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Ctair Pilru
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.05.23 19:54:00 - [61]
 

Hmm..what can we add to the 3x Ion II setup now that they take 15% less CPU?

Rolling Eyes

steveid
Viziam
Posted - 2006.06.09 10:52:00 - [62]
 

I run:

3 light electron II's, small diminishing
web afterburner t2 tracking
small rep II 2 dam mods II's

With void ammo i solo any of the 0.0 bs's i've faced (curse 5 mil one is top so far) and orbiting @ 500m i hit for wrecking shots of 195 with a rof of 1.2 seconds. Interested to see noone uses these guns tho, and will give the others a go.

Das Yad
0utbreak
Posted - 2006.06.09 11:14:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Das Yad on 09/06/2006 11:20:04
Depends what you want..

i run

Gang:
3x 125 II's irid usually
1x mwd 1x 20k fleeting 1x Web / Td depending on the need for ewar
3x Cpr's or 2x Cpr's and an f85

Drone bay: Inty gangs i use rep drones for gang mates

for solo i've tried the ions & nos setup electrons nos & pdu and rep but it isnt as satifying as fullgank
i got into my ranis for the first time in about a week and i thought "was i drunk when i made this setup?"

3x ion's 1x nos
1x mwd 1x 7.5 or 20k 1x web
1x mapc 1x 200mm 1x f85

2x hobgob II's

my fave solo setup by far is

3x Neutron II
1x mwd 1x 7.5 1x web
1x mapc 1x magstab 1x f85

2x warrior II's

with small blaster spec 4 i've got >11x mod i think the f85 buffs your hull with 54% across and it gives you that staying power compared do say another magstab. setup has served me well i've gone into a 1v1 with anothe neutron ranis with low shields and won on 7% hull =] i used to carry am and null not tried void in frig blasters post patch but i remember am nailing my cap after a minute or so =x

Edit: one of my pet peeve's is people using ecm drones Crying or Very sad i'd agree'd a 1v1 and no ecm then he launched ecm drones and as soon as they went yellow i lost lock. pretty overpowered =[

Thesper
StateCorp
The State
Posted - 2006.06.09 12:01:00 - [64]
 

Edited by: Thesper on 09/06/2006 12:02:10
Quote:
my fave solo setup by far is

3x Neutron II
1x mwd 1x 7.5 1x web
1x mapc 1x magstab 1x f85

2x warrior II's

with small blaster spec 4 i've got >11x mod i think the f85 buffs your hull with 54% across and it gives you that staying power compared do say another magstab. setup has served me well i've gone into a 1v1 with anothe neutron ranis with low shields and won on 7% hull =] i used to carry am and null not tried void in frig blasters post patch but i remember am nailing my cap after a minute or so =x



Heh, think that was me you got, forgot to launch my drones.
Piloting tip: DO NOT FORGET TO LAUNCH DRONES.

You can modify that setup by replacing the Neuts with Ions and the MAPC with another mag stab. You lose a little range, gain a little damage, I think it's something like another 15 dps with my skills using null.

Das Yad
0utbreak
Posted - 2006.06.09 12:13:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: Das Yad on 10/06/2006 00:33:51

thread hijack =p name rings a bell i think i used null in that fight to try and out range you but evidently you were using null too ^_^ couldnt scoop your loot cause a friendly of yours came in =< sv5 or wd- maybe. cant remember & our old killboard is down =[

1st edit:
i'm lacking like 5 cpu for the 2nd magstab with a 20k =< although a faint epsilon 7.5 fits with 7 cpu spare.

With SS IV & Small Blaster spec IV & Inty 3 cause i'm working on other stuff >.>
I get

Ions & 2 Mags: 9.15174467823 & 1.84 rof
Neutrons & 1 Mag: 10.47816 & 2.37 rof



((damagemod * (damage of ammo) )* amount of turrets or bays) / RoF

i'l work with null
5kin
6therm

Ions:((9.1517446782*(5+6))*3) / 1.84 = 164.134551
Neuts:((10.47816*(5+6))*3) / 2.37 = 145.89843

Difference: Ions:164.134551 - Neuts:145.89843 = 18.236121
Ions does more dps in theory but you could get higher shots with the neutrons

someone correct me if i'm using the wrong ammo figures Rolling Eyes

Edit: Spelling >.>

steveid
Viziam
Posted - 2006.06.10 13:51:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: steveid on 10/06/2006 13:55:22
okays so i've taken the posters advice and switched my electron II's to ion II's. My setup now is:

3 ion II's top slot empty
afterburner II small shield booster II
3 damage mod II's

This wont work for everyone but since i'm fighting angels who hit explosive i thought i'd make use of the 60% shield resist i have already while getting another damage mod in.

This gives me wrecking shots of 349 and a rof of 1.7 seconds.

