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Xantina
Lyonesse.
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2006.03.22 12:16:00 - [211]
 

I think the one thing I don't like is that in order to fly this tier 1 BS with some efficiency I almost need more skills than for the tier 2 tempest. This doesn't seem right.

Krige
Eldritch Storm
Posted - 2006.03.22 12:22:00 - [212]
 

Originally by: Xantina
I think the one thing I don't like is that in order to fly this tier 1 BS with some efficiency I almost need more skills than for the tier 2 tempest. This doesn't seem right.


Well, sort of. But I suspect that Scorpion pilots feel the same.

FunkerVogt
Posted - 2006.03.22 12:43:00 - [213]
 

Love my typhoon; I suppose it comes from always favoring the underdog. Anyway, it armor tanks beautifully; the cpu is higher than a tempest, which is nice, considering it's virtually worthless to shield tank if you want anything other than hardeners and a booster + boost amplifier or some form of afterburner. Webber? Waste of space, imo, drones should pick up the slack, considering the drone bay is a strong point. The split layout is disappointing; I agree with most people on that fact. There simply isn't enough grid to make effective use, even with perfect skills - either you have four siege for highest potential or you sac those for artillery. The RoF bonus is nice; the optimal range isn't worth looking at - again, I agree with RoF of missiles is a good idea. Considering it has a little less armor on shield + armor, I think maybe a resist bonus or overall armor bonus would be a nice perk, too.

Testy Mctest
Posted - 2006.03.22 12:46:00 - [214]
 

Originally by: Pesadel0

5% to armor repairer velocity.


Yeh, I hate it when Im shooting armour repairers at people....they take ages before they hit.

Jerusalem Man
Farmers Union
Posted - 2006.03.22 14:24:00 - [215]
 

If they're going to change to a missile rof bonus tidy up the little problems as well:

7.5% projectile & missile rof
swap shield and armour hp
a smidge more pg


and surely the Fleet is researching:

a 5/5 turret/missile split
an extra low (or mid)
an extra 3-4% speed/bs lvl

Question

haq aan
Minmatar
Hauling hogs
Posted - 2006.03.22 17:47:00 - [216]
 

Originally by: Oberon Oblique
Drum roll pls....

Change harpoints to 5/5 insted of 4/4

Bonus:
5% missiles and projetile ROF per lvl
5% velocity bonus per lvl

Its still a flying trashcan, but you can get your funk on!

Say you want it..





This is the BEST SUGGESTION ever ..(i read all ,some said the same or similar also)

PLUS - reduce the Mass
- tweak PG & CPU

Sarmaul
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.03.22 17:53:00 - [217]
 

Originally by: Testy Mctest
Originally by: Pesadel0

5% to armor repairer velocity.


Yeh, I hate it when Im shooting armour repairers at people....they take ages before they hit.


rofl

Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2006.03.22 18:16:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Testy Mctest
Originally by: Pesadel0

5% to armor repairer velocity.


Yeh, I hate it when Im shooting armour repairers at people....they take ages before they hit.


rofl


LaughingNow imagine when i use my arties as rocks

Orvy
Minmatar
Posted - 2006.03.27 16:26:00 - [219]
 

I'd be happy with 7.5% to launcher and projectiles RoF on a typhoon. Or, as it has been mentioned before, the bonus to drone damage and velocity would be welcome.

Valdor Hag
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.04.09 09:36:00 - [220]
 

Looks like this thread is dying a slow death. Yet we do not have any updates from the powers that be,Rolling Eyes since the last comments by Tux on this issue.Shocked So when is it going to happen?Rolling Eyes

I have surrender myself to the fact that I will have to do missiles as well, so scratch getting large arties for now and started training those missiles.Shocked

I would appreciate it, if an expected due date for the changes is announced. That at least, will give us an indication of how long we have to get those missile skills up.ugh

PS. Soon™ just ain’t doing it!Rolling Eyes

Marcus Alkhaar
Ready. Aim. Fire.
Posted - 2006.04.09 10:10:00 - [221]
 

  • null
Originally by: dabster
Split bonuses is ******ED on a ship like Phoon.

