Let's all pull numbers out of our arse that are so hypothetical thy make baby jeebus cry.


actually its pure fact, and it makes ME cry when i see nearly all my minmatar capship mates training gheylente BS to 5 now...

Scalor Valentis
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 15:04:00 - [253]
 

Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 15/04/2006 15:05:51
Originally by: Nifel
It's fun to be smacked by my own alliance members :|. NOT...

If you guys had bothered to read up a bit you'd see I proposed a joint bonus for the minmatar carrier where it got a bonus of cap reduction needs required to run the remote reps/transfers that matched the reduction cycle bonus. I'd also like to see it boosted to 10% reduction per level for a nice 50% reduction in cycle time and cap needed to run the remote reps/transfers.

Next time... don't flame and spam so much but present a clear and consistent argument instead. Jeez...


You dont get it, do you. In how many Fleet ops that you participated, prolly even with me in some, did we ever ever ever used anykind of remote repairing IN COMBAT? (granted, we do remote repairing after batttle with s reppysRazz)
And realy, with the envoirment; Lag lag lag lag lag, you shuld know beter to even begin to sugjest something like that.

Now, if you had sugjested something like this: carrier can remotly repair a guye from SS anywhere in system, just like you assing drones, thats other thing Razz

So lets keep this simpple

No UI and lock interface support:
- No proper Health managment display for 50+ gangmenbers
- No instalock for gangmembers

Module is not balanced for what its intendet:
- Piddly 15km range will not do, you need atleast 100+km range to be any use in fleet.
- Remote repair module's needs to repair instantly and have cooldown period, not at the end of cycle.

Servers arent optimized for this:
- A severe healt displaying lag is still present if ship is taking fire from more than 10 ships, render useless anykind of remote repping.
You need have realtime display of healt if you plan being monk in EVE Neutral

Idea solution to serverside lag is that ships dont explode instantly after Healt = 0, instead you have ~10 seconds time to "save it" by remote repairing, while its in"abaut to explode" mode. This also means that armor repairers also shuld repair strukture.

ArrowThis ofcorse, can potetntioaly tunr EVE fleetbattles into WoW like "rez! Rez! heal! omfg HEALz0r plizz" game. But thats what devs want since they are so horny for remote repping Rolling Eyes

Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 15:19:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: Nifel
It's fun to be smacked by my own alliance members :|. NOT...

If you guys had bothered to read up a bit you'd see I proposed a joint bonus for the minmatar carrier where it got a bonus of cap reduction needs required to run the remote reps/transfers that matched the reduction cycle bonus. I'd also like to see it boosted to 10% reduction per level for a nice 50% reduction in cycle time and cap needed to run the remote reps/transfers.

Next time... don't flame and spam so much but present a clear and consistent argument instead. Jeez...


well we can't but feel ****ed off over this

this should have never happend in the first place
it really feels like the devs just slaped the carriers together to get RMR out, i remeber seeing that moive of the fanfest or what ever, with ovuer going "they will also have XL turrerts" oh look no turrets.

and also when you get morons going on about how "Good" the bonus is, tends to make me see red

we've also made many serjestions to fixing the bonus

bonus to drone tracking
reducion in cap use for arrays
reduction in cap use for cap arrays and cap reps
increced jump range
reduction in fuel use
adding wep hard points ( hey we can dream right?)

id take any of them on the current bonus

there also needs to be changes in the way arrays work and instalocking of gangmates before u may see "medics" durring a fleet fight

Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2006.04.15 16:35:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos.

Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Rolling Eyes


Let's all pull numbers out of our arse that are so hypothetical thy make baby jeebus cry.


kay do you really think that our opinions about the minie carrier are that far off?

Are you training for the minmatar carrier?And if soo for what advantage versus the other races ?





Actualy, kaylana is claiming that she owns one(minmatar), and "like the bonuses" etc.... and that just increases my doubht abaut her statements.

If you ask me, i think shes just trolling.


If that is the case then Crying or Very sad.

The devs will look into it but in a longggggggg time ,i mean just look at the phoon ..




Quote:
If you guys had bothered to read up a bit you'd see I proposed a joint bonus for the minmatar carrier where it got a bonus of cap reduction needs required to run the remote reps/transfers that matched the reduction cycle bonus. I'd also like to see it boosted to 10% reduction per level for a nice 50% reduction in cycle time and cap needed to run the remote reps/transfers.


