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Destructive Influence
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:40:00 - [1]

Does TTI take responsability for their
members action or do you let your members
learn from your own misstakes ?

If TTI accept this and take Roark under their
wings of protection i wonder why we at VHI
has not yet heard from your CEO.

We have had votes in what to do with James
and how to take stand in this matter ,but
we cannot make any desitions without your CEO
talking with our - and maybe including Roark
and James .

9/10 VHI members has voted YES to giving
back the total sum of 100 mill isk , the rest
is up to James - we cant make him.

I want an end to this , but not only on TTIs
terms - one of your members did a misstake
and one of ours took advantage of it.

VHI has also been thinkin about paying back
TTI from own pocket , covering James little
But will TTI then take the responsability
towards Roark and letting him learn from
his misstake ?.

Sure . if the situation were reversed we would
like the isk back , but we would contact
your CEO directly and start talks...
Also we would offer you to keep up to 1/2 the
sum of what we would have lost.
Afterall getting to keep 50 mill is still
better then not getting anything back.

I dare TTIs CEO to contact us and start talks
if you are on Roarks side ,Otherwise let us
know if Roark is on his own in this matter.

Sincerely Dreez

James Hawkings
Armoured Assassins
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:46:00 - [2]

who is their ceo?

Critical Mass Enterprises
Curse Alliance
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:51:00 - [3]

I wouldnt pay them back, i think your daft to consider it.

you dont paid back for mistakes like that in RL business, and a lot of TTI senior staff are real business people AFAIK, they should know beter.

Nor do you get stuff back from CCP for silly mistakes you make, why should this be any different?

if my corp made the same mistake... i wouldnt ask for the cash back, it would be our own stupid fault. good luck to the person who benefited.

None of my business anyway... just my thoughts.

Lelia Tu'nar
Posted - 2003.08.21 23:59:00 - [4]

James shouldn't give anything back.

In a world where people think its ok to sell 40k Miner II's for 5mil. And where player pirates grief defenceless noobs for no reason, I say forget ethics.

People only seem to care about ethics when it suits them. The 100 MILLION isk is his now, so tough ****.

Merdekka Radaen
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
Posted - 2003.08.22 00:01:00 - [5]

TTI are impotent, their threats are meaningless. The money is yours.

FATAL Alliance
Posted - 2003.08.22 00:02:00 - [6]

Dont do what is good for TTI do what is good for your corp and whoever has the money. I would just keep it.

Ayn Rand
Posted - 2003.08.22 01:22:00 - [7]

I'm sure Ragnar will contact you in due time. He's a busy guy. Thanks.

Band of Brothers
Posted - 2003.08.22 01:45:00 - [8]

Good to see his alt can make a post but not him Cool

Lucas De'Thal
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2003.08.22 02:11:00 - [9]

it's pretty safe to say that you would find most people are saying keep the money. And I agree. TTI can defintely afford to write off the loss as they pull in over a billion isk per week.

plus, unless they send a pirate corp after you, TTI itself can't declare war on you (unless that bug has been fixed)

keep the money I say. I think an intergalactic war over this would be kind of cool by the way Twisted Evil

20th Legion
Posted - 2003.08.22 02:54:00 - [10]

Why no! Of course give the money back! That money was intended for TTI's monthly bubblegum purchase. Now they are all outa gum!

Interim Industries
Posted - 2003.08.22 03:12:00 - [11]

I hope you of VHI aren't falling for Roarks 800M minerals deal offer. That's a bribe coming out of your pocket!

20th Legion
Posted - 2003.08.22 03:33:00 - [12]

Come to think of, instead of reimbursing the money, you should try and get more from them for selling more trit in singles...

Republic University
Posted - 2003.08.22 04:19:00 - [13]

I'm sure Ragnar will contact you in due time. He's a busy guy. Thanks.

Obviously the money is not all that important then is it?

Keep the money.
No way in hell I'd return it now.

If they gang up on you and your corp come on back here and let all the people know. Eve needs something to spice it up and I'm sure this would be the ticket. Not only would quite a few corps jump in but a ton of independents would also, just for some fun.

TTI stands to lose a lot more then 100 million in a ****ing contest.

James Hawkings
Armoured Assassins
Posted - 2003.08.22 04:26:00 - [14]

yah know, a good war involving most of eve would spice up the game
the only problem is it can't take place in empire space because cops would probably get in the action

The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems
Posted - 2003.08.22 05:36:00 - [15]

We all live in the yellow submarine....


Lao Tzu
Hellenistic Capital
Posted - 2003.08.22 05:45:00 - [16]

Edited by: Lao Tzu on 22/08/2003 05:45:19
I don't think TTI will come after you, it wont make them any money to do so. In fact it'll cost them a whole load in lost time. Keep the

CCP Pann

C C P Alliance
Posted - 2003.08.22 05:45:00 - [17]

Moved from General Discussion

Joshua Calvert
Rule One
Posted - 2003.08.22 06:27:00 - [18]

I would give the money back but I'm an honest guy.

I think keeping the money is going to create some very interesting dilemma's.

JP Beauregard
Pilkington Communications
Posted - 2003.08.22 11:03:00 - [19]

Am I the only one to think that the worst thing to do after the 100 million went down the drain was to make a major issue of a minor accounting error?

Am I the only one to think that threatening violent retribution if the money wasn't returned was as cheap as it was foolish?

Am I the only one to think that most residents of this galaxy who never gave a damn about TTI have at last come to consider the company and its representatives utterly daft?

I think not...

Jael Markinsen
Posted - 2003.08.22 11:10:00 - [20]

"If they gang up on you and your corp come on back here and let all the people know. Eve needs something to spice it up and I'm sure this would be the ticket. Not only would quite a few corps jump in but a ton of independents would also, just for some fun."

James, pay attention to his first sentence and indeed let us all know.

"It's a fight, It's a fight, between a megacorps and a little guy, if the little guy don't win, we'll all jump in."

Calladen Nimitz
Todaki Innovations
Posted - 2003.08.22 11:48:00 - [21]

Edited by: Calladen Nimitz on 22/08/2003 11:54:00


Thank you for addressing this matter. If you have specific questions about TTI you can contact me at the address below. I'd like to make sure this matter is taken care of.

Ragnar runs a real life company (more then one actually) and doesn't have the opportunity to play alot. I'm not sure exactly what the status (or content) of your communications with our member Roark are.

If you can please email me the details of what your proposing I'll discuss it with Ragnar (we talk on phone frequently) and also immediately forward your email to his personal address. Looking at the comments by all these people not involved in this matter at all it's clear no purpose is served by posting anymore here.

Thank you,

Calladen Nimitz
Executive - TTI

Destructive Influence
Posted - 2003.08.22 12:16:00 - [22]

From here on there will be no mroe disskutions
between VHI and TTI on this site , i will
try and handle this matter more diskret.

As it should have been handled in the first time.

I will however Inform you all in how this
matter ends.


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