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Stro3der
Minmatar
Corp 21
Posted - 2006.03.02 09:58:00 - [1]
 

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Megacyte prices where over 10k isk per unit early on in the game. Now they are the same price as zydrine, which incidentaly doesnt seem to have moved in price Shocked and other minerals seem to have increased in value ShockedShocked

Just wondering if anyone has any opinions or explanations as to why this has happened ???

Morkalum Takor
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.03.02 10:01:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Morkalum Takor on 02/03/2006 10:01:46
Easier to mine now than before. (Better mining skills and mining ships)

More people out in 0.0.

Belt Rats are much more easier to kill than ever in 0.0.(Less defense needed)

Pretty much sums it up.


Chai N'Dorr
Selectus Pravus Lupus
Posted - 2006.03.02 10:14:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Stro3der
Megacyte prices where over 10k isk per unit early on in the game. Now they are the same price as zydrine, which incidentaly doesnt seem to have moved in price Shocked and other minerals seem to have increased in value ShockedShocked

Just wondering if anyone has any opinions or explanations as to why this has happened ???


Well, truely early on it was much cheaper... just the NPC price Wink. The rise of mega to 10k+ was due to several factors: spawns in 0.0 became horribly bad after one patch. People lost their ships left and right, which resulted in more demand for new ships on one hand and less folks (able or willing to) mining in 0.0. I also believe there was a bit of a cartel out there buying all and selling high.

Originally by: Morkalum Takor

Easier to mine now than before. (Better mining skills and mining ships)

More people out in 0.0.

Belt Rats are much more easier to kill than ever in 0.0.(Less defense needed)

Pretty much sums it up.



By that explanation, zyd should drop as well as mega has... which it hasn't. So there must be another factor. Perhaps the same cartel that was behind the mega-shortage (or iso-shortage at a later time).

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.03.02 10:33:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Stro3der
Megacyte prices where over 10k isk per unit early on in the game. Now they are the same price as zydrine, which incidentaly doesnt seem to have moved in price Shocked and other minerals seem to have increased in value ShockedShocked

Just wondering if anyone has any opinions or explanations as to why this has happened ???


Mega was originally 4096/unit. Zydrine originally was 1024/unit.

Any more questions abouit price fluctuations? :)

Frensezz
Amarr
Agents UnderCover
Posted - 2006.03.02 10:46:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Stro3der
Megacyte prices where over 10k isk per unit early on in the game. Now they are the same price as zydrine, which incidentaly doesnt seem to have moved in price Shocked and other minerals seem to have increased in value ShockedShocked

Just wondering if anyone has any opinions or explanations as to why this has happened ???


Every mineral in eve has droped alot Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad

bumcheekcity
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.03.02 10:57:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Frensezz
Originally by: Stro3der
Megacyte prices where over 10k isk per unit early on in the game. Now they are the same price as zydrine, which incidentaly doesnt seem to have moved in price Shocked and other minerals seem to have increased in value ShockedShocked

Just wondering if anyone has any opinions or explanations as to why this has happened ???


Every mineral in eve has droped alot Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad


Except, fron the post above, Zydrine...

Corp Scammer
Posted - 2006.03.02 11:01:00 - [7]
 

new items with different mineral requirements - outpost and other building changes - market fluctiations. The market economy at work i see.

Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.03.02 18:27:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: bumcheekcity
Originally by: Frensezz
Originally by: Stro3der
Megacyte prices where over 10k isk per unit early on in the game. Now they are the same price as zydrine, which incidentaly doesnt seem to have moved in price Shocked and other minerals seem to have increased in value ShockedShocked

Just wondering if anyone has any opinions or explanations as to why this has happened ???


Every mineral in eve has droped alot Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad


Except, fron the post above, Zydrine...


Did zydrine ever actually trade at 1024/unit?

BoinKlasik
Senkei Jin
Posted - 2006.03.02 18:43:00 - [9]
 

Id put it that you can get high yields of mega (ratio wise) while most production of ships and modules takes a very small ammount of mega to actually build. I bet that is what has balanced out the two prices honestly. Its not supply, the roids give smaller yields of mega habitually than zyd but since mega is needed less... well then :)

Harry Voyager
Jolly Codgers
Posted - 2006.03.02 18:52:00 - [10]
 

Zydrine is only moderately less difficult to mine than Megacyte, and in much higher demand. Thus, the supply of Zydrine is a roughly the same constriction, relative to demand, and the supply of Megacyte.

Actually, I think there is something of a surplus in Megacyte production, just NPC buy orders keep the price high.

Harry Voyager

Snake Jankins
Minmatar
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
Posted - 2006.03.02 19:01:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Snake Jankins on 02/03/2006 19:01:25
Originally by: Harry Voyager
Zydrine is only moderately less difficult to mine than Megacyte, and in much higher demand. Thus, the supply of Zydrine is a roughly the same constriction, relative to demand, and the supply of Megacyte.

think that's true
Originally by: Harry Voyager

Actually, I think there is something of a surplus in Megacyte production, just NPC buy orders keep the price high.