What is the remote armor transfer range?The Xlarge ones i mean common..

Quote:
It's fun to be smacked by my own alliance members :|. NOT...


Well maybe because the trully minmatar pilots are tired of being the test race?Armor rep bonus to a carrier ?When all the races carriers got pretty bonus we were shafted with some kind of drunken experiment of the devs?ye rigth..

We should dance the kumbayala ,and drink quafe until we reach 90 years..

About them smaking ya ..I can smak ya if you want Laughing

Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2006.04.15 21:28:00 - [256]
 

Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 15/04/2006 13:41:22
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


Now begone, troll.


Its easy to call someone a troll who is just trying to play devils advocate for people who might not agree with the way you are describing combat in EVE. What is said here is not the full picture yet you paint it like it is. So stfu and stop throwing names at people or you are the troll that can emote die m'kay?

Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2006.04.15 21:37:00 - [257]
 

Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 15/04/2006 21:42:03
Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway

maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Mad


yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos.

Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Rolling Eyes


Let's all pull numbers out of our arse that are so hypothetical thy make baby jeebus cry.


kay do you really think that our opinions about the minie carrier are that far off?

Are you training for the minmatar carrier?And if soo for what advantage versus the other races ?





I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it because I trained up dread skills first for a naglfar. Will never use it like you all seem to say it needs to be used. Am training my 2nd account for an Archon and will never use it like you all claim they need to be used.

I don't think your oppinions are that far off in many cases, never said otherwise. I just don't think throwing out absolutes about EVE combat as well as hyperbolic future case scenarios isn't very productive when relaying ideas to the DEVs. Who is to say how the future holds, since obviosly not everyone will fly a Thanatos in a years time. Combat could easily change radically overnight and it is well on its way to another shift as it is.

Sure, if you can get another damage bonus or logistics bonus, or even a Shield Bonus akin to the Cyclone on it then more power to you. But kicking the devs in the box while they are fixing the game, gearing up Kali the true RMR patch, fixing my typhoon, and getting the Chineese servers up to generate more real life ISK just because a ship has a broken or lackluster bonus, however you feel about it... its just stupid.

Getting flamed and called a troll for tossing about a counter argument is pretty funny none the less.


Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.15 23:30:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Kaylana Syi

I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it because I trained up dread skills first for a naglfar. Will never use it like you all seem to say it needs to be used. Am training my 2nd account for an Archon and will never use it like you all claim they need to be used.

I don't think your oppinions are that far off in many cases, never said otherwise. I just don't think throwing out absolutes about EVE combat as well as hyperbolic future case scenarios isn't very productive when relaying ideas to the DEVs. Who is to say how the future holds, since obviosly not everyone will fly a Thanatos in a years time. Combat could easily change radically overnight and it is well on its way to another shift as it is.

Sure, if you can get another damage bonus or logistics bonus, or even a Shield Bonus akin to the Cyclone on it then more power to you. But kicking the devs in the box while they are fixing the game, gearing up Kali the true RMR patch, fixing my typhoon, and getting the Chineese servers up to generate more real life ISK just because a ship has a broken or lackluster bonus, however you feel about it... its just stupid.

Getting flamed and called a troll for tossing about a counter argument is pretty funny none the less.




so how about telling us how you would use it?

enlighten us who know not the correct path


Scalor Valentis
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.16 00:09:00 - [259]
 

Originally by: Kaylana Syi
I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it


this is when i stopped reading.

Now please come back in 2 months, and you will have something solid to back your "visions" of new and wonderful EVE with Monks and palladins. Laughing

Nifel
PAX Technologies
Posted - 2006.04.16 00:54:00 - [260]
 

Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 15/04/2006 15:05:51
Originally by: Nifel
It's fun to be smacked by my own alliance members :|. NOT...

If you guys had bothered to read up a bit you'd see I proposed a joint bonus for the minmatar carrier where it got a bonus of cap reduction needs required to run the remote reps/transfers that matched the reduction cycle bonus. I'd also like to see it boosted to 10% reduction per level for a nice 50% reduction in cycle time and cap needed to run the remote reps/transfers.

