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StealthNet
Gallente
Posted - 2003.08.16 11:29:00 - [61]
 

I'm finally starting to get it: people want to use 7 425mm rails in your megathrons, at least 4 vortexes and hit from close range Rolling Eyes

There is a misconception that drives me crazy. A small weapon is NOT labeled FRIGATE weapon. A medium weapon is NOT labeled CRUISER weapon. A large weapon is NOT labeled battleship weapon. When I was in a cruiser, I used a small scout for quite some time, to get small frigs that got closer. 425mm rails tracking and dmg suck ? Look at range. Fit one or two 425mm with range ammo and you are now able to hit really far.

A good setup is a MIX of these resources. I'm pretty sure they need A BIT of balancing (regarding the 425mms) and a LOT of balancing (regarding the dual rails). But we are talking about balancing, not making weapons MORE uber than they are already.

I am one of the players that want longer battles. 1x1 BS should be a 2 minute fighting AT LEAST, not a 30 second event.

And thats so easy to accomplish, without complex tweaks. Just make the default resistances of battleships higher, and shields starting at 10k hp (if you are afraid of making any unbalances, increase the stats by a PERCENT rather than introducing random numbers. Like: increase all resistances 20%, and all shields 100%).

btw, I think they should increase shield, armor and hull HP of ALL ships.


SkyLeach
Critical Mass Enterprises
Posted - 2003.08.16 11:39:00 - [62]
 

Quote:
425mm rails tracking and dmg suck ? Look at range. Fit one or two 425mm with range ammo and you are now able to hit really far.



in theory, now go try it. hitting things for 60 damage at 30Km is a joke. (they miss a lot too) i took the 425mm rails straight back off and put tachyons back on.

i would rather use STANDARD 250mm rails and do much much more damage at 30km with those.

i have been pointing out this situation with battleship guns before people had battleship in retail, there has been plenty of time to sort it out but no.. hasnt been touched.

Right now the tachyons are the only REAL battleship gun. Do they need nerfing? NO! they actually need buffing if you ask me. But they are still the best BB gun as it is now, that or 250mm Gauss rails.

StealthNet
Gallente
Posted - 2003.08.16 11:54:00 - [63]
 

What is your large hyb lvl ?

BSOD
Gallente
Calista Industries
Posted - 2003.08.16 15:38:00 - [64]
 

Quote:
posting again because im simply baffeled at how daft some of you people are.

jesus.

im going to try and make this as simple as i possibly can.

compare a 250mm rail I to a battleship size gun, DUAL 250mm rail I.

JESUS THE NAME ITSELF IMPLIES DOUBLE THE POWER, AND ITS A ***** BB RAILGUN.

sigh.

While I disagree on the 425 vs. 250 issue, I do agree with you that the d250 is crap compared to the single 250, and the D150 is worthless.

I don't know about the D250 vs. single 250, but the dual 150mm rail is worse in all respects other than cap usage than the single 150mm rail except for cap usage. It does more damage (Over 2.5x the damage mod of the D150, while the ammo of the D150 only is 2x the base dmg) It has more range (1 km more optimal, 1 km less falloff, so overall it's better). It has 4x the tracking rate. And it takes a fraction of the CPU and power of the D150.

Bellator Militaris
Caldari
Freelancers Coalition
Joined Brotherhood
Posted - 2007.12.02 13:21:00 - [65]
 

I use 425mm Rail Guns and they hit at 92km out. Distance+Skill+Damage=Safety. Very Happy

Matrix Aran
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.02 13:25:00 - [66]
 

Who's been keeping this thread on life support?

Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2007.12.02 13:26:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Bellator Militaris
I use 425mm Rail Guns and they hit at 92km out. Distance+Skill+Damage=Safety. Very Happy

N.O.O.B Necro.

Sleepkevert
Amarr
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.12.02 13:37:00 - [68]
 

...

Can we say necro?

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.12.02 13:53:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Bellator Militaris
I use 425mm Rail Guns and they hit at 92km out. Distance+Skill+Damage=Safety. Very Happy


+forumban

Frances's Flittchen
Posted - 2007.12.02 14:00:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Bellator Militaris
I use 425mm Rail Guns and they hit at 92km out. Distance+Skill+Damage=Safety. Very Happy


+forumban


i second this -.-

Chruker
Posted - 2007.12.02 14:09:00 - [71]
 

Edited by: Chruker on 02/12/2007 14:10:47
ffs I was halfway down the page before I noticed I was reading the deadsea scrolls

When is this forum gonna get some warning about reviving old threads? And while they are at it, and e-mail notification about new replies in threads you are watching.

Dominious
Posted - 2007.12.02 14:51:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Chruker
ffs I was halfway down the page before I noticed I was reading the deadsea scrolls


Same here Laughing.


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