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Beringe
Caldari
Mercurialis Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.23 05:35:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Killer Gandry

May I inform you that the boardrooms are far from dark. The State certainly can afford good lighting.


Quite. But let's not split hairs, shall we?

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2006.02.23 12:58:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Beringe
Originally by: Killer Gandry

May I inform you that the boardrooms are far from dark. The State certainly can afford good lighting.


Quite. But let's not split hairs, shall we?


Sir, you are in dire need of help.

Which hair do I HAVE to split?


Narciss Sevar
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.02.23 18:49:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Any good Caldari would know the state only limits you and slows down your progress


Several millenia of growth and prosper as well as the State's current superiority over all in the cluster would prove you wrong.



What has the state done for you since you became a pod pilot? Despite ask you to fight and police territory they should be policing themselves?

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Howdy Narciss. Your boys still stirring up trouble in the Nalvula - HW pipe? I certainly hope so.


We have buisness opertunitys all over eve. So don't be suprised to see a snigg pop up anywhere. Wink

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You could care less about the State becuase they don't look out for the little man, Narciss? Is that what drove you to piracy? Or perhaps it was something far more personal than that...


The caldari state barred me from entering the states core systems despite me not killing 1 ship unlawfully in the caldari state, not even taking my service in CAIN to account. I have since lost many friends to the states brainwashing. Since then, i have had to deal with some people i thought to be unsavoury characters, but they and the state have shown me the real reality of the situation.

Halunoto Vankaalen
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2006.02.23 18:56:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Narciss Sevar
What has the state done for you since you became a pod pilot? Despite ask you to fight and police territory they should be policing themselves?


It's given me a home, a source of work and income and plenty of things to keep me entertained.

It's provided a cause to dedicate my life to, and keep hold of my honor, a quality you seem to be unaware of.

Being barred from the Core Systems is for good reason. I know not what you did to cause this, but the Navy obvieously viewed you as a threat.

Gavin Paradise
Alien Ruffneck Force
Ignes Immortalis
Posted - 2006.02.23 19:33:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Gavin Paradise on 23/02/2006 19:34:24
Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
What has the state done for you since you became a pod pilot? Despite ask you to fight and police territory they should be policing themselves?


It's given me a home, a source of work and income and plenty of things to keep me entertained.

It's provided a cause to dedicate my life to, and keep hold of my honor, a quality you seem to be unaware of.

Being barred from the Core Systems is for good reason. I know not what you did to cause this, but the Navy obvieously viewed you as a threat.


Well, look at is this way... the State, as I have insinuated before, is simply a means to an end for most of us. It's a great source of income and early employment opportunities, however, due to the sheer volume of pod pilots flying for the Navy and other Caldari corporations these days, the State can afford to be far too strict regarding the availablility of flightpaths for certain citizens. Why should they care if what Narciss did to get the boot didn't directally affect the State in any way? They have a wealth of new jarheads to kick around as soon as he's out.

So where is the middle ground? I'm tellin' you now, there isn't any. 0.0 is the future, regardless of whether you're a pirate, a merc, a slaver or an industrialist. Well... maybe not slavers. I firmly believe that the old empires are little more than training grounds for us. In terms of their impact on frontier politics... it's all but a distant memory.

EDIT - /coughs. looks at his hands. looks surprised, then turns away.

Narciss Sevar
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.02.23 19:50:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
What has the state done for you since you became a pod pilot? Despite ask you to fight and police territory they should be policing themselves?


It's given me a home, a source of work and income and plenty of things to keep me entertained.

It's provided a cause to dedicate my life to, and keep hold of my honor, a quality you seem to be unaware of.

Being barred from the Core Systems is for good reason. I know not what you did to cause this, but the Navy obvieously viewed you as a threat.
Does your 'income' come from the state or from concord set bountys, i'm not sure. One thing i am sure of is that they keep cutting the bountys and asking even more impossible tasks for minor rewards.

Gavin is right that the future is in lawless space, where you make your own fortunes. Not those measly crums the state feeds you. And as for honour, i've never broken my word, the state turned its back on me, ca la vie.