I am training small blaster specialisation now, and after i'm done with that i'll move onto surgical strike. What other skills and implants can i use to increase my damage per shot, my frequency of wrecking hits and my rof?

Another question: with only two damage mods i have a rof of 1.84. Would switching back to armor repping and either putting a target painter or tracking mod in increase the amount of good hits i am getting on bs's, and therefore be better than a third damage mod?

Cerridwehn Odessa
Posted - 2006.06.10 14:57:00 - [67]
 

small armor rep is mandatory unless you only fight haulers and shuttles and are on a roadtrip, or camp npc station systems

steveid
Viziam
Posted - 2006.06.10 15:29:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Cerridwehn Odessa
small armor rep is mandatory unless you only fight haulers and shuttles and are on a roadtrip, or camp npc station systems


I'm in curse which is npc station city so thats not a problem.

The point is, curse rats do explosive damage, and the ranis has 10% resist on armor and 60% on shields, so you may as well use the mid slot thats not really needed and use the low slot for extra damage. I'm experimating with an ishkur now.

Das Yad
0utbreak
Posted - 2006.06.10 17:34:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Cerridwehn Odessa
small armor rep is mandatory unless you only fight haulers and shuttles and are on a roadtrip, or camp npc station systems


after a heavy fight i usually head back to dock & rep drop off loot etc & have other methods of repping

Xachar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.06.22 14:47:00 - [70]
 

High:
3x Light Neutron Blaster II Void s
Medium:
1x 1mn MicroWarpDrive II
1x Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler
1x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Low:
1x Micro Auxillary Power Core I
1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1x Small Armor Repairer II

This is what I use.

Aakron
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.06.22 17:09:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Xachar
High:
3x Light Neutron Blaster II Void s
Medium:
1x 1mn MicroWarpDrive II
1x Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler
1x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Low:
1x Micro Auxillary Power Core I
1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1x Small Armor Repairer II

This is what I use.


No you dont. Because that doesnt fit Exclamation

Squize
Euphoria Released
Posted - 2006.06.25 15:44:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Aakron
Originally by: Xachar
High:
3x Light Neutron Blaster II Void s
Medium:
1x 1mn MicroWarpDrive II
1x Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler
1x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Low:
1x Micro Auxillary Power Core I
1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1x Small Armor Repairer II

This is what I use.


No you dont. Because that doesnt fit Exclamation


Yes it does... atleast with awu4, and -3%cpu implant

Shoele Lialos
Gallente
MCB Inc.
Posted - 2006.07.06 19:58:00 - [73]
 

Can I get a learned opinion on this setup for running in a gang. I'm not the damage dealer, I'm the tackler. I need to get to them, and survive. Thus the two Nos and two reppers, and the lack of focus on damage dealing.

Taranis

Small 'Knave' I Energy Drain
Small 'Knave' I Energy Drain
Light Electron Blaster II [200xVoid S]
Light Electron Blaster II [200xVoid S]

1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Small Armor Repairer II
Small Armor Repairer II

If I'm out soloing, I'd go with the more traditional setups of 3 guns, nos, mwd, web, scramble, repper, magstab, mapc.

Thanks in advance.

Birkir
Aliastra
Posted - 2006.07.07 00:40:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Shoele Lialos

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II


Ehmmmmm?

Shoele Lialos
Gallente
MCB Inc.
Posted - 2006.07.07 11:08:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Birkir
Originally by: Shoele Lialos

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II


Ehmmmmm?


They not in game yet?

Stupid Quikfit!

Paper Airplane
The Knights of Gonjdor
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2006.07.20 21:18:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Deathbarrage
Originally by: Captain Pringles
Originally by: Chewyguru
Edited by: Chewyguru on 28/04/2006 02:47:34
my favorite is this

3 t2 125 with antimatter loaded and spike and javelin in cargo

small diminishing

gisti mwd, domination stasis web 20k disruptor

two wcs, one power diag

i also use this variant with some success in pvp tho it has obvious drawbacks

3 t2 125, diminishing nos
t2 ab, x5 web , jb5 7.5k scram
small t2 rep cap relay , 200mm rolled tungsten
2 warrior t2 small drones






My favoire is this

3 t2 siege launchers

small diminishing

gist xtype 100mn mwd, officer stasis web and disruptor

pdu and two gyrostabs


I honestly canīt see the joke in this on a serious ship fitting topic



I think he was implying that there is no way chewy could possibly fit that

Dice Mann
Posted - 2006.07.27 22:47:00 - [77]
 

OK noob question guys, I totally get how to fit one of these things out (3 blasters, MWD, 7.5km scram, web, mix repper/cpr/mfs/mapc) from what's been written here. What I don't get is the tactics. What can I expect to take down in this ship and, as importantly, how? Can I pose three scenarios that I'd like you guys to suggest an approach to:

1. Killing any old cruiser with good web and a reasonable tank and possibly NOS

2. Killing a missile boat with light/heavy missiles and web

3. Tackling anything large (BC/BS size) and staying alive long enough for your fellow pirate-mate to warp in and kill it.

