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Deja Thoris
Amarr
Invicta.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.02.12 16:37:00 - [1]
 

I've never seen so many different corps all itching to shoot people before.
I started to write a brief run down of all the engagements but it was turning a sagaEmbarassed


So in short, the evening opened for me with an excellent 2v2 (zealot + zealot vs vagabond + sac) which we won with a MASSIVE dose of luck. Thanks to mire and ShazamLight from 3fa for the great fight. (and Shocked at the tank on those two zealots)

We had memorable engagements with 3FA and Goonfleet. (look ma, 50 ships and no lagVery Happy)

Between all this we managed to chase some weekend warriors out of 0.0 and into lowsec where I tackled a dominix on the gate, under the sentries in a claw. And survivedVery Happy


Thanks to Goonfleet, 3FA, BOS, Infinite Style Incorporated, Blood Covenant and random others for some great fights.

Thanks also to Exotic Dancers Club, Legion and Apocalypse Enterprises for the impromptu "NAP" so we could double-team 3FA.

These were some of the most fun, smack free, lag free, good natured, balls to the walls fights I've had in ages.

ThanksVery Happy

danneh
Amarr
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2006.02.12 16:52:00 - [2]
 

So thats why you aren't onlineRazz

Ichabod Crane
Gallente
LFC
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2006.02.12 17:04:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Ichabod Crane on 12/02/2006 17:06:07
Originally by: Deja Thoris

So in short, the evening opened for me with an excellent 2v2 (zealot + zealot vs vagabond + sac) which we won with a MASSIVE dose of luck. Thanks to mire and ShazamLight from 3fa for the great fight. (and Shocked at the tank on those two zealots)


From what I understood about that, one or both of you had ECM's fitted and they saved your SAC in structure. Maybe ive got that wrong, and maybe im just bitter about every single ship we meet in small PVP skirmishes fitting single ECM's and coming out on top cause of chance. Correct me on it if you like.

But I believe they had a good time of it all the same Wink

The MHC battle was something else too, I havent seen one of those fights in a long time. Last time we had something that fun was against USTA (Mafia/Clankillers etc) in some of the older JH battles. Pity I missed it, hopefully we'll see some more like it in the future Very Happy

Deja Thoris
Amarr
Invicta.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.02.12 17:14:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ichabod Crane


From what I understood about that, one or both of you had ECM's fitted and they saved your SAC in structure.


I had one ECM II fitted. First time I've done it and I'm glad I did.

A sac has no business trying to take on 2 zealots without a trick up its sleeve. Like you said, I was in structure, how many times you think my jamming failed for that to happen?

raVn666
Gallente
Dark Interstellar Crime Cartel
Posted - 2006.02.12 17:15:00 - [5]
 

aah it was a good battle indeed , thank U to all involved

.... I so hope someone frapped it


Xthril Ranger
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.02.12 17:34:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Ichabod Crane
and maybe im just bitter about every single ship we meet in small PVP skirmishes fitting single ECM's and coming out on top cause of chance. Correct me on it if you like.


If you call it statistics and not chance I am sure you would feel a lot better. Wink

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2006.02.12 17:44:00 - [7]
 

People in corp chat usually ask "I need PvP experience. What should I do?"

First thing I answer them is "Take a sabbatical, grab a few expendable frigs and stuff, and go spend a month in Syndicate."


Cool


Syndicate, IMHO best place to learn the ropes of PvP.

Ichabod Crane
Gallente
LFC
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2006.02.12 17:45:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Ichabod Crane


From what I understood about that, one or both of you had ECM's fitted and they saved your SAC in structure.


I had one ECM II fitted. First time I've done it and I'm glad I did.

A sac has no business trying to take on 2 zealots without a trick up its sleeve. Like you said, I was in structure, how many times you think my jamming failed for that to happen?