Malthros Zenobia
Posted - 2006.02.23 20:20:00 - [37]
 

The State pays me quite wel for the dogtags of the Gallente and Republic ships I destroy. Probably around the same rate I get paid by CONCORD for bounties I collect while dealing with the Guristas for the State.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2006.02.23 23:15:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Narciss Sevar
The caldari state barred me from entering the states core systems despite me not killing 1 ship unlawfully in the caldari state, not even taking my service in CAIN to account. I have since lost many friends to the states brainwashing. Since then, i have had to deal with some people i thought to be unsavoury characters, but they and the state have shown me the real reality of the situation.


Just to set a few things clear.

In the passt there were 4 factions mainly clashing with eachother.
After billions of deaths and a lot of war and destruction there was a sort of peace. However there was the thing of those that acted lawless and an Amarr being held accountable by a Minmatar for crimes would be unheared off by the Religious uhm... driven.
Allso a Caldari being held accountable by a Gallente would set new sparks to more violence.

So the big factions decided there was need of an impartial police force.
Founded on the bases of all 4 major factions the new police form was created and called Concorde.
Rules and regulations were set and agreed upon by all.

Now if you are barred form Caldari space and allso space from other races for actions against humanity then you violated rules the State agreed upon aswell.

You can redeem yourself offcourse, but as easy as it was to become a risk in secure space. It will be hard to be able to enter the civilisation again.

So if you think you need to get back to the craddle of civilisation you will have to put effort to it.

If you dont want to put effort to it then your need to be a respectable meber of the State again isn't as heartfelt as you let it seem here.


Halunoto Vankaalen
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2006.02.24 04:05:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Halunoto Vankaalen on 24/02/2006 04:07:12
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Does your 'income' come from the state or from concord set bountys, i'm not sure. One thing i am sure of is that they keep cutting the bountys and asking even more impossible tasks for minor rewards.

Gavin is right that the future is in lawless space, where you make your own fortunes. Not those measly crums the state feeds you. And as for honour, i've never broken my word, the state turned its back on me, ca la vie.


It comes from the rare items I'm given great deals for by my agent, and the payment he sets for the work I undertake.

Also, if the future is really in lawless space then why is it a near-wasteland? Activities out there are limited to guarding resources used to build fleets to guard/utilise said resources.

The existing corporations within 0.0 have not even passed a shade of the existing strength and might of the Empires.

Originally by: Gavin Paradise
In terms of their impact on frontier politics... it's all but a distant memory.


The ships you produce, the pilots you recruit. All Empire born and raised/designed. Your words might be correct when the ISS starts producing ships of it's own design, but I have see nothing like it, except copies of Empire designs.

Narciss, the State gave you your pod-piloting abilities, you squander them on piracy instead of benefitting the State so don't dare accuse the State of turning it's back on you. Never breaking your word? I find that hard to believe, a pirate with honor is a rare thing.

It's not hard to see why you left CAIN in the first place traitor. Rolling Eyes

Gavin Paradise
Alien Ruffneck Force
Ignes Immortalis
Posted - 2006.02.24 06:38:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen

Also, if the future is really in lawless space then why is it a near-wasteland?



I take it you haven't been to south, north, east or western 0.0 territories anytime lately have you? Because if by "wasteland" you mean "area teeming with some of our galaxy's most elite combatants, largest ships (which are not permitted inside Empire space by the way), and established mineral extraction specialists who supply developing markets"... then you are absolutely correct.

Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen

Activities out there are limited to guarding resources used to build fleets to guard/utilise said resources.



Yes... but I can also make a blunt, hollow comment about life inside Empire space too:

Empire pvp is little more than pirates shooting at carebears who can barely speak and a horde of promissing warriors who are unfortunately locked into an eternal conflict which is about 90% verbal because existing Empire poilitical and social constraints prevent any of them from actually moving their boarders forward.

My statement is neither accurate nor appropriate, so what was the point in me saying anything at all?

Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen

The existing corporations within 0.0 have not even passed a shade of the existing strength and might of the Empires.



I never said anything about military or economic strength. I said that 0.0 was not heavily influenced by Empire politics.

Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen

The ships you produce, the pilots you recruit. All Empire born and raised/designed. Your words might be correct when the ISS starts producing ships of it's own design, but I have see nothing like it, except copies of Empire designs.



Again, I said nothing about ships or blueprints or equiptment. I'm talking about political influence... but while we're on the subject... why are you so convinced that the technology has anything to do with who it belongs to? Or even who developed it? It's how you use it that matters.

Our Guerista friends in their Gilas know all about that. YARRRR!!

Halunoto Vankaalen
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2006.02.24 06:52:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Halunoto Vankaalen on 24/02/2006 06:53:09
Originally by: Gavin Paradise
I take it you haven't been to south, north, east or western 0.0 territories anytime lately have you? Because if by "wasteland" you mean "area teeming with some of our galaxy's most elite combatants, largest ships (which are not permitted inside Empire space by the way), and established mineral extraction specialists who supply developing markets"... then you are absolutely correct.


I'm talking about population. Open your map and check it, where does it glow brightest? And my comments of a wasteland were directed to the severe lack of stations in such regions. I understand your Alliance is working to fix that, and I commend you on your originality and good sense but I think the self-serving policies of many Alliances out there truly hinder growth in 0.0

Originally by: Gavin Paradise
My statement is neither accurate nor appropriate, so what was the point in me saying anything at all?


True, the same applies for my comment really.

And as for politics, don't be so sure. If you think the GNW was big think of the possibility of the Empires going to war, it will greatly affect every pod-pilot. For better or worse.

Originally by: Gavin Paradise
Again, I said nothing about ships or blueprints or equiptment. I'm talking about political influence... but while we're on the subject... why are you so convinced that the technology has anything to do with who it belongs to? Or even who developed it? It's how you use it that matters.


You talk of the State as a means, to an "end".

Presumably the State is left out of the equation in this "end".

My question to you is, how could current 0.0 Alliances function without the current Empires?

Loimbard
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.02.25 14:54:00 - [42]
 

Perhaps the State should 'end'.. Just an idea..

Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
Posted - 2006.02.25 15:45:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Loimbard
Perhaps the State should 'end'.. Just an idea..


A Gallente would bring this idea to the table.

Narciss Sevar
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.02.25 15:51:00 - [44]
 

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Narciss, the State gave you your pod-piloting abilities, you squander them on piracy instead of benefitting the State so don't dare accuse the State of turning it's back on you.


My piracy never effected the state untill they banned me from core systems.It is the state who turned its back on me. If you fail to see that then i guess there is no hope left for someone so brainwashed as yourself.

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Never breaking your word? I find that hard to believe, a pirate with honor is a rare thing.
Rare, but not impossible to find. Why do you find it so hard to believe, their is many, hrmrmm, shall i say customers that can vouch for the honesty of my word.

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It's not hard to see why you left CAIN in the first place traitor.


Traitor? Big words, you care to prove how i am traitor, when it was i who was betrayed?

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Perhaps the State should 'end'.. Just an idea..


Perhaps, if we have the right people leading the new, hrrrmmm, empire for Caldari. YARRRR!!

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My question to you is, how could current 0.0 Alliances function without the current Empires?


Take the Band of Brothers for example, they produce most of what they need and the rest only because it is easier at the current time to import from the empire could easily be produced by themselves. It would not be as hard as you would think, but then some people who have never left the empire would not know.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2006.02.25 17:09:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Narciss
My piracy never effected the state untill they banned me from core systems.It is the state who turned its back on me. If you fail to see that then i guess there is no hope left for someone so brainwashed as yourself.



Well ya broke the laws which the State agreed upon so yes ya did a booboo in the eyes of the state.
I am certain atelast some of yer victims were Caldari.

So if ya wanna talk brainwashed please be so kind and take a realistic vieuw of the matter or just stay in 0.0 and stop blabbering that the State turned it's back on ya.

Ya break the law, ya pay the price. That is if yer caught.



Halunoto Vankaalen
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2006.02.25 20:46:00 - [46]
 

The State gave you the ability to get off the ground, and the best you can repay it is by turning to piracy.

You were denied access to the core systems, your sec status might've had something to do with this?

Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Take the Band of Brothers for example, they produce most of what they need and the rest only because it is easier at the current time to import from the empire could easily be produced by themselves. It would not be as hard as you would think, but then some people who have never left the empire would not know.


All of the recent ship designs as of late are produced by the Empires or non-pod pilot organizations. Sure, BOB can reproduce current ship designs, but can they make new ships and technology independently?

Without the Empires, how could things such as t2 or t3 modules and craft even be dreamed of? I'll remind you that most, if not all technological developments in the past millenia have come from the Empires directly.

Vendrin
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.02.25 22:32:00 - [47]
 

And Mr. Sevar, you forget the most important resource of all the Alliances can not get without the Empires. Pilots.

Narciss Sevar
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.02.25 22:53:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Vendrin
And Mr. Sevar, you forget the most important resource of all the Alliances can not get without the Empires. Pilots.


Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen
The State gave you the ability to get off the ground, and the best you can repay it is by turning to piracy.

You were denied access to the core systems, your sec status might've had something to do with this?

Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Take the Band of Brothers for example, they produce most of what they need and the rest only because it is easier at the current time to import from the empire could easily be produced by themselves. It would not be as hard as you would think, but then some people who have never left the empire would not know.


All of the recent ship designs as of late are produced by the Empires or non-pod pilot organizations. Sure, BOB can reproduce current ship designs, but can they make new ships and technology independently?

Without the Empires, how could things such as t2 or t3 modules and craft even be dreamed of? I'll remind you that most, if not all technological developments in the past millenia have come from the Empires directly.


You two believe that if the empires fell tommorrow that the 0.0 alliances wouldn't be able to fill the void? The empires are currently stronger than the 0.0 alliances and have more resources, but how long will that last with the gap falling at such a fast rate. Just because they are currently stronger, doesn't make them better or right. Just look at the ****ty deal they all made with concord. The same concord i bet is moving in on their leaders to take over. 2 of the 4 empires are currently leaderless.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2006.02.26 04:25:00 - [49]
 

Let's try to explain it in a way you might comprehend Mister Pirate.

You made a BooBoo, Caldari State said BahBah, now you say BooHoo cause Caldari State say you no nice, you no may come back to nice peeps.

If this is still too hard to get I give up trying to explain it to you.


Vendrin
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.02.26 10:37:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Vendrin
And Mr. Sevar, you forget the most important resource of all the Alliances can not get without the Empires. Pilots.


Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen
The State gave you the ability to get off the ground, and the best you can repay it is by turning to piracy.

You were denied access to the core systems, your sec status might've had something to do with this?

Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Take the Band of Brothers for example, they produce most of what they need and the rest only because it is easier at the current time to import from the empire could easily be produced by themselves. It would not be as hard as you would think, but then some people who have never left the empire would not know.


All of the recent ship designs as of late are produced by the Empires or non-pod pilot organizations. Sure, BOB can reproduce current ship designs, but can they make new ships and technology independently?

Without the Empires, how could things such as t2 or t3 modules and craft even be dreamed of? I'll remind you that most, if not all technological developments in the past millenia have come from the Empires directly.


You two believe that if the empires fell tommorrow that the 0.0 alliances wouldn't be able to fill the void? The empires are currently stronger than the 0.0 alliances and have more resources, but how long will that last with the gap falling at such a fast rate. Just because they are currently stronger, doesn't make them better or right. Just look at the ****ty deal they all made with concord. The same concord i bet is moving in on their leaders to take over. 2 of the 4 empires are currently leaderless.


No I do not. Because they do not have the economic, politcal and social experience to be able to fill the void. Alliances may control a region, maybe 2 of space, but hardly any(if any at all) of the planets are populated. Empire Control is more then just about space, planetary populations and economics all play a role and as most alliances have a hard time holding onto their own space, there is no way they would be able to even control one region of space without the majority of their planetary populations rioting.

Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
Posted - 2006.02.26 16:50:00 - [51]
 

Herr Sevar,

You left the fold. The State is about conformity to the ideal. You haven't done that.

Ostracism, alienation, and lack of access to the Core Worlds are only a part of what happens to those who do not toe the line in the State.

