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Ihar Enda
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.11.23 15:40:00 - [1081]
 

I took the liberty of posting a Deimos thread in the Kali/Revelations forums. Maybe it'll get noticed there. Feel free to bump. Smile

slothe
Caldari
Jian Products Engineering Group
Atlas.
Posted - 2006.11.23 15:51:00 - [1082]
 

i would never shamelesly bump a thread. shame on you for even suggesting it.

Ihar Enda
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.11.23 16:00:00 - [1083]
 

Originally by: slothe
i would never shamelesly bump a thread. shame on you for even suggesting it.


Thanks for bumping this thread though. Laughing

Jenstruant Fogg
Posted - 2006.11.23 16:07:00 - [1084]
 

Originally by: Ihar Enda
Originally by: slothe
i would never shamelesly bump a thread. shame on you for even suggesting it.


Thanks for bumping this thread though. Laughing


Someone lacks sarcasm/ironical wit Smile

Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
Posted - 2006.11.23 18:04:00 - [1085]
 

In 1 week, this thread will have been going for a year!

Breed Love
DOUBLE IDENTITY
Posted - 2006.11.23 18:08:00 - [1086]
 

Originally by: Gariuys
In 1 week, this thread will have been going for a year!


!!

Ihar Enda
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.11.23 21:29:00 - [1087]
 

Originally by: Gariuys
In 1 week, this thread will have been going for a year!


Almost the same time Kali hits. A good opportunity to end this nonsense and fix the ship? Tux?

Otherwise I can see this thread running for another year, or at least until another major expansion. Rolling Eyes

Rex Wolfen
Tri Optimum
Ev0ke
Posted - 2006.11.23 21:39:00 - [1088]
 

bump, signed and whatnot.....Shocked

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2006.11.23 22:56:00 - [1089]
 

Dash should change the topic to "Make her worthwhile to fly"Rolling Eyes

I'm so anxiously waiting for KALI... NOT!!!

Ihar Enda
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.11.24 22:09:00 - [1090]
 

Originally by: Kunming
Dash should change the topic to "Make her worthwhile to fly"Rolling Eyes

I'm so anxiously waiting for KALI... NOT!!!



I'm still waiting for Kali. Just need to find other ships to fly in if the Deimos isn't fixed. Sad

FireWynd
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.11.26 17:05:00 - [1091]
 

Well heres some good news for Deimos straight from the patch notes:

Deimos powergrid and cpu increased

About time!

Lilani Kuzma
Gallente
Black Skull Legion
Posted - 2006.11.26 18:09:00 - [1092]
 

Originally by: FireWynd
Well heres some good news for Deimos straight from the patch notes:

Deimos powergrid and cpu increased

About time!



don`t wory :D:DDD it`s still gonna suck in agility... and **** like that including max speed! :DDD soo have fun..... 1600 mm platyed ishtar here i come :D

Ihar Enda
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.11.26 18:19:00 - [1093]
 

Originally by: FireWynd
Well heres some good news for Deimos straight from the patch notes:

Deimos powergrid and cpu increased

About time!



This was announced about a month ago. It doesn't change anything. Deimos still needs more grid, better speed and agility, and possibly a 4th mid slot instead of high.

Alex SOKOLOFF
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.11.26 19:51:00 - [1094]
 

Maybe we get decent HAC in a year Very Happy
Needs MORE grid (950 isnt enough) more speed, better agility, -1 high slot and +1 med slot for cap booster.
Why Vagabond has same grid as Deimos and more CPU, if its weapons use so few CPU and PG? I can't get it.

haniblecter
Posted - 2006.11.26 20:32:00 - [1095]
 

YOU GOT YOUR DAMN FIX. LET THIS THREAD DIE YOU GALLENTE FAN BOIS!

Ihar Enda
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.11.26 21:37:00 - [1096]
 

Originally by: haniblecter
YOU GOT YOUR DAMN FIX. LET THIS THREAD DIE YOU GALLENTE FAN BOIS!


No! Laughing

Bazman
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2006.11.26 21:42:00 - [1097]
 

Btw, the grid changes is enough, you can get a workable Neutron gank setup on it now. There is just the slight problem of Kali being a gigantic nerf to DPS reliant ships :P

Wrecking for 1090 damage with a med gun = yum. Shame thats only about 2% of the HP of the new ships you'd be shooting at with this ship :P

Kaynard Stormwalker
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.11.27 02:20:00 - [1098]
 

Originally by: haniblecter
YOU GOT YOUR DAMN FIX. LET THIS THREAD DIE YOU GALLENTE FAN BOIS!