Yeah it was just a general comment on ECM's, so dont take it as undue whining. If you've ever been on the recieving end of fittings like that you'll know how frustrating it can be Wink

It was a good day for some fights anyway, Syndicate can be really quiet these days and its good to see theres still some chance for action Smile

danneh
Amarr
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2006.02.12 17:52:00 - [9]
 

True ECM is overpowered, but if you can't beat them, join them!Cool

Marovinchian
Gallente
Mean Corp
Mean Coalition
Posted - 2006.02.12 17:59:00 - [10]
 

Syndicate has always been a mix-matched hodge-podge mess of pirates/merc corps/small alliances/and coalitions that ALL know the nature of syndicate is pvp...and in general participate willingly. I love going out for an op for 4-5 hours and fighting 5 different entities, lately the pvp has been great, fleet battles smack free, and pvp prevalent.

Thanks too all the residents of synd for making it a great place too play the game. Twisted Evil

Jingu Himiko
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.02.12 18:01:00 - [11]
 

Goonfleet had a good fight with Shadows of Wraiths and HELLS ANGELS last night, in addition to our battle with Conin I had a good time.

Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
Fates Assembly
The Final Stand.
Posted - 2006.02.12 18:42:00 - [12]
 

ECM over-powered? well i had 1 geddon, 1 domi and Lermitte's scorpion ECMed with my little tech 1 arbi with only 3 Multi tech 1s...so yeah.

then again don't complain about ECM because Lermitte had ECM too and used it with reckless abandon!

my poor arbi, beat on by blobs of ships over the course of the day. my poor sec status too :(

who were the noobs that ran away from one CONIN mega and my arbi when they had a Domi, 2 BBs, 1 omen and a some other cruiser + 1 frig? Except for those cravens the combat was good all day long, loses on both sides but pardon my joy in that CONIN killed much more than they lost. *\o/*

Though if the fight is fun it doesn't much matter who loses, because good fights are the only way to play this game.

FatKao
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.02.12 18:55:00 - [13]
 

GF also had a little, mostly uneventful, skirmish with 206 and friends at the UTKS 10/10, shaping up to be a good weekend for PVP.

Javon Bars
Minmatar
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2006.02.12 19:03:00 - [14]
 

Indeed, it was a good PvP night last night. I had a great time. Hope it'll be like this more often! YARRRR!!

Ichabod Crane
Gallente
LFC
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2006.02.12 19:09:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
ECM over-powered? well i had 1 geddon, 1 domi and Lermitte's scorpion ECMed with my little tech 1 arbi with only 3 Multi tech 1s...so yeah.

then again don't complain about ECM because Lermitte had ECM too and used it with reckless abandon!



Theres a difference between fitting jammers to a scorpion and fitting one to every ship that doesnt even remotely have an EW role.

Re-read the previous posts and try not to flame out of existence what has so far been an amiable discussion into last night's fun fights.

Kyguard
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.12 20:47:00 - [16]
 

Being called primary when I'm one of the last BS to warp in isn't fair. ugh

Ichabod Crane
Gallente
LFC
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2006.02.12 22:16:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Kyguard
Being called primary when I'm one of the last BS to warp in isn't fair. ugh


Thats right, Kyguard is our FC, shoot him first please.

Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
Fates Assembly
The Final Stand.
Posted - 2006.02.12 23:10:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Ichabod Crane
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
ECM over-powered? well i had 1 geddon, 1 domi and Lermitte's scorpion ECMed with my little tech 1 arbi with only 3 Multi tech 1s...so yeah.

then again don't complain about ECM because Lermitte had ECM too and used it with reckless abandon!



Theres a difference between fitting jammers to a scorpion and fitting one to every ship that doesnt even remotely have an EW role.

Re-read the previous posts and try not to flame out of existence what has so far been an amiable discussion into last night's fun fights.


I wonder why you are overly sensitive? Iím not a smacker nor do I hold anything but respect for Clippedís people. I was actually agreeing with you about ECM and at the same time trying to be light-hearted about it. I've always gotten along well with 3rd front folks, donít take PvP personally in a game where your enemy today may be your ally tomorrow.

