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Morgen Kell
Posted - 2006.03.07 03:37:00 - [1]
 

I've been to all types of Space in EVE from 1.0 to 0.0
And most System's have people there saying they own that System
and they either tell you nicely or aggresively to get out! or join there Corp if you plain on staying (or basically they grief you for as long as it takes or can)

To the people mentioned, you are pathetic sad little infants
with a brain of a 4yr old and I can't understand how
Mummy & Daddy let you even near there PC.

Grow Up

Dust Angel
Harvest System
Posted - 2006.03.07 03:40:00 - [2]
 

Welcome to eve. Theres plenty of space... over 5000 systems in the cluster. Its not hard to branch out.

Vendrin
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.03.07 03:41:00 - [3]
 

lol. There is a little thing called Sovereignty. Before you tell them grow up, learn about the game.

Now if you want to contest there Sovereignty go ahead. But some corps and espicially the bigger alliances can certainly enforce their claim of ownership.

GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2006.03.07 03:49:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Vendrin
lol. There is a little thing called Sovereignty. Before you tell them grow up, learn about the game.
I believe he's referring to hotshots who post "leave our turf or die" billboard cans in 0.2 space.

Filan
Caldari
Posted - 2006.03.07 03:50:00 - [5]
 

0.0 is claimable, empire space on the other hand is just someone trying to strongarm people out.

Naleb Cilani
Caldari
Posted - 2006.03.07 03:59:00 - [6]
 

What kind of space are we exactly talking about here? Empire or 0.0?

gfldex
Posted - 2006.03.07 04:07:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Filan
0.0 is claimable, empire space on the other hand is just someone trying to strongarm people out.


Can you back your claim with arguments please?

If some party has the power to kick you out they has the power to do so. That's the whole point in power. To force somebody to do something.

Luckyly EVE is not a sandbox where your parents sit at the side and protect you. You have to and _are_able_to_ fight for your rights.

Culmen
Caldari
Culmenation
Posted - 2006.03.07 04:12:00 - [8]
 

0.0 space is claimble, it is claimed with POSs
since POSs = Soverignty in 0.0, im not surprised a few corps would consider building a POS in 0.2 space tantamount to owning the system
afterall, they've sunk in alot of ISK building that POS, they had better guard it jelously
and that includes ganking every single potential spy coming their way

Rawne Karrde
Bre-X Interstellar Shipyards
Ejectile Dysfunction
Posted - 2006.03.07 04:18:00 - [9]
 

Just because its "empire" space doesn't mean that a corp will like to see you treading on their sphere or influence. It even seems these days that "carebears" are feeling the pinch because of all the clustering. Some production corps might not like some other corp coming into their sphere of influence and strip mining the area.

Thats whats great about eve, if you got the power to keep people out then you can "own" a system. I saw a thread about carebear on carebear hate.. it seems to finally be going to the next lvl. You wanna mine their and they say no, mine anyway, make them war dec you, or heck war dec them yourself and make it a surrender condition or something. Lots and lots of options here.

Ghoest
Posted - 2006.03.07 04:20:00 - [10]
 

If you claim to be the King of France - you are the King of France - until someone slaps you up side the peas in your corn flakes.

Vishnej
Demonic Retribution
Pure.
Posted - 2006.03.07 04:22:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Morgen Kell
I've been to all types of Space in EVE from 1.0 to 0.0
And most System's have people there saying they own that System
and they either tell you nicely or aggresively to get out! or join there Corp if you plain on staying (or basically they grief you for as long as it takes or can)

To the people mentioned, you are pathetic sad little infants
with a brain of a 4yr old and I can't understand how
Mummy & Daddy let you even near there PC.

Grow Up


This is a competitive game. 0.0 space is a highly valued resource. There is a permissable PvP system so that people can fight to defend certain systems if they want.

None of this is an accident. CCP's philosophy is that players are the most interesting thing in an MMO - the politics, blood feuds, and friendships that form over battling for a scarce resource are what creates the social atmosphere of the game. If you don't like it, stick to Empire and run missions alone - or for a better PvE experience, go play WoW.

Juki Lee
Posted - 2006.03.07 04:57:00 - [12]
 

I claim Rens. Everybody out! YARRRR!!

Corp Scammer
Posted - 2006.03.07 05:02:00 - [13]
 

the original poster hasnt responded hence can be discounted

Oventoasted
Fleetworks
The Spire Collective
Posted - 2006.03.07 05:03:00 - [14]
 

wait did i kill you morgan? cuz i say that to all the people who i find ratting/mining in my system.

ill need to look through my kill mails.Wink

o and btw stay the hell outta my system.Very Happy

Rachel McCloud
Posted - 2006.03.07 05:19:00 - [15]
 

Corp Scammer
Just responding Smile

Morgen Kell
Posted - 2006.03.07 05:30:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Morgen Kell on 07/03/2006 05:31:21
Quote:
This is a competitive game. 0.0 space is a highly valued resource. There is a permissable PvP system so that people can fight to defend certain systems if they want.