Next time... don't flame and spam so much but present a clear and consistent argument instead. Jeez...


You dont get it, do you. In how many Fleet ops that you participated, prolly even with me in some, did we ever ever ever used anykind of remote repairing IN COMBAT? (granted, we do remote repairing after batttle with s reppysRazz)
And realy, with the envoirment; Lag lag lag lag lag, you shuld know beter to even begin to sugjest something like that.

Now, if you had sugjested something like this: carrier can remotly repair a guye from SS anywhere in system, just like you assing drones, thats other thing Razz

So lets keep this simpple

No UI and lock interface support:
- No proper Health managment display for 50+ gangmenbers
- No instalock for gangmembers

Module is not balanced for what its intendet:
- Piddly 15km range will not do, you need atleast 100+km range to be any use in fleet.
- Remote repair module's needs to repair instantly and have cooldown period, not at the end of cycle.

Servers arent optimized for this:
- A severe healt displaying lag is still present if ship is taking fire from more than 10 ships, render useless anykind of remote repping.
You need have realtime display of healt if you plan being monk in EVE Neutral

Idea solution to serverside lag is that ships dont explode instantly after Healt = 0, instead you have ~10 seconds time to "save it" by remote repairing, while its in"abaut to explode" mode. This also means that armor repairers also shuld repair strukture.

ArrowThis ofcorse, can potetntioaly tunr EVE fleetbattles into WoW like "rez! Rez! heal! omfg HEALz0r plizz" game. But thats what devs want since they are so horny for remote repping Rolling Eyes


You get 55km range with carrier 5 iirc. Given that carriers have enough hp not to get instaganked by a semilarge fleet they can remote rep each other to their hearts content. That's what I belive CCP envisioned for them given the fact that only the carriers can control all of the drones, they have quite a bit of hp and a locking time that's only really fit for other capital ships.

But yes... the minmatar carrier bonus sucks donkey ****. Another reason I'm not bothering with capital ships on minnie. Which is a shame because they actually have the coolest looking capital ships :(.

Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2006.04.16 01:45:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Kaylana Syi

I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it because I trained up dread skills first for a naglfar. Will never use it like you all seem to say it needs to be used. Am training my 2nd account for an Archon and will never use it like you all claim they need to be used.

I don't think your oppinions are that far off in many cases, never said otherwise. I just don't think throwing out absolutes about EVE combat as well as hyperbolic future case scenarios isn't very productive when relaying ideas to the DEVs. Who is to say how the future holds, since obviosly not everyone will fly a Thanatos in a years time. Combat could easily change radically overnight and it is well on its way to another shift as it is.

Sure, if you can get another damage bonus or logistics bonus, or even a Shield Bonus akin to the Cyclone on it then more power to you. But kicking the devs in the box while they are fixing the game, gearing up Kali the true RMR patch, fixing my typhoon, and getting the Chineese servers up to generate more real life ISK just because a ship has a broken or lackluster bonus, however you feel about it... its just stupid.

Getting flamed and called a troll for tossing about a counter argument is pretty funny none the less.




so how about telling us how you would use it?

enlighten us who know not the correct path




There is no one correct path. Welcome to the world of EVE Online. Enjoy your stay now that you have the secret to the universe.

And If I told you I'd have to kill you.

Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2006.04.16 01:48:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it


this is when i stopped reading.

Now please come back in 2 months, and you will have something solid to back your "visions" of new and wonderful EVE with Monks and palladins. Laughing


25 days is less than 1 month and I am smart enough and been playing EVE enough to know how to use my ships before I step into them. It is a mobile POS despite the bugs and not much more. If you want to use it as a battleship that is your perogative but don't expect everyone to to swallow that pill.

Scalor Valentis
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.16 01:53:00 - [263]
 

Originally by: Kaylana Syi

25 days is less than 1 month and I am smart enough and been playing EVE enough to know how to use my ships before I step into them. It is a mobile POS despite the bugs and not much more. If you want to use it as a battleship that is your perogative but don't expect everyone to to swallow that pill.


are you dim?

every frekking carrier can do it.

Why chooe the worst to do this?

