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Laythun
Viziam
Posted - 2006.02.17 13:47:00 - [1]
 

Moved from EVE General Discussion to Skills forum - Jacques

CCP we need a way of deleting those silly skills we train and dont need.

i would be quite happy to lose the sp (as its of no use) if only i could delte the skills i dont want.

Jester87
Shark Investments
Posted - 2006.02.17 13:49:00 - [2]
 

signed...

Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.02.17 13:54:00 - [3]
 

If they're there they're not harming you in any way, other than cluttering up your skill list. Personally, if a skill removal service was put into the game I'd prefer to get some of those skillpoints back (a percentage at least). Maybe the interface could then present a list of my character's skills that aren't fully trained and can accept a full or partial load of points from the removed skill.

And since this is EVE there has to be penalties of some sort, so I'll go straight for the carotid artery on this one and suggest that to do so would make you lose your implants and pay some kind of clone maintenance fee.

000Hunter000
Gallente
Missiles 'R' Us
Posted - 2006.02.17 13:59:00 - [4]
 

Well i would say no... u learned the skill, now live with it, it's not harming u... but perhaps something to hide/show skills in the skill list then if ur that bothered by it?

Deleting skills and beeing able to use (part of) those skillpoints on another skill will (hopefully) never happen.

thiefkiller3
Posted - 2006.02.17 14:00:00 - [5]
 

QFSPE (quoted for silliest post ever)

You never know when those silly skills might come in handy, either directly or as a prerequisite for something else. To give them up without getting something in return is either silly beyond belief or asinine.

People that think like this are prolly the same type that spend days "cleaning up" their assets list.

I wonder how many people trashed/reprocessed now quite valuable Damage Control mods cuz they had no value before the RMR patch?


St Dragon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.17 14:00:00 - [6]
 

I think hes secrety complaining that clones cost too much Laughing

Mrmuttley
National Health Service
Posted - 2006.02.17 14:03:00 - [7]
 

why on earth would you want to delete them. I have loads of SP that I never take advantage of for example I never really got no with large railguns or blasters prefereing projectiles and energy weapons.

That does not mean the large hybrid skill is causing me any issues and should at some point in the future Railguns become uber for some reason I can go buy a Megathron and dont have to re-train the skill.

Maybe im missing your point

Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.02.17 14:06:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: thiefkiller3
I wonder how many people trashed/reprocessed now quite valuable Damage Control mods cuz they had no value before the RMR patch?

So? They were utterly useless pre-RMR. Doesn't mean people who reproc'd them were wrong in doing so. Should we keep crap loot around for no reason then, just in case it gets patched to uberness in a year?


Hesperides
Posted - 2006.02.17 14:09:00 - [9]
 

signed...

I have mining alts with useless gunnery skills from creation... would love 2 be able 2 delete these

My grandfather
Amarr
Clan Shadow Wolf
Sylph Alliance
Posted - 2006.02.17 14:10:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: thiefkiller3
QFSPE (quoted for silliest post ever)

You never know when those silly skills might come in handy, either directly or as a prerequisite for something else. To give them up without getting something in return is either silly beyond belief or asinine.

People that think like this are prolly the same type that spend days "cleaning up" their assets list.

I wonder how many people trashed/reprocessed now quite valuable Damage Control mods cuz they had no value before the RMR patch?




Last week I spent 3 days getting all my assets organised, all located in 2 locations, and all nicely in can per type of item... Yet I still think this is a useless idea. Why would you want to delete sp that you worked so hard for in the past? Just because you don't need it now, doesn't mean a situation will never occur that it doesn't come in handy...

Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.02.17 14:10:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Hesperides
signed...

I have mining alts with useless gunnery skills from creation... would love 2 be able 2 delete these

Why? Do your mining lasers suck when you have gunnery skills or something?

Grimwalius d'Antan
Gallente
Posted - 2006.02.17 14:12:00 - [12]
 

It is the new e-peen thing. The fewer skills trained with much SP the better. I'd be glad to get rid of my mining skills, because they will never serve me again, and they look bad. I hate having level 1 and 2's cluttering my character sheet. (Oh, and I recently had to upgrade my clone, which sucked)

Archer79
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.17 15:05:00 - [13]
 

I wonder which ones these 'useless' skills are at the time being - has someone a list?