And the difference between we putting 3 ECM on my arbi and Lermitte putting however many ECM on his scorpion is that the scorpion is an ECM build machine that utilizes the maximum superiority of the ECM while my pathetic tech 1 arbi who had already lost its drones was a little blip on the radar that almost died like 5 times. If you think using ECM is unfair because it is over powered stop flying Scorpions that maximize their capabilities. It is far more opportunistic to fly ships with an ECM bonus when ECM is strongest than to slap one on an crappy amarr cruiser (which I have always fitted ECM on since way before the ECM changes anyway).

oh and cheer up some Ichabod donít assume Iím flaming when Iím making a jest, be more like Clipped and that sparkling attitude he projects. ^_^

Ichabod Crane
Gallente
LFC
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2006.02.13 00:21:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Ichabod Crane on 13/02/2006 00:22:05
Fair enough at that, perhaps I was too quick to respond to you. Still, in my defense, light hearted comments like that dont tend to permiate well across the internet without emotes.

And tbh, this thread shouldnt be a discussion about the pros, cons and moralistic implications of using ECM's on EW or any other kind of ship. So lets not derail it further.

Oh, and FYI, not everyone has 30+ charisma like clip does Wink

Stahlregen
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.02.13 11:58:00 - [20]
 

As much as goonfleet has it in for conin, We really do like fighting you guys. Conin is a very appreciated change to the usual 206, Snigg and Bermuda crap we have to go up against.

IRONUTRR
Amarr
Wraiths Reborn
Posted - 2006.02.13 16:09:00 - [21]
 

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Goonfleet had a good fight with Shadows of Wraiths and HELLS ANGELS last night, in addition to our battle with Conin I had a good time.


A fun time was had by all. This is why I love the Syndicate so much. I look forward to more engagements with Goonfleet, see you guys soon.

cytro cesare
Caldari
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.02.13 17:06:00 - [22]
 

I'd like to thank you guys for the good fights this weekend too. It's a lot of fun to go up against experienced pvpers like yourselves, and think all of us goonfleet guys really appreciate the challenge.

Jingu Himiko
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.02.13 17:17:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Jingu Himiko on 13/02/2006 17:17:48
Originally by: cytro cesare
I'd like to thank you guys for the good fights this weekend too. It's a lot of fun to go up against experienced pvpers like yourselves, and think all of us goonfleet guys really appreciate the challenge.


Not only experienced, but always seeking a fight even when outmatched and outnumbered, unlike some other guys in Syndicate I know. Anyway kudos to Shadows and Contraband I enjoy fighting you both.

BlackDog Rackh'am
Minmatar
Maza Nostra
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2006.02.13 17:25:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: BlackDog Rackh''am on 13/02/2006 17:26:44
Tbh i think Goonfleet is a cool concept. They might overload on stabs occassionally and avoid engagements until they have secured enough of an advantage, but everyone in this game is guilty of that at one point or another. Even the best pvp pilots have been total and utter noobs at some point in time, and they shouldn't forget that.

In fact, i can sure cut Goonfleet some slack simply because they are newer players and they will need their time before they have the necessary confidence. What i know is that it must be awesome fun for a month-old player to be able to regularly go into 0.0 without having to wait.

I recall a recent engagement against them, which i enjoyed a lot. Generally, to engage you need some kind of advantage. That can be tactics,numbers and skills (both character SPs and player skills). Usually, to fight outnumbered you need the advantage of experience to even things out. I liked that fight because Goonfleet had the numbers advantage, but we had better ships and tactics, making it more or less an even fight in retrospect. Of course, we couldn't know the outcome when we were going in, and that's what made it exciting.

It was me and shemesta in vagabonds, against 2 rifters,crow,crusader, 1-2 BC's and about 4-5 cruisers (BC/cruiser numbers could be slightly different,i'm too bored to check killboards atm)

We wanted to pick off the frigates initially and work against the rest afterwards if possible. However, on the initial jump in shemesta crashed, so we had to jump out and go in together. Our enemies might be relatively new, but they knew what we were bringing and made some correct decisions. I was double webbed by a caracal and i wasted some time going "WTF?the frigs are dead,who's webbing me?",before i saw him standing about 7km from me.