None of this is an accident. CCP's philosophy is that players are the most interesting thing in an MMO - the politics, blood feuds, and friendships that form over battling for a scarce resource are what creates the social atmosphere of the game. If you don't like it, stick to Empire and run missions alone - or for a better PvE experience, go play WoW.


Now this is a mature response
It has everything and more in an Inteligent Manner (and I don't care that I can't spell :P
She even tells me other Online games to seek out
if ever need to.
I knew a cool response would come sooner or later
but this one was more than I expected
Thx for that Vishnej *smiles*

Kin Falo
Posted - 2006.03.07 05:38:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Morgen Kell
Edited by: Morgen Kell on 07/03/2006 05:31:21
Quote:
This is a competitive game. 0.0 space is a highly valued resource. There is a permissable PvP system so that people can fight to defend certain systems if they want.

None of this is an accident. CCP's philosophy is that players are the most interesting thing in an MMO - the politics, blood feuds, and friendships that form over battling for a scarce resource are what creates the social atmosphere of the game. If you don't like it, stick to Empire and run missions alone - or for a better PvE experience, go play WoW.


Now this is a mature response
It has everything and more in an Inteligent Manner (and I don't care that I can't spell :P
She even tells me other Online games to seek out
if ever need to.
I knew a cool response would come sooner or later
but this one was more than I expected
Thx for that Vishnej *smiles*


Are you for real?

Vishnej
Demonic Retribution
Pure.
Posted - 2006.03.07 05:52:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Vishnej on 07/03/2006 05:55:26
Originally by: Morgen Kell

Quote:
This is a competitive game. 0.0 space is a highly valued resource. There is a permissable PvP system so that people can fight to defend certain systems if they want.

None of this is an accident. CCP's philosophy is that players are the most interesting thing in an MMO - the politics, blood feuds, and friendships that form over battling for a scarce resource are what creates the social atmosphere of the game. If you don't like it, stick to Empire and run missions alone - or for a better PvE experience, go play WoW.


Now this is a mature response
It has everything and more in an Inteligent Manner (and I don't care that I can't spell :P
She even tells me other Online games to seek out
if ever need to.
I knew a cool response would come sooner or later
but this one was more than I expected
Thx for that Vishnej *smiles*


Um.... Thank you?

Anyway, I look forward to podding you next time you enter Tribute. Not because I'm a pirate, not because I take pleasure in others' suffering, not because I directly gain anything from it, and not because I'm a pathetic sad little infant with the brain of a 4yr old who can't form complete sentences or understand how a PvP game works. Because it's mine, damnit.

David Corbett
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.03.07 05:53:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Morgen Kell
I've been to all types of Space in EVE from 1.0 to 0.0
And most System's have people there saying they own that System
and they either tell you nicely or aggresively to get out! or join there Corp if you plain on staying (or basically they grief you for as long as it takes or can)

To the people mentioned, you are pathetic sad little infants
with a brain of a 4yr old and I can't understand how
Mummy & Daddy let you even near there PC.

Grow Up


The irony in this post is staggering.

Manion Taleroth
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.03.07 06:05:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Manion Taleroth on 07/03/2006 06:06:43
I've seen you hanging out in a station out in our neck of the woods.

*wave*

edited to seem less inflamatory

Lythius Arcturnus
Posted - 2006.03.07 06:12:00 - [21]
 

I don't have a problem with corps claiming 3 or 4 systems, what irritates the hell out of me are the ones that try to claim the 300 systems behind their one choke point system that they actually have members in reliably.

As a corp its just silly to try to claim a chokepoint system, and then tell people to get out when they are just passing through to try to get 15 jumps behind the system your in.

Its also silly to claim 300 systems behind said chokepoint when you know good and well know that no one from your own corp will ever actually use %98 of those systems.

I have no problem respecting corporations claims on territory, but not when its a chokepoint system or one of the 300 behind it.

The whole concept of chokepoint systems just infuriates me. You have all that dead space back there that alot of people would actually LOVE to use, but you can never get to it because one corp lives in the chokepoint system and claims it and everything behind it, not because they use it, but because they can since that system is one of the only ways in.

Take as much space as your gunna use, but don't claim 300 systems just because its convenient because you control one of the only routes into it. In essence the only system you really have a "claim" to is the camped system, and any other systems where you REGULARLY have members doing stuff.