I hope you can find your way back into our new world order, but until you do, you will be living on the Fringe.

You have my best wishes, and my condolences.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2006.02.27 04:15:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Karl Mattar
Herr Sevar,

You left the fold. The State is about conformity to the ideal. You haven't done that.

Ostracism, alienation, and lack of access to the Core Worlds are only a part of what happens to those who do not toe the line in the State.

I hope you can find your way back into our new world order, but until you do, you will be living on the Fringe.

You have my best wishes, and my condolences.


Very well put, but maybe a tad too hard for him to understand.


Arron S
Gallente
Soviet Directorate of Eve
Posted - 2006.02.27 08:23:00 - [53]
 

Bah... The Caldari... They are no differnt from the Galentee. Thinking they are so free.. when if reality. Both are run by there Corperate Masters. The only differnt is that the Caldari are more open about it. While as the Galentee Think that there "Votes" count. When in reality every Senitor is on a corperations pay roll.

The reality is... Both the Caldari State and Galentee Federation have alot in Common, Both the federation and State have massive poverty issues. and the rich elite(the ones who pull he string) just pass em off as scum of the earth, or call em lazy drunks. Both the State and Federation have little or no social programs for the poor. And expolit them every chance they get.




Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.27 14:21:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Sunedyal Na''Shalorian on 27/02/2006 14:23:52
While yes, that may be true that the State and Federation share some common faults, no proper health care system, lack of funding for public education, the one thing we donít have in common is the fact that we threw off our yoke of oppression long ago.

Sure there are problems within the State and how it is run, the same can be said of any government that has come to power throughout the broad time stream of history. Despite how well a government is run, or how many people are given a voice within it; there will always be at least one faction diametrically opposed to it. Thatís the nature of things and how life goes about.

Being fairly new to pod piloting, I have yet to truly explore the vast expanses of 0.0 space, so in respect to the people who are debating itís socio-economical importance and lack of overlapping political envelopes, I will refrain from tossing in my two cents on that one. Cool

So what if we are fanning the flames between Caldari and Gallente? As was said before, our Cold War will most likely never erupt into the full-scale conflict required to liberate our home world. Not without some State sanctioned operations anyway. So what does it matter that we are going back and forth here about the benefits of the State over the Federation?

((Edited because it's early here and i apparently can't spell when half awake.))

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2006.02.27 15:10:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Arron S
Bah... The Caldari... They are no differnt from the Galentee. Thinking they are so free.. when if reality. Both are run by there Corperate Masters. The only differnt is that the Caldari are more open about it. While as the Galentee Think that there "Votes" count. When in reality every Senitor is on a corperations pay roll.

The reality is... Both the Caldari State and Galentee Federation have alot in Common, Both the federation and State have massive poverty issues. and the rich elite(the ones who pull he string) just pass em off as scum of the earth, or call em lazy drunks. Both the State and Federation have little or no social programs for the poor. And expolit them every chance they get.






You would wish we were somewhat similar ya Gallente.

Caldari are superior to Gallente, economicly, strategicly and in looks offcourse.

Atleast from the Caldari ya can see the difference between men and women.


Gavin Paradise
Alien Ruffneck Force
Ignes Immortalis
Posted - 2006.02.27 19:11:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Gavin Paradise on 27/02/2006 19:16:58
Originally by: Karl Mattar
Herr Sevar,

You left the fold. The State is about conformity to the ideal. You haven't done that.

Ostracism, alienation, and lack of access to the Core Worlds are only a part of what happens to those who do not toe the line in the State.

I hope you can find your way back into our new world order, but until you do, you will be living on the Fringe.

You have my best wishes, and my condolences.


New world order? You're off by more than a few centuries pal. If you ask me, imperial loyalists are cowards who wrap themselves up in a warm blanket of high security and low risk.

Keep killing Sevar. The 0.0 empires need targets like you since it seems there are quite a limited number of pilots these days with the cohones to live in 0.0, build something of their own from scratch and fight like Hell to maintain it... pirate or not.