At that point the 3 remaining ships were focusing on shemesta and giving him some trouble, but we eventually managed to kill them without friendly losses.

In retrospect, i have only one little piece of friendly advice. Some of their ships we killed last did have 1-2 stabs fitted, so they could run away. I don't criticise fitting stabs, it's just weird that they didn't try to escape while they could do so. It made sense to stand and fight since they were in one of their home systems,possibly with replacement ships ready and waiting for them.

But the deal is, if you want to prevent losses fit some stabs and USE them, otherwise they just gimp your setup without any real gain as a trade off. If you intend to go down with your ship like in this case, fit something else like a damage mod. It's highly probable that you could have killed at least one of us,maybe both, that way. In any case, it was a cool fight and i'm not saying that just because we came on top (i wouldn't be giving you advice on how to kill me otherwise,would i?) Wink

Manion Taleroth
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.02.13 17:30:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: IRONUTRR
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Quote:
Goonfleet had a good fight with Shadows of Wraiths and HELLS ANGELS last night, in addition to our battle with Conin I had a good time.


A fun time was had by all. This is why I love the Syndicate so much. I look forward to more engagements with Goonfleet, see you guys soon.


OMGHI2U!

RoboTronic
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.02.13 17:50:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Edited by: BlackDog Rackh''am on 13/02/2006 17:26:44
In retrospect, i have only one little piece of friendly advice. Some of their ships we killed last did have 1-2 stabs fitted, so they could run away. I don't criticise fitting stabs, it's just weird that they didn't try to escape while they could do so. It made sense to stand and fight since they were in one of their home systems,possibly with replacement ships ready and waiting for them.

But the deal is, if you want to prevent losses fit some stabs and USE them, otherwise they just gimp your setup without any real gain as a trade off. If you intend to go down with your ship like in this case, fit something else like a damage mod. It's highly probable that you could have killed at least one of us,maybe both, that way. In any case, it was a cool fight and i'm not saying that just because we came on top (i wouldn't be giving you advice on how to kill me otherwise,would i?) Wink


But... if we run how can we get SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE?! If you know of a way to get SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE while running please tell us!

neccette
Minmatar
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2006.02.13 18:47:00 - [27]
 

Another fun night in syndicate last night.

Multiple encouters with hostile groups around the 6-C and MHC area. We formed up to take out a snigg gatecamp in MHC that left before we got there, wandered over to 6-c and had some fun with the BRS guys. Geeklabs brought in a Dreadnought but logged it off soon after we destroyed their Scorpion. Ran into some Shadows of the Wraiths in 6E and kinda mobed them(sorry guys). Set up a gate camp in 6-c and got a neutral BC.

I think our losses were 1 BS and 5 or 6 support craft, while we destroyed 2 BSes, 1 BC, 5 cruisers and a couple other random ships.

Overall another good time.

Iromei
Minmatar
Kuca Munga Kracka Killaz
Posted - 2006.02.14 03:42:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: IRONUTRR
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Quote:
Goonfleet had a good fight with Shadows of Wraiths and HELLS ANGELS last night, in addition to our battle with Conin I had a good time.


A fun time was had by all. This is why I love the Syndicate so much. I look forward to more engagements with Goonfleet, see you guys soon.


I had fun fighting with you guys, you're an alright bunch :D Looking forward to some more fights with you guys.

Native
Minmatar
Kusomonmon Innovations
Posted - 2006.02.14 03:45:00 - [29]
 

I love Shadows of the wraith. I feel bad every time we engage them with massive numbers though, they are a class act and deserve a fair fight.

Lorth
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.02.14 04:25:00 - [30]
 

Respect has no place in the corp and alliences forum. Smack each outher now!


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