Give it rof+dmg bonus to large projectiles, and 5 turrets, ya know, like a PROPER SHIP.


A tempest with 3 nos in highs and better at armor tanking? hm? BOOOORRRIIINNNGGG!

*doesnt fly Matari ships*

Aloysius Knight
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.04.09 11:05:00 - [222]
 

well it also needs more grid not much

just 1-2k more....please?

Lonectzn
Pelennor Swarm
Posted - 2006.04.09 11:07:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Marcus Alkhaar
  • null
Originally by: dabster
Split bonuses is ******ED on a ship like Phoon.

Give it rof+dmg bonus to large projectiles, and 5 turrets, ya know, like a PROPER SHIP.


A tempest with 3 nos in highs and better at armor tanking? hm? BOOOORRRIIINNNGGG!

*doesnt fly Matari ships*


Would be a temp but:

+ 1 nos, 2 heavy drones, low, cpu, speed
- 1 turret, mid, grid, cap, hp.

TBH I think it might possibly be a half decent ship, but not in a way I'd like. Would have grid issues.

CptEagle
Gallente
Genius Inc.
Posted - 2006.04.09 11:18:00 - [224]
 

Typhoon can fit 8 weapons and get a dps bonus to all of them. There is no other battleship that can do the same. Maybe thats an advantage. Question

Tachy
Posted - 2006.04.09 11:33:00 - [225]
 

... paid with lowest locking range and hard cut weapon system separation, along with highest cost of all tier1 bs and the tank using the same slots as the weapon support modules in the low slots that can only improve half of the weapons each.

Oveur is recovering from pneumonia. And he's probably not the only ev with health problems these days.
TomB is in China. He's probably not alone.
Now, why is there nothing going ahead on the game fixing?

Vladimir Sheva
Oberon Incorporated
Prime Orbital Systems
Posted - 2006.04.09 12:01:00 - [226]
 

I just think that CCP have been playing a funny game called "lets screw minie ships" and I dont like it.

Give minie a chance!

Neon Genesis
GoonFleet
Posted - 2006.04.09 12:40:00 - [227]
 

Edited by: Neon Genesis on 09/04/2006 12:40:05
It's pretty simple really.

Split weapon types/bonuses is pointblank WORSE than a more polarised set of bonuses and slots, like the mega or tempest.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2006.04.09 13:05:00 - [228]
 

Originally by: Neon Genesis
Edited by: Neon Genesis on 09/04/2006 12:40:05
It's pretty simple really.

Split weapon types/bonuses is pointblank WORSE than a more polarised set of bonuses and slots, like the mega or tempest.


I wouldnt mind the split weapon system if it actually gave some advantages that the other ships doesnt have. The training required to master tech 2 missiles, tech 2 projectiles and tech 2 drones is huge. So it would be fair if all this training gave some advantages that, for example, a 4 month Raven pilot doesnt have.

Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2006.04.09 13:19:00 - [229]
 

Originally by: CptEagle
Typhoon can fit 8 weapons and get a dps bonus to all of them. There is no other battleship that can do the same. Maybe thats an advantage. Question


Hum ?Get to fit 8 weapons but the bonus only aplly to 4 Wink..

Karazack
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2006.04.09 13:20:00 - [230]
 

Edited by: Karazack on 09/04/2006 13:21:07
Edited by: Karazack on 09/04/2006 13:20:18
first 2 things should be adressed independent of the ships boni:

- switch armor and shield hp amount
- reduce costs by 10 Mio to bring it in line with other tier1
bs

now for the boni:
1. +5% RoF for both missile AND guns / lvl
(keep 4/4 slot layout ofc)

for second bonus sth like:
- +5% Drone Damage / lvl
(large drone bay IS sth phoon specific after all)
or
- +5% velocity/lvl (speed is sth phoon specific also)
or
- +5% nos and neut effectiveness / lvl Twisted Evil
or
- 5% less penalty to max capacitor for MWDs (speed again)

there: balanced ship, different role then tempest

Eximius Josari
New Atlantis Tek Corporation
Posted - 2006.04.09 17:17:00 - [231]
 

I think the Typhoon is great lol...even tho Im flying Amarr now >.>


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