Maybe, otherwise it's the Zydrine price itself that stops the Megacyte price to fall even further. I think, if you're able to mine for Megacyte in your area, you can also mine for Zydrine there. Think that's true but I'm not a miner. So if the Megacyte price is too low, people mine less of it and more Ore that contains a lot of Zydrine, so the Megacyte price stays at a certain level that depends on the Zydrine price.

Malthros Zenobia
Posted - 2006.03.02 22:45:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Harry Voyager
Zydrine is only moderately less difficult to mine than Megacyte, and in much higher demand. Thus, the supply of Zydrine is a roughly the same constriction, relative to demand, and the supply of Megacyte.

Actually, I think there is something of a surplus in Megacyte production, just NPC buy orders keep the price high.

Harry Voyager


I'd have to agree with both of the above. It's easier for me to get zy than mega, but I need much less mega when i make a ship, and almost every piece of mega I sold in my first month or so on EVE, was bought by the Caldari Navy.

Sarai Atvar
The Scope
Posted - 2006.03.02 22:48:00 - [13]
 

It's funny, but in Curse, high-end minerals are more expensive, on average, than in empire space.

hired goon
Posted - 2006.03.02 23:30:00 - [14]
 

What in gods name are you all taling about? Zydrine not dropping in price!?

It's the only one I've seen drop! From 4.5 to 3.6 after one lovely patch. Neutral

Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.03.03 00:10:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: hired goon
What in gods name are you all taling about? Zydrine not dropping in price!?

It's the only one I've seen drop! From 4.5 to 3.6 after one lovely patch. Neutral

You haven't seen tritanium drop from 3.5 to 1.8, or pyerite from 8 to 4.5, or mexallon from 28 to 14, or isogen from 160 to 120, or nocxium from 400 to 300? Laughing

Marcus Tedric
Gallente
Tedric Enterprises
Crimson Steel Empire
Posted - 2006.03.03 09:05:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Harry Voyager
Zydrine is only moderately less difficult to mine than Megacyte, and in much higher demand. Thus, the supply of Zydrine is a roughly the same constriction, relative to demand, and the supply of Megacyte.

Actually, I think there is something of a surplus in Megacyte production, just NPC buy orders keep the price high.

Harry Voyager


There aren't any NPC orders anymore - the minerals market is now totally player driven...Very Happy

hired goon
Posted - 2006.03.03 10:26:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: hired goon
What in gods name are you all taling about? Zydrine not dropping in price!?

It's the only one I've seen drop! From 4.5 to 3.6 after one lovely patch. Neutral

You haven't seen tritanium drop from 3.5 to 1.8, or pyerite from 8 to 4.5, or mexallon from 28 to 14, or isogen from 160 to 120, or nocxium from 400 to 300? Laughing


No... why would I care about those minerals? They're crap.

Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.03.03 10:44:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: hired goon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: hired goon
What in gods name are you all taling about? Zydrine not dropping in price!?

It's the only one I've seen drop! From 4.5 to 3.6 after one lovely patch. Neutral

You haven't seen tritanium drop from 3.5 to 1.8, or pyerite from 8 to 4.5, or mexallon from 28 to 14, or isogen from 160 to 120, or nocxium from 400 to 300? Laughing


No... why would I care about those minerals? They're crap.

So your battleship is built out of pure megacyte?

FireFoxx80
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.03.03 11:12:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Dark Shikari
So your battleship is built out of pure megacyte?


Yup, it's vehhy shiny Very Happy

Dark Shikari
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.03.03 11:41:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: FireFoxx80
Originally by: Dark Shikari
So your battleship is built out of pure megacyte?


Yup, it's vehhy shiny Very Happy


Originally by: Item DB

An extremely rare mineral found in comets and very occasionally in asteroids that have traveled through gas clouds. Has unique explosive traits that make it very valuable in the armaments industry.


Better be careful not to get shot by anyone then... BOOM! Laughing

Rawne Karrde
Bre-X Interstellar Shipyards
Ejectile Dysfunction
Posted - 2006.03.03 12:59:00 - [21]
 

I remember back in the day selling megacyte for 14k pu but the zydrine i was lucky to get like 900 pu for... was certainly a different time in eve.

madhapee
Amarr
Big Guns Inc.
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2006.03.03 18:58:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: madhapee on 03/03/2006 18:58:22
easy, macro mining is impossible in 0.0

therefore the prices of the 0.0 minerals are more stable. which is a good thing.

death to all macro - miners ;)! Twisted Evil

Mallik Hendrake
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.03.04 17:25:00 - [23]
 

The problems with megacyte's price is:
arkonor!

Yay! Unlike Arkonor, Bistot has a balanced mix of Zyd/Mega. If Arkonor didn't exist, and you had to choose to get your mega from either Spod or Bistot, the price for Mega would be correct.

However, some idiot dev had the brainfart to put in a mineral that is easily mined in various very popular mining locations that has a way out of whack ratio and wasn't any more difficult to mine than Crokite or Bistot.

So, here we have megacyte being worthless. Hooray!

In'Nala
Path of Now and Forever
Posted - 2006.03.06 22:57:00 - [24]
 

The prices of zydrine and megacyte are most readily explained by war. During peaceful times in the north, zydrine has dropped as low as 3500.

A comparison of northern and southern stability and thus ore availability to carebears will quickly explain comparative price changes between the two high end mins.


 

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