Is the idea in cases 1 and 2 that you hit them so fast that they just die before you do? do you leave the MWD on or off? Orbiting or manual work?

Thanks


Quilan Ziller
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2006.08.20 01:08:00 - [78]
 

I am a realtively new player considering a Taranis, and I have some tactics questions.
Let me start with a true story.
Yesterday, as I was supervising some major NPC loot recovery operations, I was attacked by a pirate in a Taranis.
At the moment I was in my very basic anti-rat Thorax outfitted with 2 Small and 2 Medium Modal Neutron
blasters with AM charges, Medium named NOS, 10MN AB II, X5 Web, some cap recharger, paper-thin 400mm
plate, named medium armor repper, MFSII, and a couple of power diagnostic units. Oh, and 4 Hammerheads I
in the drone bay - two of them significantly beat up.
My shield was 90% down from confronting 3 major rats 2 minutes before.
As the Taranis locked onto me, I was really scared, because, well, I have read a lot about the deadliness of
this small ship, and, well, I had no shield and a corp-mate's Iteron behind my back.
Taranis used its MWD to get within 1km or so, immediately locked and started orbiting and shooting.
The confrontation from that point on looked like that:

Bzzz... bzzz... bzzzz...
<he warp scrambles me and continues shooting>
*locked* *turn on the tank, since 20% of poor Rax's armor is already gone*
<he turns on his webber>
*blam* *turn on my webber and NOS* *blam*
*launch Hammerheads* *blam* *blam*
*CROAK*

I let his pod warp away because I am not really evil Wink
The whole confrontation lasted about 20 seconds, and still I had about
70% of my armor hitpoints intact when the poor soul blew up.
According to Concord email and the contents of the loot can, he had the
following Taranis setup:

High: 3 Light Neutron II with Void, Knave I small NOS
Med: Some named 1mn MWD, Langour webber, Fleeting warp scrambler
Low: Most expensive Tech I MFS, some damage control stuff

Needless to say, this confrontation made me think.
I've been playing for 2 months and have barely 2 million SP - most in
Learning, Science, and Drones. I have extremely basic gunnery skills.
I fly an el cheapo cruiser (it is 50% or so the cost of a Taranis, and
only my afterburner is Tech II).
The attacker has been playing for more than a year, and, judging by
his setup, has way, way more combat SPs than me.
I have taken him out trivially, in just 4 shots.
So, what is the point of having a Taranis then?
Is it usable at all for solo PvP? If so, what would be the strategy against
something like a Rax?
I have no doubt Taranis is great for ratting - heck, my second-favorite
ratting ship after Vexor is the Atron.
But so far I am a bit underwhelmed.
The attacker seemed to do everything right here (i.e. he was in range, he
had good ammo and doing good damage), but he still lost decisively...
What are everyone's thoughts?

Death Merchant
United Mining And Distribution
Posted - 2006.08.20 08:23:00 - [79]
 

Quilan Ziller - You won decisively because of your web nos and drones. Thats the main drawback imo of any taranis setup that uses blasters.. yes it really nice when you get in range however it puts you in that dreaded 10km and below hot zone. If he had rails he could have orbited you at 15km.. kill of your hammerheads then eventually break your tank. Because without a web your medium guns wouldn't have hit.


Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Merciless.
Posted - 2006.08.20 09:42:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 20/08/2006 09:44:55
Originally by: Quilan Ziller

Needless to say, this confrontation made me think.
I've been playing for 2 months and have barely 2 million SP - most in
Learning, Science, and Drones. I have extremely basic gunnery skills.
I fly an el cheapo cruiser (it is 50% or so the cost of a Taranis, and
only my afterburner is Tech II).
The attacker has been playing for more than a year, and, judging by
his setup, has way, way more combat SPs than me.
I have taken him out trivially, in just 4 shots.
So, what is the point of having a Taranis then?
Is it usable at all for solo PvP? If so, what would be the strategy against
something like a Rax?
I have no doubt Taranis is great for ratting - heck, my second-favorite
ratting ship after Vexor is the Atron.
But so far I am a bit underwhelmed.
The attacker seemed to do everything right here (i.e. he was in range, he
had good ammo and doing good damage), but he still lost decisively...
What are everyone's thoughts?


only certain people want others to think that interceptors are solo-pwnmobiles ... they aren't.

your experience shows exactly the truth of interceptors. a solo interceptor can't gank a cruiser/battlecruiser/battleship if the pilot of the bigger ship knows what he is doing (i say only nos/web/drones).

