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tajno
Posted - 2005.12.19 17:22:00 - [91]
 

i dont know if i am the only stupid player that desided to test eve and created a trail account 2 days before this big patch. i have lost alot of playtime and time to train my skills. i would love to get some extra free days so i can test this game for the 14 days and not just 10, but ofcuse i am only a trail user and i should be happy to try this awsome game for free.

Micklaine
Gallente
Blade of Laban
Zenith Affinity
Posted - 2005.12.19 17:22:00 - [92]
 

I am very appreciative of the new expansion. I think the new content is great and I love EVE. That said, EVE is nearly unplayable right now. I was on well ahead of peak time, with nearly 15k people online, in a quiet system (under 20 people) and I nearly lost my ship to lag. It was freezing up for a minute or two at a time, right in the middle of my missions. I wish CCP would face facts and take down EVE for a couple days while they sort things out. I'd even pay for the days, but right now things are just nasty. Those who don't have lag I guess are just lucky because I was nowhere near a hub system (10 jumps from ours, more to any other major hubs) and that's about the only advice I've seen in this thread. CCP, please shut down EVE until it's enjoyable to play again. I'm too tempted to play while it's up, but it's no fun when I actually get on. Confused

Kilostream
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2005.12.19 22:24:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Ukucia

Rollback won't fix a thing. They need the massive server load to cause these problems, and it can't be generated in their test environment.

A rollback would mean much more waiting as it would take much longer to fix the problems. Plus their first 2 or 3 fix attempts wouldn't address all the problems, leading to a longer period of instability.

You're better off finding the systems that aren't lagged to hell (there are plenty of them) and play there for a while.


Well, I don't wana speak for anyone else, but I'd have no probs with waiting longer and a rollback.

My position in space was somewhat dictated by a war I was in at the time - that war is now over, and I read some players are not having lag, so I may well do your suggestion of moving out of the busy areas for a while.

Retsudo Itto
Posted - 2005.12.19 22:45:00 - [94]
 

I personaly DON'T care about money back
I DON'T care about how long it takes ( hell have two or three days worth of down time if it means lag free and smooth running )
I dont care about new patch if its free or not nore do i care about most opinions of the masses (most don't care about mine which im sure some one will make some comment about)
All i want is to play Eve and CCP are working there ass's off trying to get it back on its feet. All we got to do is give em time, they may be considering aome form of appeasement but a few days money back or skill boostis worth nothing if all is going to hell in a hand basket . Wehn we have a nice easy running system again thats all i care about at the moment

divan
Black Legion Command
Posted - 2005.12.20 00:27:00 - [95]
 

3 days = 1.4, if you think that is much you should not play online games

---> zone.msn.com (some nice and free games)

gn

Johnny Disco
Gallente
British Legion
Posted - 2005.12.20 00:40:00 - [96]
 

Just wondering, but a free content upgrade is not really free when it costs you gametime.
The game as it stands is not playable at all in my experience.
If you bought something here in the UK and it was not fit for the purpose it was supplied for, you would be entitled to a refund, the same goes for a service.
Now i'm not saying I want a couple of days subscription back, it's just not worth the time it would take to pay out.
I just want to play the game.

Pwny McPwnerson
Posted - 2005.12.20 00:42:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Hanan Lazaar
Originally by: Pwny McPwnerson
Nothing. Read your EULA. They don't owe anyone anything.


Sure they don't owe us anything, as your sharply mind analysed from the EULA. But it would be a nice gesture to give us one or two weeks of free playing. Thats what every trial noob also gets for free.


You realize CCP is a business, right? They need money to operate just like any other business. If they gave everyone two weeks of free play, they would definitly be in the red.


Johnny Disco
Gallente
British Legion
Posted - 2005.12.20 00:45:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Pwny McPwnerson
Originally by: Hanan Lazaar
Originally by: Pwny McPwnerson
Nothing. Read your EULA. They don't owe anyone anything.


Sure they don't owe us anything, as your sharply mind analysed from the EULA. But it would be a nice gesture to give us one or two weeks of free playing. Thats what every trial noob also gets for free.


You realize CCP is a business, right? They need money to operate just like any other business. If they gave everyone two weeks of free play, they would definitly be in the red.




As a business shouldn't they provide what the customer is paying for?

after all, no customers = no business.

Talos Darkhart
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2005.12.20 00:45:00 - [99]
 

But in your opininon it is ok for them to charge us for 1 or 2 weeks when we cannot play ok. Rolling Eyes

Johnny Disco
Gallente
British Legion
Posted - 2005.12.20 00:49:00 - [100]
 

I don't think they should charge us for 1 day we can't play for.

If I rent you a car, then after a while say, oh although you've paid in advance for a month, it won't start, may keep stalling and will generally run rough for a few days would you be happy with that?