What are you trying to say here? that that odd 2,5 sec with max skills gona do any good anywhere Question

Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.16 01:53:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Kaylana Syi

I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it because I trained up dread skills first for a naglfar. Will never use it like you all seem to say it needs to be used. Am training my 2nd account for an Archon and will never use it like you all claim they need to be used.

I don't think your oppinions are that far off in many cases, never said otherwise. I just don't think throwing out absolutes about EVE combat as well as hyperbolic future case scenarios isn't very productive when relaying ideas to the DEVs. Who is to say how the future holds, since obviosly not everyone will fly a Thanatos in a years time. Combat could easily change radically overnight and it is well on its way to another shift as it is.

Sure, if you can get another damage bonus or logistics bonus, or even a Shield Bonus akin to the Cyclone on it then more power to you. But kicking the devs in the box while they are fixing the game, gearing up Kali the true RMR patch, fixing my typhoon, and getting the Chineese servers up to generate more real life ISK just because a ship has a broken or lackluster bonus, however you feel about it... its just stupid.

Getting flamed and called a troll for tossing about a counter argument is pretty funny none the less.




so how about telling us how you would use it?

enlighten us who know not the correct path




There is no one correct path. Welcome to the world of EVE Online. Enjoy your stay now that you have the secret to the universe.

And If I told you I'd have to kill you.


pffft

face the truth, the bonus sucks and needs to be changed

Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.17 07:59:00 - [265]
 

my god, i can't beleave no one cares about Crying or Very sad

is this the replacement of the typhoon?

Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2006.04.17 08:58:00 - [266]
 

Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it


this is when i stopped reading.

Now please come back in 2 months, and you will have something solid to back your "visions" of new and wonderful EVE with Monks and palladins. Laughing


25 days is less than 1 month and I am smart enough and been playing EVE enough to know how to use my ships before I step into them. It is a mobile POS despite the bugs and not much more. If you want to use it as a battleship that is your perogative but don't expect everyone to to swallow that pill.


Kay i still remember you from the typhoon threads doing the devil advocate saying that the phoon is uber and ****.

I dont mean to flame here but if you donīt tell us concrete facts for why the minie carriers are better than the galente,caldari or amar,in anny situation i don't relly see the point in doing this crusade to say that the minie carriers kick ass.

Fact is no one is training the minie carrier unless they are masochist Laughing like you and meLaughing

Scalor Valentis
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.17 09:15:00 - [267]
 

Originally by: Aloysius Knight
my god, i can't beleave no one cares about Crying or Very sad

is this the replacement of the typhoon?


The new "fixed" phoon will be nothing more than a toy for Veterans.

It will have dual bonuses, forsing to train 2 if not 3 (drones) weponsystems to be par with geddon and domi. who cna baisikly cope with 1 (domi may be 2 if you insist on hybrids istead vanilla nos)


As i see it, typ0hoon will be either toy for a 3+ year old pilots or another noss mobile with 4 heavy nosses and 4 missile launchers.

Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.17 09:27:00 - [268]
 

Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
my god, i can't beleave no one cares about Crying or Very sad

is this the replacement of the typhoon?


The new "fixed" phoon will be nothing more than a toy for Veterans.

It will have dual bonuses, forsing to train 2 if not 3 (drones) weponsystems to be par with geddon and domi. who cna baisikly cope with 1 (domi may be 2 if you insist on hybrids istead vanilla nos)


As i see it, typ0hoon will be either toy for a 3+ year old pilots or another noss mobile with 4 heavy nosses and 4 missile launchers.


its sad but true

at lest after all that training it'll be something to fear

Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2006.04.17 10:39:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
my god, i can't beleave no one cares about Crying or Very sad

is this the replacement of the typhoon?


The new "fixed" phoon will be nothing more than a toy for Veterans.

It will have dual bonuses, forsing to train 2 if not 3 (drones) weponsystems to be par with geddon and domi. who cna baisikly cope with 1 (domi may be 2 if you insist on hybrids istead vanilla nos)


As i see it, typ0hoon will be either toy for a 3+ year old pilots or another noss mobile with 4 heavy nosses and 4 missile launchers.


its sad but true

at lest after all that training it'll be something to fear


No i'am getting Crying or Very sad about all my ships.

/me hops in the claw and goes to syndicate..

Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.17 11:28:00 - [270]
 

anything fromt he devs would be good

like "we know"

or we're looking into it


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