If only that was true. Rolling Eyes
I dont fly "deimoses" myself (maybe if they were good ?), but I can see they need something more.
The LITTLE grid "fix" wont do much I think.

slothe
Caldari
Jian Products Engineering Group
Atlas.
Posted - 2006.11.27 04:56:00 - [1099]
 

christ at this late stage id settle for an agility boost but it still needs a touch more pg :/

Kay Han
Caldari
Divine Retribution
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2006.11.27 10:51:00 - [1100]
 

Edited by: Kay Han on 27/11/2006 10:51:42
The deimos needs imo:

- a 'little bit' more agility (speed in general)
- a little bit more PG

Maybe another slotlayout (6/4/5)

ugh

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2006.11.28 00:02:00 - [1101]
 

Originally by: Kay Han
Edited by: Kay Han on 27/11/2006 10:51:42
The deimos needs imo:

- a 'little bit' more agility (speed in general)
- a little bit more PG

Maybe another slotlayout (6/4/5)

ugh


Well yeah it should at least be as fast as the thorax.. at least!!

Grid is desperately needed, the ship does 0 DPS until in range which is like melee range so to say, it needs a big HP buffer to make the trip and high enough DPS to justify the trouble of going into "melee range"!

Damis Zohar
Darkstorm Command
The Nephilim.
Posted - 2006.12.01 08:16:00 - [1102]
 

i think the only course of action is for all Deimos pilots to petition ccp for a full refund of all Deimos purchases.
But seriuosly come on ccp fix it please surely it cant be that hard to do? Just make it useable!!

Alpha Prime
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.01.08 17:09:00 - [1103]
 


After spending a few hours in SISI, testing Diemos and talking
with alot of ppl that uses it, or knows about it. It seems that
everyone is of the same opinion, including the BHs.
The Diemos needs more speed, and even the BHs cant explain why
CCP / TUX wont increase the speed or lower the mass of this ship.
Both ships are suppose to be closerange ships, but the vaga is
vastly superior beeing able to chose dmg-types, no cap for guns,
better tank and finally, insane speed & agility.

Giving Diemos more PG or CPU is just the tip of the iceberg
of what needs to be done.

Tisanta
Amarr
Stargazer Exploration Company
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2007.01.08 17:57:00 - [1104]
 

Originally by: Alpha Prime

After spending a few hours in SISI, testing Diemos and talking
with alot of ppl that uses it, or knows about it. It seems that
everyone is of the same opinion, including the BHs.
The Diemos needs more speed, and even the BHs cant explain why
CCP / TUX wont increase the speed or lower the mass of this ship.
Both ships are suppose to be closerange ships, but the vaga is
vastly superior beeing able to chose dmg-types, no cap for guns,
better tank and finally, insane speed & agility.

Giving Diemos more PG or CPU is just the tip of the iceberg
of what needs to be done.



its because tux is a caldari ****er :D

Shi Mun
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2007.01.08 18:17:00 - [1105]
 

I believe either one of two things needs to be done to the deimos, it either needs to be made to be able to tank or gank, atm you can really only make it into an effective gank. The other thing is to give it more speed and/or agility.

Lucus Ranger
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.01.09 11:16:00 - [1106]
 

Edging the Deimos a bit towards the Vaga in speed and agility wise would be nice, but not overly so, since the Vaga is meant for hit annd run... Deimos more do or die..

* Perhaps give it 5 heavy drones for extra ganking damage and/or make 6th slot another turret hardpoint?

* As I've stated before maybe making that 6th slot a med slot so a injector can be used..

* Finally maybe give it more speed and agility..

Tuxford.. save my Deimos please!.. It's still sad old birdy Mad

Skrypt
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.01.27 05:12:00 - [1107]
 

It only needs more speed, imo.

Kaynard Stormwalker
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.01.28 01:26:00 - [1108]
 

This thread shows the beauty of CCP...lots of people from the community agree on something and yet they dont change it (to the extent the community thinks it need changing anyway)
While on other MMO's people whine all the time and the devs keep downgrading everything, thus making the game worse while everyone does not realize it. *cough* WoW *cough*

Having said that, I think *this one special subject with cream on top* needs some attention. =\

Ihar Enda
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.01.28 11:40:00 - [1109]
 

Originally by: Lucus Ranger
Edging the Deimos a bit towards the Vaga in speed and agility wise would be nice, but not overly so, since the Vaga is meant for hit annd run... Deimos more do or die..

* Perhaps give it 5 heavy drones for extra ganking damage and/or make 6th slot another turret hardpoint?

* As I've stated before maybe making that 6th slot a med slot so a injector can be used..

* Finally maybe give it more speed and agility..

Tuxford.. save my Deimos please!.. It's still sad old birdy Mad


Give it a flight of heavy drones and everyone will scream "overpowered", and there is no point in giving it another turret slot as it barely has the pg to fit a decent setup right now. Not very good ideas tbh...

But I agree that Deimos would greatly benefit from an extra mid slot, instead of a high slot. And everyone knows it needs more speed/agility to be a good close range ship, but Tux still doesn't do it.

And on top of that I'd still give Deimos a bit more pg, the extra pg from the recent "boost" just isn't enough.

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2007.01.28 12:07:00 - [1110]
 

Edited by: Kunming on 28/01/2007 12:03:48
This thread is 1 year and 1 month old!ShockedMad

Even stealth bombers are getting a fix and not many ppl even fly them.


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