if you fly solo with an interceptor you have to pick your fights. it seems he picked the wrong one Wink

good targets for a interceptor are: t1 frigs, haulers, other interceptors, sniping BS ... yeah and n00bs in cruisers/battlecruisers/battleships (and i'm not talking about newbies! you might be a newbie, but not necessarily a n00b Wink )

Sweapt
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
Posted - 2006.09.05 12:18:00 - [81]
 

I am thinking of getting a Taranis in the near future. After looking at the setups here on the site, and the specs of it in game. Would it be worth taking out something from the low slots and adding in an explosion dampening module in the low slots? (energized basic reactive membrane i think)

Lord AbSynth
Gallente
Muppet Factory
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2006.09.05 23:47:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Quilan Ziller

High: 3 Light Neutron II with Void, Knave I small NOS
Med: Some named 1mn MWD, Langour webber, Fleeting warp scrambler
Low: Most expensive Tech I MFS, some damage control stuff




Looks a bit tight on the ol' cpu, doesn't it (As he would've needed a mapc to fit all of the above in)? Rolling Eyes

Cpu implant 4tw Wink

Skrypt
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.09.14 06:25:00 - [83]
 

2x Light Nuetron II
Light Electrion II
Small 'Knave' I Energy Drain

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor
'Langour' Drive Disruptor

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small Armor Repairer II
Micro Auxillary Power Core I

Not sure how this works compared to some of the other setups posted but it seems to find a fair ballance. I'll probably end up going just to straight gankage once I become more afluent with the Taranis.

Leon 026
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.09.14 06:30:00 - [84]
 

Interceptor solo pwn-mobiles are only apparent in videos. Afterall, frapsing your inty blowing up all the time, or frapsing yourself warping away to avoid getting blown up and then adding that into a movie makes it hardly exciting to watch ;)

Damien Crow
Finis Lumen
Posted - 2006.09.22 15:36:00 - [85]
 

*Bumped for more up-to-date setups*

I believe I use this setup...

HI
3x Neutron II (Antimatter)
1x Knave NOS

MID
1x AB II or MWD II (can't remember which, will check when I am home later)
1x 7.5km Scrambler
1x Web

LOW
1x MAPC
1x Mag Field Stab II
1x Small Armor Rep II

Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Merciless.
Posted - 2006.09.22 17:04:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Damien Crow
*Bumped for more up-to-date setups*

I believe I use this setup...

HI
3x Neutron II (Antimatter)
1x Knave NOS

MID
1x AB II or MWD II (can't remember which, will check when I am home later)
1x 7.5km Scrambler
1x Web

LOW
1x MAPC
1x Mag Field Stab II
1x Small Armor Rep II


must be the AB .. as with MWD you'll run for sure into PG problems Wink ... also depending on AWU skill-lvl

Marcus Alkhaar
Ready. Aim. Fire.
Posted - 2006.09.22 21:05:00 - [87]
 

Taranis setup:

3x 125mm II - Lead (13km optimal + 6km falloff)

1x 1MN Gistii MWD
1x Medium Shield extender II
1x 20km disruptor

2x MAPC
1x damage control


on paper (zomg did he say paper? KILL HIM!) this machine deals the same DPS of a crow have with Standard launcher II's with no damage mods Smile (I took tracking out of play)

got 1401 shield HP with good skills, 1600 shield HP when its in a gang.

zyto
Posted - 2006.09.22 23:45:00 - [88]
 

3xneutron ii w/ null
1xmwd ii 1xweb 1xscram
1xsar ii 1xmapc 1xdmg cntl
2xwarrior ii

Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.09.24 03:59:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Marcus Alkhaar
this machine deals the same DPS of a crow have with Standard launcher II's with no damage mods


You realize a crow with standard launchers has extemely **** dps? Not to mention that using gistii MWD's for a setup that cant repair itself and is extremely vulnerable to webs is quite silly as well.

I'll give it 4/10 for originality though.

Omniscient Fury
Posted - 2006.10.18 08:26:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: Omniscient Fury on 19/10/2006 10:42:52
O***ayyy. After messing around for a while in QuickFit and getting a substantially larger skill plan, this is what I've come up with - has 230 odd DPS on structure (but only Surgical Strike and Rapid Firing 3, as well as Interceptors 3 and Small Blaster Spec 4)and imo, most importantly, can still tackle. May drop the webber for a second scrammer.

Light Ion Blaster II w/ Void & Null
Light Ion Blaster II w/ Void & Null
Light Ion Blaster II w/ Void & Null
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain

Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters

Magnetic Field Stabiliser II
Magnetic Field Stabiliser II
Micro Auxillary Power Core

This fits with AWU3 and a 3% Turret CPU Implant according to QuickFit. I had to drop the MWDII to Catalyzed to get the Nos on, but it seems to fit right now.


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