Ukucia
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2005.12.20 21:53:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Kilostream
Originally by: Ukucia

Rollback won't fix a thing. They need the massive server load to cause these problems, and it can't be generated in their test environment.

A rollback would mean much more waiting as it would take much longer to fix the problems. Plus their first 2 or 3 fix attempts wouldn't address all the problems, leading to a longer period of instability.

You're better off finding the systems that aren't lagged to hell (there are plenty of them) and play there for a while.


Well, I don't wana speak for anyone else, but I'd have no probs with waiting longer and a rollback.

My position in space was somewhat dictated by a war I was in at the time - that war is now over, and I read some players are not having lag, so I may well do your suggestion of moving out of the busy areas for a while.


It's not just waiting longer. (I wasn't as clear as I should have been).

It's waiting longer for another patch. Which will still have bugs. Rollback that, wait again for another patch, it comes up with bugs. And so on, and so on.

Rollback-then-patch would lead to several painful patches, instead of one painful patch.

Mad Scot
Amarr
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2005.12.21 11:29:00 - [102]
 

Yeam am not particulary worried about compensation just all thw ship losses due to lag/bugs that are happening atm. As long as we/I get those back ill be quite happy.

Vladt
Posted - 2005.12.21 12:09:00 - [103]
 

I really dont care about compensation if I would be able to play the game like I used to before the RMR patch

1. have a decend Production
2. fly around Nonni without waiting half an hour
3. 17.000 People are logged in and I dont notice
4. can do my lvl3 Misis still in a BC and make some money
5. Dont have the problems in getting blind by that new font


21.000 Players are to much for the current Hardware/Software Kombination
please kick out the trial accounts until you get the new Hardware, otherwise it will be a long painful awaiting , I wouldnt bet on the new Hardware in January.

6 Days after the Patch Release


Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2005.12.21 12:10:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Nee'kita Frist
Free expansions... none of this "Jump to lightspeed" crap, or the EQ's area expansion packs which you have to buy... Or buy this for to get this new uber stuff etc etc.

Nope, we get free expansions. There your compensated. STFU.

Anyway what important thing have you to go to do anyway apart from cause the thing your whining about lol. I love 0.0.


What she said!

Deacan Wildfire
LoRez Productions
Posted - 2005.12.21 12:14:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Johnny Disco
I don't think they should charge us for 1 day we can't play for.

If I rent you a car, then after a while say, oh although you've paid in advance for a month, it won't start, may keep stalling and will generally run rough for a few days would you be happy with that?


The difference is, when we can't play on EVE servers CCP are still working around the clock to fix the problems, y'know. They probably have to work more than the days when we can play. So it's pretty unfair to demand they work overtime like crazy and actually have to lose money for it, really.

Seriously guys, deal with it, it isn't much money on an individual level, and it's only 3 bloody days. If you coerce CCP into giving you free days, all it'll do is damage them and make their future service even more likely to be worse.

Rache
Solar Trade
Posted - 2005.12.21 12:25:00 - [106]
 

I do not understand this 'read the EULA' attitude. Of course CCP is legaly clear with not giving out any compensation - no doubt about it. But this isn't about law, it's about customer satisfaction. IMHO all these that feel unsatisfied by the fact they had 3 lousy days of play have full rights to say that to CCP. That's the players/customer feedback.

A lot of MMORPG offers compensation in form of additional gameplay time even if they have the same kind of EULA as CCP have. This is a way of say 'we care about our customers'.

Please treat it as customer feedback and don't try to be a CCP lawyer. I see no point in this 'don't say a bad word on CCP' attitude. I don't think they will feel offended if someone share his feelings about the current situation.

Gexo Vyr
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2005.12.21 12:29:00 - [107]
 

I don t care about money back,
WE only need information, more information..
i want to know soon if i have to close my 2 accounts or if i keep them
(i personnaly can t play since RMR launch, it s not the lag, it s the illisible ugly new font who break the game)


Dakath
Posted - 2005.12.21 12:37:00 - [108]
 

CCP should stop billing for the game until it is playable again.

Vladimir Ilych
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2005.12.21 12:56:00 - [109]
 

some posters have stated that they will never get to fly the ships in the expansion. Sorry but if you can't get the ISK together to buy a tech II BC for example (my new aim) you are doing something wrong. And yes people do need to relax over this (few days of dodgy play vs free content). Was on last night and the game worked perfectly. CCP deserve credit for what they achieve,

Summersnow
Posted - 2005.12.21 13:46:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Dakath
CCP should stop billing for the game until it is playable again.



Some people aparently can play the game...

so, who do you bill and who don't you bill?

I suspect ccp will take the attitude that as long as you can log on within a reasonable amount of time to set a skill in training you are "playing the game"


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