Just my 2 isk.

Morgen Kell
Posted - 2006.03.07 06:38:00 - [22]
 

Quote:
Anyway, I look forward to podding you next time you enter Tribute. Not because I'm a pirate, not because I take pleasure in others' suffering, not because I directly gain anything from it, and not because I'm a pathetic sad little infant with the brain of a 4yr old who can't form complete sentences or understand how a PvP game works. Because it's mine, damnit.


Umm... o...k...

Anyways, I don't care how many people think this thread is weird, Vishnej's Post won me lunch *smiles*
And I'm sure you's know what the bet was.

Sooo... To add to this Topic that I so happly posted
and found out who to take seriously and who not in these future threads in the General Forum.
Join the EVE Development Team, create a system all on your own and then I'll sit back and listen to you Claim that it's yours and agree *smiles*
I can't get more truthful than this
Sorry guys *frowns* but you own nothing

Culmen
Caldari
Culmenation
Posted - 2006.03.07 06:50:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Morgen Kell
Quote:
Anyway, I look forward to podding you next time you enter Tribute. Not because I'm a pirate, not because I take pleasure in others' suffering, not because I directly gain anything from it, and not because I'm a pathetic sad little infant with the brain of a 4yr old who can't form complete sentences or understand how a PvP game works. Because it's mine, damnit.


Umm... o...k...

Anyways, I don't care how many people think this thread is weird, Vishnej's Post won me lunch *smiles*
And I'm sure you's know what the bet was.

Sooo... To add to this Topic that I so happly posted
and found out who to take seriously and who not in these future threads in the General Forum.
Join the EVE Development Team, create a system all on your own and then I'll sit back and listen to you Claim that it's yours and agree *smiles*
I can't get more truthful than this
Sorry guys *frowns* but you own nothing


Technically, none of us own anything.
CCP owns everything in eve
but in game some corps can selectively deny resorces to others, they can be said to own that said resource
its jsut the way ownership works, in the real world, the strength of law define what resources we can deny to other
since there is no law in 0.0-0.4, it is left to the strength of our guns to define ownership
though you can argue that custom might define ownership, that ownership is a puerly cultural thing
the fact is that eve culture lets corps do this, and you frankly are relatively inexperienced in said culture

you are very much welcomed to rant and rave about how its un fair, you are very much welcomed to try storm Feythabolis,
for the resources you claim belong to everyone. But for the former, we have the right to disagree with your points,
and for the latter we have the right, and more importantly the ability, to destroy your ship, and send you back to the clone bay
Without getting a single unit of veld

We shall hold what we claim

Morgen Kell
Posted - 2006.03.07 06:51:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Vishnej
Originally by: Kin Falo
Are you for real?

Guess not.


???

Vishnej, why are you being all weird about this
Your Original post was great and I commented a possitive
response to it.



Morgen Kell
Posted - 2006.03.07 06:54:00 - [25]
 

Culmen, Nps to what you say here *smiles*

Culmen
Caldari
Culmenation
Posted - 2006.03.07 07:03:00 - [26]
 

BTW morgen

heres a good map of what alliance claims what region
Map
Map thread
its a good general overveiw of who owns what

Morgen Kell
Posted - 2006.03.07 07:05:00 - [27]
 

Well thx for coming people, hope to see you all again soon *smiles*
Off to go play EVE now, I'm sure I've made a few buddys...
Ummm... Enemys from this Thread, But Hey! It's a General Chat after all Don't Ya Think!?.... *crickets* ...

ta ta *waves*smiles*


Morgen Kell
Posted - 2006.03.07 07:06:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Culmen
BTW morgen

heres a good map of what alliance claims what region
Map
Map thread
its a good general overveiw of who owns what


Woops! Thx for that Culem *smiles*

Tony Fats
Posted - 2006.03.07 07:18:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Morgen Kell
I've been to all types of Space in EVE from 1.0 to 0.0
And most System's have people there saying they own that System
and they either tell you nicely or aggresively to get out! or join there Corp if you plain on staying (or basically they grief you for as long as it takes or can)

To the people mentioned, you are pathetic sad little infants
with a brain of a 4yr old and I can't understand how
Mummy & Daddy let you even near there PC.

Grow Up


Competition is something we adults do, thats why there's war, and elections, and hostile takeovers.

Either drink your milk and grow up fast or go play WoW at the children's table.

Run along now boy.

Exile Devaltos
Caldari
Ministry of Destruction
SCUM.
Posted - 2006.03.07 07:18:00 - [30]
 

ASCN owns 20 - 30 odd systems, does that make us bad?Crying or Very sad


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