Laythun
Viziam
Posted - 2006.02.17 15:23:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: thiefkiller3
QFSPE (quoted for silliest post ever)

You never know when those silly skills might come in handy, either directly or as a prerequisite for something else. To give them up without getting something in return is either silly beyond belief or asinine.

People that think like this are prolly the same type that spend days "cleaning up" their assets list.

I wonder how many people trashed/reprocessed now quite valuable Damage Control mods cuz they had no value before the RMR patch?




erm hello! im asking for a choice. so i can get reid of those skills i dont want/will never use. im not trying to force deletion on anyone..it wouldnt harm anyone now would it?

and i do know when they'll come in handy cos the wont.

and im not asking as someone else in this thread did to get any points back. im asking to have an option to trash/forget a skill.

wat harm would that do to you if i trashed tactical shield manipulation?

Sixtyniner
North Star Networks
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2006.02.17 15:38:00 - [15]
 

I dont think its such a bad idea, i would love to delete some unneccessary skills.

Dedekind
Posted - 2006.02.17 15:40:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Dedekind on 17/02/2006 15:41:15

Filiberto
Amarr
The Drekla Consortium
Posted - 2006.02.17 15:50:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: My grandfather


Last week I spent 3 days getting all my assets organised, all located in 2 locations, and all nicely in can per type of item... Yet I still think this is a useless idea. Why would you want to delete sp that you worked so hard for in the past? Just because you don't need it now, doesn't mean a situation will never occur that it doesn't come in handy...


sorry but you worked hard for your SP??? I thought you just had to waitRolling Eyes

just so people know. this isn't about deleting IMPORTANT skills but more like skills that you only trained to LVL1 or 2 I would love to be able to delete my small projectile turret skill just becouse I wanna be pure amarrianCool

Gallell
Gallente
Posted - 2006.02.17 15:50:00 - [18]
 

"but why is the rum gone??" - Jack Sparrow

I don't understand it, why delete a skill that will only help you?

But hey, if you want to delete a skill and then later realize that you need it: more time to train, more money to CCP...

Aikudos En'Fellamen
Trade Alliance Institute
Posted - 2006.02.17 16:07:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Gallell
"but why is the rum gone??" - Jack Sparrow

I don't understand it, why delete a skill that will only help you?

But hey, if you want to delete a skill and then later realize that you need it: more time to train, more money to CCP...


Because some of us like to have a clean skillsheet, a perfect skillsheet so to speak. I have a Minmatar RP'ing alt, whom I wanted to be a pure Minmatar char, no unnecessary skills at all.
However, when I created him, I accidentically got Small Energy Turret lvl 1 in the package. Now he has something like 15m SP, and all gunnery skills to lvl 5 (except that skill pestering my perfect tree)

Is this so hard to understand?

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.17 16:08:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Laythun


erm hello! im asking for a choice. so i can get reid of those skills i dont want/will never use. im not trying to force deletion on anyone..it wouldnt harm anyone now would it?




True, you're not asking for people to be forced to delete skills.

But you are asking CCP to devote valuable resources to coding a feature that will only be beneficial to the asthetic sensibilites of a few per cent of the playerbase.

Frankly, they've got more important things to spend their time on.

Waldo Barnstormer
Caldari
Unscoped
Posted - 2006.02.17 16:12:00 - [21]
 

as for the op's post that you lose them.. well sure.. let the older players nerf themselves, wont bother me any

for the ppl who think that you should be able to unlearn a skill and have some of the sp put towards other skills.. it makes NO SENSE

Thats like me saying.. I dont use a VCR anymore.. so I'll unlearn its operation, and suddenly know more about gardening.. see? no sense.


bumcheekcity
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.17 16:22:00 - [22]
 

THis would be the most pointless waste of time ever. Even if you dont wat a skill now, it'll be useful soon.