/looks at the other comms on his screen with total disgust.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2006.02.28 02:48:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Gavin Paradise

New world order? You're off by more than a few centuries pal. If you ask me, imperial loyalists are cowards who wrap themselves up in a warm blanket of high security and low risk.

Keep killing Sevar. The 0.0 empires need targets like you since it seems there are quite a limited number of pilots these days with the cohones to live in 0.0, build something of their own from scratch and fight like Hell to maintain it... pirate or not.

/looks at the other comms on his screen with total disgust.


I think you forgot to add the YARRRRR.


Malthros Zenobia
Posted - 2006.02.28 03:23:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Arron S
Bah... The Caldari... They are no differnt from the Galentee. Thinking they are so free.. when if reality. Both are run by there Corperate Masters. The only differnt is that the Caldari are more open about it. While as the Galentee Think that there "Votes" count. When in reality every Senitor is on a corperations pay roll.

The reality is... Both the Caldari State and Galentee Federation have alot in Common, Both the federation and State have massive poverty issues. and the rich elite(the ones who pull he string) just pass em off as scum of the earth, or call em lazy drunks. Both the State and Federation have little or no social programs for the poor. And expolit them every chance they get.


I don't see the Deteis or Civire talking down to each other, or the Achura, nor do I see massive drug problems or people trying to live off of government welfare.

Keep dreaming that you're like us, because you're so far behind us I can barely see you.

Masc Suiza
Caldari
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.02.28 04:00:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Arron S
Bah... The Caldari... They are no differnt from the Galentee. Thinking they are so free.. when if reality. Both are run by there Corperate Masters. The only differnt is that the Caldari are more open about it. While as the Galentee Think that there "Votes" count. When in reality every Senitor is on a corperations pay roll.

The reality is... Both the Caldari State and Galentee Federation have alot in Common, Both the federation and State have massive poverty issues. and the rich elite(the ones who pull he string) just pass em off as scum of the earth, or call em lazy drunks. Both the State and Federation have little or no social programs for the poor. And expolit them every chance they get.




Please check the 'use by' date on your quafe i fear your supply maybe slightly more fermented than is good for you. The only 'poor' within Caldari space are those who chose not to work within the system.
The system is not good or evil in itself, it simply 'is' and all citizens have the choice to put some effort in and get state/corporate housing, education, to name but a few of the benefits with which you are renumerated for loyalty and toil. Or you can chose to not to and thus receive nothing, in our successful society you reap what you sow as he saying goes.

Gallente society is very different, you lack consensous and thus focus. Your actions are that of a chicken with several severed heads, i.e. the body is left to be confused about even which way it should run before it dies! ewwww!!! gross!!!! Razz Each time you change political leaders you simply replace one chicken with a new one and promptley remove all its heads, again with the ewww!!!

the proof in the superiour Caldari way is that anyone of any race and background can come to the State and make positive contribution to the State and thus every citizen and at the same time improve their own lot. All by simply following the rules and customs of the land you are judged by results and acumen not simple race/religion.

For example much of my personal bodyguard are Minmatar in origin and freed from bondage by me and given education and training and the choice to work for me they have excelled and now earn a good living. They pay their dues to the State (i.e. taxes) and in return can draw upon the resources of the state if in need. Not that they will of course I pay them well and I havent had to have a planetside/stationside clone activation yet!!!

I believe it was an ancient argument of nature vs nurture as to the paramount influence on the behaviour/success of an individual. Well with my experiences since becoming a registered pod pilot that Nurture is for the win.


Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.28 16:29:00 - [60]
 

When viewing the different aspects of each society you must look at the people populating each respective sovereign zone.

Caldari: the primary definition- hard working, focused, determined, unrelenting

Gallente: effimate, care-free, pleasure driven, procrastinators

Sure, this is my view point and i am particularly biased, being Caldari and proud of it, but the fact of the matter remains that we have none of the political turmoil that the other nations have. Which is why i began this transmission. I wanted to compare the relative societies activity and distemper levels and from what i've seen so far, the caldari are the most stable, prosperous society in EVE.

Once again, this is my personal opinion and is made based solely on my observations, so don't get your panties too much in a wad over it.


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