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BCBArclight
The Scoundrels
Posted - 2005.12.19 11:51:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: BCBArclight on 19/12/2005 11:53:48
Iím training up for a barge, atm I have an Osprey with 3 Miner II's onboard along with the attributes for a barge astrogeology lvl 3, mining lvl4 + osprey 20% bonus.

What I want to know will the small barge be less effective with only one strip Miner I onboard, else should I go straight for a med barge, and eventually a big barge.

*Damn sorry shouldn't look at more than one forum at a time, if a mod can move this to the ship thread please.

Derimas II
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
Posted - 2005.12.19 11:58:00 - [2]
 

Mate IMO if your into mining, or even just do it occasionally get into a Medium Barge its worth it.

BeerLover
Posted - 2005.12.19 12:45:00 - [3]
 

Train to med barge - it's not so long, but much effective

Jim Steele
Dead By Dawn
Posted - 2005.12.19 13:12:00 - [4]
 

Agreed, a med barge is better than a megathron with barge 4. May as well go for it.

Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Posted - 2005.12.19 15:41:00 - [5]
 

Well, just read the attributes - they are straight forward.

Cruiser Level 3, Mining Level 4, Astro geology 3, Mining Barge 1.

Osprey: 3*60*1.6*1.2*1.15 = 397.44 m3/min
Procurer: 1*540*1.2*1.15*1.03/3 = 255.85

That is why you never see a procurer used in the game. You'll want a battleship someday;

Retriever:
Osprey: 3*60*1.8*1.2*1.2 = 466.56 m3/min
Procurer: 2*540*1.2*1.2*1.09/3 = 565.06 m3/min

Drakus Felborne
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
Posted - 2005.12.19 21:07:00 - [6]
 

Have to agree, that's where I'm at, with Osprey and cruiser 3, miner 2's, astro 3, mining 4. My Miner 2's display as just over 132.4 ore units per minute. A strip miner has 180 ore units per minute + skill bonuses, which is about 260.8 per minute, for the one you can mount.

So already, an osprey out-mines the small barge with much less skill training with just 2 miner 2's, and has a weapon mount that can handle rat frigs, leaving 20 m3 for mining drones.


Riley Craven
Caldari
Raata Invicti
Reckoning.
Posted - 2005.12.20 01:18:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Riley Craven on 20/12/2005 01:18:30
Not to mention the fact that ospreys target faster, have more slots, and can be tanked better than any barge out there. Barges are the stupidest thing on the planet. Even if you go for a large barge, it was still be wiser to use an apoc instead. if i recal the apoc with good skills can do around 900 something ore per minute and the large barge around 1100-1200 ore. While it does better, you still run into the same issue, not enough slots, poor tank, poor targeting, poor shields and armor. Combat ships are the way to go. The only things barges are good for is ice... but who needs ice anyway... oh yeah and not to mention the fact that once you are done mining you can go out can kill people... cant say the same with a barge... apoc and osp ftw

BCBArclight
The Scoundrels
Posted - 2005.12.20 09:37:00 - [8]
 

Well there will be a 3-4 of us out at anyone time, one for protection, one hauling and hopefully 2 mining (with barges) so protection isnt a problem, not in 0.5-1.0 space. So I just need to maximise the effectivness of my ship for mining. Although the large barge will take a while to train for lvl5 barge and lvl5 astro.


 

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