Nu Blad
Posted - 2006.02.17 17:01:00 - [23]
 

There is a fix for this

If you turn the lights on and off four times before turning your computer on and only spin your chair round anti-clockwise during the loading screen three times whilst wearing a tin foil hat you'll actually stop caring that you have a skill that you no longer use .
The good thing about this is that as you no longer care that your charachter has a skill that only you know you have that you just have to glance over it gives you more time to arrange everything in your house alphabeticaly and/or chronologicaly.


Jabba DaSlut
Posted - 2006.02.17 17:27:00 - [24]
 

Yes lets introduce a way to delete skills.. so when our accounts are hacked,
some moron can just delete all the skills you spent months or years to wait
to be completed ;P

and also what about deleting important skills by accident..

Kel Shek
Posted - 2006.02.17 23:53:00 - [25]
 

it really isn't such a good idea. phenomenally little benefit, if any, with potential to do seriously more harm in the case of hackings, as mentioned.

can appriciate some contexts wehre a skill is completey useless, unwanted and just cluttering.... but really, its not harming you either. just ignore it.

BUT a way to purely asthetically hide a skill from the list, like for level 5 skills, so they don't show up on the list, could be cool. purely asthetic.


King Dave
Raven Dynamics
Posted - 2006.02.18 00:49:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Winterblink
If they're there they're not harming you in any way, other than cluttering up your skill list. Personally, if a skill removal service was put into the game I'd prefer to get some of those skillpoints back (a percentage at least). Maybe the interface could then present a list of my character's skills that aren't fully trained and can accept a full or partial load of points from the removed skill.

And since this is EVE there has to be penalties of some sort, so I'll go straight for the carotid artery on this one and suggest that to do so would make you lose your implants and pay some kind of clone maintenance fee.




this could be exploited, by getting ure best attributes then transfering the skillpoints to another..

King Dave
Raven Dynamics
Posted - 2006.02.18 00:49:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Winterblink
If they're there they're not harming you in any way, other than cluttering up your skill list. Personally, if a skill removal service was put into the game I'd prefer to get some of those skillpoints back (a percentage at least). Maybe the interface could then present a list of my character's skills that aren't fully trained and can accept a full or partial load of points from the removed skill.

And since this is EVE there has to be penalties of some sort, so I'll go straight for the carotid artery on this one and suggest that to do so would make you lose your implants and pay some kind of clone maintenance fee.




this could be exploited, by getting ure best attributes then transfering the skillpoints to another..

Kery Nysell
Caldari
Nysell Incorporated
Posted - 2006.02.18 02:24:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: thiefkiller3
QFSPE (quoted for silliest post ever)

You never know when those silly skills might come in handy, either directly or as a prerequisite for something else. To give them up without getting something in return is either silly beyond belief or asinine.

People that think like this are prolly the same type that spend days "cleaning up" their assets list.

I wonder how many people trashed/reprocessed now quite valuable Damage Control mods cuz they had no value before the RMR patch?




erm hello! im asking for a choice. so i can get reid of those skills i dont want/will never use. im not trying to force deletion on anyone..it wouldnt harm anyone now would it?

and i do know when they'll come in handy cos the wont.

and im not asking as someone else in this thread did to get any points back. im asking to have an option to trash/forget a skill.

wat harm would that do to you if i trashed tactical shield manipulation?



Very very bad example, as that is the skill that allows you to fit Shield Hardeners ... if you want to shield tank, be it now or in two years, that skill is needed.

Well, I'm not really the one to talk, as I want to have all the skills in this game, one day.
I'm currently at 179 skills ... around 30 of those are mostly useless, since they are the T2 production skills, and I don't own any T2 BPO (no luck yet in the lottery).

Kyozoku
Posted - 2006.02.18 12:22:00 - [29]
 

I want to delete mining I.

It's my hidden shame. Crying or Very sad

Deja Thoris
Invicta.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.02.19 03:14:00 - [30]
 

Lets see it from an in character perspective then.

Are you having a precision lobotomy?

Are you going to get hit with a hammer on your head till only mining V becomes "unlearnt"



Skills chart your character history, for better or worse, you should be stuck with them.


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